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TABS 11/06/2008 04:22 AM Report
Dear Jaques: I have given this considerable thought, as I think you deserve the respect of the best answer I can give. Having a father leave a child at a very young age, having a mother remarry , going to live in a foreign country and then being foisted off on the Grand parents is too big of an elephant in the room not to be of major consequence in any persons life. It effects everything, it echos though a persons life. The question is how can it not affect a person in a major way? Those are the building block events on the stage of a persons life.
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Also you should watch the latest (11/5/08) John Meacham interview with Mr Rose. I have incessantly repeated my assertions for 2 reasons, first is that Mr Rose keeps asking, "Who is this guy?" and one wants to give him an answer. Second, to keep redefining my model to become more accurate.
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Further you have alluded several times to the fact that I am projecitng, let me assure you I can very well differentiate myself from others.
mike 11/06/2008 12:04 AM Report
Why, on this preview to the election show, did you not have a single person interview with a mccain backer? I tell everyone check out charlie rose, the best in-depth show on tv. for even ness and balance before the nation was going to cast their vote, it would have been nice to see a mccain supporter to get that point of view.
Jacques Lacan and Sigmund Freud 11/05/2008 09:32 PM Report
Ditto Chris. Come on TABS. Enough of that projection on abandonment ("it takes one to recognize one"). You can't generalize similar consequences of feeling abandonment from one loosely defined causal situation. What may be true for an individual may be way off the mark for another. How do you know that Obama felt abandonment? Perhaps the care he got from his grandma was more than enough to feel comforted, maybe even more than having two parents, which, by the way, is no proof of anything. In life you have gazillions of mental/psy stimuli everyday that can AFFECT your behavior, or shape your values. It's impossible to assign one cause to one consequence like that. If this were that simple, human psychology would be a kids' game. Your repeated and incessantly posted explanations about what shapes and motivates Obama can't be taken seriously. Perhaps Obama did some reading, or looked around his neighborhood, or whatever, and concluded that helping other people is the thing to do. Period.
TABS 11/05/2008 01:24 AM Report
Ohhh Lord, I wait for Ophra to call each day until three.
Chris 11/04/2008 10:32 PM Report
TABS:
Your psychoanalysis of Obama was painfully incomplete and also totally unconvincing. The guy's personal history is obviously important to him, but there is not some deep subconscious desire or tendency based on his familial relationships. That's like saying Bush went into Iraq solely for the subconscious reason of doing what his father could not. You can't prove it either way, and even if it did have an effect, situational influences likely had more of an effect.
Please save the psychoanalysis for daytime TV.
irish 11/04/2008 06:52 PM Report
it is all in the words used to describe things - the comments re how McCain va Obama handled the economic crisis could easily be "engaged" versus "dispassionate" or"reserved" and I think one could make a good argument that these adjectives are as accurate as the ones used. But, of course, the adjectives used by the media painted how people saw each man. One can only be grateful that the media decided to be prejudicial in favor of the Democrat this time around - probably because they made such a dead ugly choice in 2004. But this power makes me very uncomfortable.
TABS 11/04/2008 02:17 PM Report
This was not very satisfying fare, it resembled 5 blind mice trying to connect the dots in order to find the switch of illumination. In the end they are no closer to the light switch then when they started.
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It is no great mystery as to what makes Obama tick. In all actuality he is very easy to anticipate. Think about it. His father left and his mother foisted little Barry off on the Grandparents to raise. That was abandonment and out of that pain, loss and confusion little Barry emerged as Barrack after trekking to Africa to find his "old man." However little Barry never transcended the pain of his upbringing, to which he projects empathy on the disaffected as he knows what it feels like, that is why he "clings" so one sidedly to a political ideology (that is how he stays connected to his own pain). Further Barrack avoids the pain (pushes it away) of his emotional abandonment by turning his emotional switch off and staying in his intellect. That is why people describe him as being "serene," "detached," "calm" and "in the zone." However by staying with his intellect and not integrating his emotions it makes it much more difficult for him to speak extemporaneously. It also might make him absent minded. The heavy use of cigarettes an avoidance mechanism for his emotions which would keep popping up and causing anxiety or nervousness.
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What does staying in ones intellect bring you. It makes one a very calculating individual, who is continiousily assessing the situation. It also tends to make one very controling and possibly very ruthless in the attainment of ones goals.
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There is an old saying it takes one to recognize one. The difference being the intergration of emotion.
Neil MacCallister 11/04/2008 03:57 AM Report
Charlie Cook just called Sen. Obama "serene"! And all speakers are continuing to go on, ..as the show has for weeks about Mr. Obama's "equanimity". Which is odd, ..since he was seen at 2 of his 3 debates getting visibly flustered at being told his speaking turn had ended, ..I believe Jim Lehrer was brought to actual anger himself, at the need to tell Sen. Obama to "be quiet and sit down!" At the last debate, the same frustrated behavior was seen again, where he was told he was "not to continue talking", and to yield the floor. Millions of people saw those instances, ..why not all these Obama media supporters? Is it his 6 to 1 campaign expenditures that has gathered him these faulty memories? I wonder if his foreign debate opponents will be so kind?
hrc 11/04/2008 01:14 AM Report
That was interesting. About mid-way through Charlie posed a query:, what was the significance of speech making in the overall campaign. Quite frankly, one would hope that would be a major factor. I thought it was the most distinguishing certainly. Effective, open and constructive dialogue is the next logical attribute. I myself have never been so keen to want to vote ignorance out of office, nor more excited with a chance to do so. Charlie Cook brought some good humor to the table.
RE Mant 11/04/2008 12:07 AM Report
If Obama is elected it will complete the cycle that began in 1980, with the downfall of the Democratic party hegemony that had begun in 1960. The excesses of the one mirrored the excesses of the other. In that time real estate rose about 25x and white collar salaries about 5x, but the trade deficit went out of control, the US became a debtor nation, which has left more people working more hours for less real money, and the savings rate has nearly disappeared, along with many ppl's pensions. The only bright spots, particularly home ownership and stocks, are in reality an indication of stagflation, which ought to be apparent now to any rational individual. But both campaigns have implied that the new admin will relfate the economy, cut taxes and everything will be hunky-dory; that it was all the other guys' fault. However, it has taken nearly 50 yrs of completely irresponsible monetary and fiscal policy, and nearly continuous war - Vietnam, Reagan's Cold War, the first and second Gulf Wars - to cause the problem, and it is going to take a long time, and a lot of work, to turn it around, unless we are once again bailed-out by the world's poorest. In retrospect it seems Obama intended to go into politics from the start, but thinking that the only way to do that would be to develop roots in the Afro-American community, he actually started off in the wrong direction, because if he wins it will be not because of the black vote, but the bo-bo vote. If you look at the so-called battleground states most began moving toward the new economy several decades ago and/or have seen a large migration of such people: Nevada, Colorado, South Dakota, Montana, Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, Florida. Most of these ppl prospered when most of the country did not, and I think there is a hint of hypocrisy here. And I am not sure that it would make much of a difference for the majority of poor ppl. Another irony is that the candidate of election reform found himself more in the control of big money because of it, than the other candidate, who didn't, proving in the process that campaign finance reform is less of a reform than was supposed. The irony of the Couric-Palin interview was that it was clearly a case of the pot calling the kettle black, so I am not willing to necessarily label her a bad choice, though I think she has no future at all in the GOP. She was tho' also a sop to a major part of the party. I would not put political reform in a better position than the economic. Or perhaps if one succeeds the other will, but not otherwise. Of Obama's personality, he is rather stoic, if not narcissistic. His demeanor strikes me in particular as having been formed in the moot court room, but I think that lawyers do not make either the best executives, or problem-solvers. In any case Charlie is clearly charisma-crazy, and a lot like Clinton. How many of the other bo-bos fall into that category would make interesting research. Last, Mitch McConnell and Elizabeth Dole strike me as just having been recognized for the ding-a-lings they are.
sock puppet 11/03/2008 05:21 PM Report
A repost - more apropos here. Inquiring minds aught to know: Princeton hacks Diebold voting machines within minutes. The software deletes itself after recording pirated bogus counts. Totally nontraceable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM
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Published on Thursday, August 28, 2003 by the Cleveland Plain Dealer Voting Machine Controversy by Julie Carr Smyth COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
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There was an innocent(?) naive time that I would have declared no one would sink to that level. Now Karl Roves cum crap and the Republicans I have no faith that my Diebold machine vote for Nader really went to him. An admitted throw-away vote, but the potential loss of principle is anathema. It should be mine to deal with, not someone to steal. We're getting slimier and slimier as a nation. Ask Citigroup, ask the predators, the subprimers, the jingoists, the M-I land miners, the collateral damage approvers, the scumbags, the puppykickers, the . . . . . . OH BTW HAPPY VOTING!!