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Dave Mathieson  10/11/2008 12:16 AM Report

Bush 41 should have gone to Baghdad back in 1991.

Bush 43 had to clean up his dads mistake.

Flatiron  09/21/2008 10:45 AM Report

Woodward said both candidates would need training in how to be Commander in Chief. Just having been in the service is not enough, Linda. McCain didn't earn anything. We need to think who can learn the best? Who listens, who has character and temperament? I worry about putting a very old fighter pilot in that role. I think this serious disaster of a foreign policy and wars and takes someone who is young, smart and calm to figure out what can still be salvaged. The energy and brainpower required will be enormous. The situation keeps getting worse as Pakistan crumbles (Bush can still do a lot more damage in five months!)

Chris Baker  09/21/2008 12:44 AM Report

Woodward suggested both presidential campaigns need to relate their campaigns more to what the president actually does. How would they be Commander in Chief, how would they deal with problems in the economy? Also how will they chose their Secretary of Defense, National Security Advisor, or Treasury Secretary?

Woodward also said the next president needs to establish a better relationship of trust with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as earlier in the war Bush told them not to bring bad news to him. Bush also publicly distorted a military assessment that we were losing in Iraq into "not losing".

Woodward said the four negative "surprises" which intelligence didn't predict were: no WMD's, the rise of the Sunni/Ba'athist insurgency, the emergence of a home-grown al-Qaeda where none existed before, and Sunni-Shiite violence. Woodward said military commanders were very worried about a 5th negative "surprise", however that hardly seems a justification for keeping that many troops in Iraq.

Marilyn  09/20/2008 01:51 PM Report

Sock Puppet, kudos to you. I've sent in suggestion to Charlie Rose to cover topics of food, water, Monsanto, Codex. Anyone out there can watch The Future of Food, Nutricide, Earthlings, and soon to come Flow, which like Earthlings is winning awards. Watch the trailer of Flow at www.flowthefilm.com. Any help in encouraging Charlie to focus on these topics would be appreciated and rewarding, I'm sure. Don't we live in "interesting times"!

sock puppet  09/20/2008 01:37 AM Report

Linda wrote, "If John McCain wants to be President, I say he earned the privilege." I agree. We shouldn't have a Chief that hasn't had first hand experience at killing. Bush got his as governor as the Texecutioner 155 or so times. McCains is more indeterminate but doubtless considerable. After all he went on 23 bombing runs and was shot down by groundfire while bombing a civilian power plant. (Drum roll please.) How many were napalm runs. The image of the naked little girl running and screaming crashes my neurons. Bravado, bluster and bombast (a la aint I a hero convention speech), coupled with hubris, arrogance and zero introspection a la W. Now that's a COMMANDER for you. OOOOORAHH!!!

sock puppet  09/20/2008 01:33 AM Report

Woodward said Bush claimed his commanders were'nt fighting and that he had to request body counts. He has body counts from Texas as well as Iraq. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ Published on Saturday, June 17, 2000 in the New York Times Texas Executions: GW Bush Has Defined Himself, Unforgettably, As Shallow And Callous by Anthony Lewis BOSTON-There have been questions all along about the depth and seriousness of George W. Bush. They have been brought into sharp focus now by a surprising issue: the way the death penalty is administered in Texas. In his comments on that subject Governor Bush has defined himself, unforgettably, as shallow and callous. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ In his five years as governor of Texas, the state has executed 131 prisoners -- far more than any other state. Mr. Bush has lately granted a stay of execution for the first time, for a DNA test. ---------------------- In answer to questions about that record, Governor Bush has repeatedly said that he has no qualms. "I'm confident," he said last February, "that every person that has been put to death in Texas under my watch has been guilty of the crime charged, and has had full access to the courts." ------------------------ That defense of the record ignores many notorious examples of unfairness in Texas death penalty cases. Lawyers have been under the influence of cocaine during the trial, or been drunk or asleep. One court dismissed a complaint about a lawyer who slept through a trial with the comment that courts are not "obligated to either constantly monitor trial counsel's wakefulness or endeavor to wake counsel should he fall asleep." ------------------------------------ This past week The Chicago Tribune published a compelling report on an investigation of all 131 death cases in Governor Bush's time. It made chilling reading. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ Now a sicko, whining, thumb-sucking Democrat might make some unfounded outrageous conclusion that W 'GOT-OFF' on body counts. Further accuse that wet dreams occurred when visiting certain VA venues. And that PC keeps him from visiting GITMO.--------------------- My response: he's a good God-fearing Christian and merely doing the Lord's work as He has been directed - first hand.

Linda Hawthorne  09/20/2008 01:12 AM Report

Ditto the comment by Spero Saridakis, 9/17 02.49 PM, I have been listening to "How to Talk to Anyone, Anytime, Anywhere," The Secrets of Good Communication by Larry King. (I was always good at segways.)

In regard to Bob Woodward, my first off the top thought was, 'I see now why Military Dictatorships succeed."

Senator McCain served our country above and beyond the call of duty. That is the special thing about our military; they all serve above and beyond the call of duty. That is why we have the best military force in the World. The truth is that our Military needs a Commander in Chief on January 20th. Do I place my trust that he will a compassionate Commander, you bet your lucky coin this is the truth.

If John McCain wants to be President, I say he earned the privilege. And this is not a partisan statement.

We cannot ignore the veterans of our wars. This veteran is telling us that we have some very complex military involvements in the world. We need someone that is wise in the military. Good try Obama, Hail fellow, well met!" Don’t give up your day job.

Want more of me?

sock puppet  09/19/2008 11:36 PM Report

Populating current conversations with this comment at risk of irritating some, which for those (types) so inclined my profit will compound. This is another (wildly) vivid case for regulation. Even Kosher meat processing is dishonored. Religions don't temper our baser instincts - from carnage to egregious greed. Corporate greed via their lobbying pimps and Congressional venal whores promote the human debasement depicted in the video cited below. Corporate greed to maximize profits dehumanize employees (they of necessity have to overcompensate with an anger at their dumb victims) abuse, torture the dumbest yet the most innocent amongst us. Other earthlings. All slaughter houses need regulating and oversight - particularly corporate ones. They mock Kosher proceedings, but most of all they mock and dishonor common decency. Please pass it on. Why hell if we would do this to dumb animals we might even justify torture of humans, err I mean water-boarding err sensory deprivation err . . . . I repeat, please pass it on. A kernel of humanity towards the humbler (but nobler?) among us might help transfer similar sentiments to ourselves. (A variation of Pogo's revelation.) The link: (it ain't pretty - largely because our values are refracting (magnified) right back at us.) Thanks for your time. N.B.: It's important! _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1282796533661048967&hl=en _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ Attribution and kudos to "Marilyn!"

Enceef  09/19/2008 04:36 PM Report

It seems that within the body of Bush the man is a little boy who is incapable of understanding or appreciating the consequences of his actions or inaction. Is he to blame or the powers who installed him there who systematically fooled the American public into putting into office a man who, by most account, is incapable of leading. How sad and tragic for the Republic and for the thousands that gave their lives for a misguided cause.

Elizabeth J Moore  09/19/2008 12:07 PM Report

The President asked us to shop! What do you mean he didn't ask us to sacrifice. So we all went shopping but we neglected to pay our credit card bills. So now we have a bank crisis. And it's a big sacrifice.

Alvin D Hofer  09/18/2008 10:56 PM Report

Asking the American people to make sacrifices, as Woodward suggests, seems a bit late. I have already sacrificed about a third of the purchasing power of my assets since the US foolishly invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Unlike the President's friends and reporters who sell books about the war, I have grown poorer not more wealthy. I must worry about my future on my fixed income. I can no longer travel to foreign countries. My community cannot afford to provide the services it used to. Many of my neighbors are unemployed and do not have the government safety net that citizens of other western countries have. Make sacrifices? I have already sacrificed enough. End the wars! End the American military projections around the world. Let reporters like Woodward go back to covering fires and baseball games. Let them make the sacrifices!

bayravin  09/18/2008 09:46 PM Report

Some of our right winged friends still refuse to believe the facts, and still want to elect Bush III. Why isn't the main media asking for more interviews and press conferences from our Presidential candidates?

Marilyn  09/18/2008 07:11 PM Report

Sock puppet, I know how you feel, and likewise have been a veggie since. Go to snagfilms.com and see "The Future of Food", and story of Monsanto. There is a worldwide groundswell of humanity that strives to fight this horror, and it takes one-to-one to change things, maybe. It's all we can do, and I just wonder why why why everyday, it got like this. And thanks for putting link to video out there. Have been possessed with the need to share the horror,

sock puppet  09/18/2008 06:50 PM Report

Marilyn - thanks (I think). As an animal lover it has me traumatized. Probably be a veggy till it wears off. Liked the quote, "As long as there's slaughterhouses, there will be wars." ---- Leo Tolstoy. The Earthling video aint pretty. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1282796533661048967&hl=en

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Validates my opinion that we are earning - indeed striving - to warrant our extinction. I'm bettin we tried to emulate the slaughter houses at GITMO, Abu ghreib, black sites everywhere. "What goes around comes around!," another q. We're sick!!!!

Marilyn  09/18/2008 04:00 PM Report

Sock puppit, have you seen documentary "Earthlings"? Just curious. It's far more upsetting than the 'readjustment' of wealth we are witnessing here. Not that upsetting things are so great all the time.

sock puppet  09/18/2008 03:51 PM Report

To rationalize the lust for body counts by the fact that it's not unique is to do the same for our well earned ultimate extinction. Respect for life is imperative if it is to continue - yea even if it is encased in nonwhite skin, and yea (again) even if it resides over oil misplaced (obviously) by God. The entitlement to lives, oil hegemony and most of all arrogance befits - by extension - the egregious greed exemplified in the financial crises. Exploitation of human frailty is our mission in life, whether by gun or pen. A Republican sanctified version of survival-of-the-fittest. A winnowing of liberal whiners cry-babying for regulations. And a few nonwhite lives to keep us in suv's is not even an inconvenience as the M-I complex readily adapts to compensate and then some. Just the way God has equipped us - his chosen (just ask Him).

Ranjit Mathoda  09/18/2008 03:37 PM Report

I discuss the "newly developed techniques" Woodward refers to: http://mathoda.com/archives/320

Ranjit Mathoda  09/18/2008 03:37 PM Report

I discuss the "newly developed techniques" Woodward refers to: http://mathoda.com/archives/320

Linda Lilly  09/18/2008 02:09 PM Report

As far as providing a truthful account of what really happened, Mr. Woodward is in bed with Mr. Bush, despite all appearances to the contrary. For instance, he obstinately refuses to reflect on the role of Richard Land, and other evangelical clergymen, in exploiting Mr. Bush’s keen religious sentiment and inducing (some say seducing) him to wage that war. The desire for body-count is not a uniquely Bush characteristic. Oliver Cromwell before him, as he thought that he was doing the will of a higher father, drew immense pleasure from the counting of enemy dead. So did general Jackson of Virginia in the ware between the states.

Linda Lilly  09/18/2008 02:09 PM Report

As far as providing a truthful account of what really happened, Mr. Woodward is in bed with Mr. Bush, despite all appearances to the contrary. For instance, he obstinately refuses to reflect on the role of Richard Land, and other evangelical clergymen, in exploiting Mr. Bush’s keen religious sentiment and inducing (some say seducing) him to wage that war. The desire for body-count is not a uniquely Bush characteristic. Oliver Cromwell before him, as he thought that he was doing the will of a higher father, drew immense pleasure from the counting of enemy dead. So did general Jackson of Virginia in the ware between the states.

Linda Lilly  09/18/2008 02:08 PM Report

As far as providing a truthful account of what really happened, Mr. Woodward is in bed with Mr. Bush, despite all appearances to the contrary. For instance, he obstinately refuses to reflect on the role of Richard Land, and other evangelical clergymen, in exploiting Mr. Bush’s keen religious sentiment and inducing (some say seducing) him to wage that war. The desire for body-count is not a uniquely Bush characteristic. Oliver Cromwell before him, as he thought that he was doing the will of a higher father, drew immense pleasure from the counting of enemy dead. So did general Jackson of Virginia in the ware between the states.

Linda Lilly  09/18/2008 02:08 PM Report

As far as providing a truthful account of what really happened, Mr. Woodward is in bed with Mr. Bush, despite all appearances to the contrary. For instance, he obstinately refuses to reflect on the role of Richard Land, and other evangelical clergymen, in exploiting Mr. Bush’s keen religious sentiment and inducing (some say seducing) him to wage that war. The desire for body-count is not a uniquely Bush characteristic. Oliver Cromwell before him, as he thought that he was doing the will of a higher father, drew immense pleasure from the counting of enemy dead. So did general Jackson of Virginia in the ware between the states.

Pamela Angell  09/18/2008 01:48 PM Report

Bravo Mr. Woodward...I too, would very much like to hear whom each candidate would surround himself with. I wish it were mandatory that upon selecting a running mate, additional members of the presidential "team" would be addressed.

Lance Dugger  09/18/2008 12:03 PM Report

Your guest last night, Bob Woodward, alluded to the lack of truthfullness between President Bush and his own military minions. He then made a prescient observation that such truth-telling and frankness would be one requirement of our next president, one of many I believe. I hope someone else with a functioning brain sees what seems obvious to me. So many things are screwed up, F.U.B.A.R. if you will, that point to the fundamental mistakes of greed, avarice, hubris, in important areas being cause of these many crises, our next president must be able to listen to many views on an issue and assimilate and use the best of each into the construct of policy. He must be willing and able to communicate the reality and truth of issues to the governed and to form a consensus on which to base action. He therefore must be truthful, honest, and transparent in purpose and action. He must not be wedded to failed policies,either his or others, and fearlessly advocate for a new vision of fairmess and equity. All of these requirements for a new, fairer and more successful political compact are beyond the Republican party and John McCain. Why? Because of many years of unfettered access, undue influence, unbrideled greed, and unbelievable stupidity of a Republican controlled congress, Presidency, Judiciary, and electorate. We all must now reap the whirlwind of their excesses. Should they now be showered with continued public support and reward? That is the question being answered by this election. I think the obvious response is Barack Obama.

Dave Levy  09/18/2008 09:57 AM Report

As far as body counts in Iraq or Texas, as one commentor wrote, here in California there is a death penalty, albeit many are on death row for years. The majority of our citizens approved capital punishment Texas does have a history of executions. In war, you kill the enemy, that is the job of a soldier. I am reminded of that famous line, "This is for fighting..". People kill and people get killed in wars. We killed over 1 million Koreans and Chinese during the Korean War, and G-d knows how many during the Vietnam War. Wars are fought for political reasons..but citizens get the brunt of it. If Bush wanted body counts, that's part of it..better they die for their country, than we for ours, as one general said. As far as the four unforseen problems in Iraq after the invasion, I understand that dozens of problems never surfaced thanks to the preparation., like the blowing up of oil fields, as in the 1st Gulf War, etc. Al Qaeda understood the rivalry and hatred between the various Iraqi factions, and exploited them. The insurgency was not contemplated. But, we must not lose, and Mr. Rose often does, the reason FOR the invasion by the coalition forces, the downfall of Saddam Hussein, NOT to bring democracy to that hapless country. We accomplished our mission, the statement so much derided over the years. We have not stopped Islamic-fascism, so widespread throughout the world, and not fully yet understood or fought. I thought Woodward's second interview was in some ways sympathetic to Bush's leadership, and rightly so. Whether the next President can achieve all that Woodward's analysis requires, is up in the air, and very problematic. Iran's future is fragile, Iran's nukes loom, the M.D. conflict is not decided and can go either way, Russia has become more aggressive and taunting, China holds hundreds of billions of our currency, and the Muslim world is in termoil. But then again, Mr. Woodward will have lots to complain about and criticize, in the comfort of his Washington Post office.

Marie Isenburg  09/18/2008 08:23 AM Report

This is a flawed apology re: a flawed comment I made yesterday. I apologize for the personal nature of the comment I made on Mr. Woodward's report. Mr. Woodward's accounts are an important part of the historical record. Thank you for the follow-up conversations on the September 17 show. Sincerely...

Ashton Brown  09/18/2008 04:47 AM Report

I add my belated appreciations of many years too, having finally visited your site and found a place to send them.

I cannot imagine how it is with the little grey cells -- that you manage to retain intimate familiarity with the relevant details concerning each guest, across a myriad of topics / fields -- but manifestly -- you (and surely a savvy staff) do. You must write a book; you know that, don't you?

One request: it's Late, these nights -- could not the theme music level be dropped about 5 dBm, in deference to others around / maybe sleeping? We'll still be able to hear the catchy tune, just fine.

As to the plight of the Nation, this convergence of climate, weather, money, hubris, killings all over, greedhead woes -- and a commander-in-chief who prefers to unLead / perhaps for realizing it has not ever been his forte (if he has a forte:)

Is there such a thing as National karma?

Appreciatively, hoping for many more years of intelligence on a medium noted mainly for its intentional absence,

Ashton Brown

Spero Saridakis  09/17/2008 02:49 PM Report

My 85 yr old Mother and I have carved out an hour a day to watch your broadcast. We spend another hour or two discussing the subject matter. Thank you so very much Mr. Rose and staff for what I consider the most thought provoking, incisive, and intelligent shows out there. My mother and I wish that I could be part of what you do, to keep such excellence thriving. I wish you were in San Francisco, and that I could contribute in some way to your program.

Thanks again, you've made the world a better place.

Sincerely,

Spero Saridakis