Charlie Rose

sock puppet  09/29/2008 09:30 PM Report

Pierre - don't be too hasty that we are at last getting rid of his idol, as I'm afraid he'll be happy with his replacement - Jingo John. We don't seem to catch on down here.

Pierre  09/29/2008 08:59 PM Report

The irony is, suck puppet, that we are here in Canada about to re-elect a Prime Minister, M. Harper, who has a sure tendency to be a copycat of Bush in his domestic and foreign policies (takes himself for the Republican President of Canada I think, which is pathetic), while you are at last getting rid of his idol. If he had been Prime Minister at the time, we would be in Iraq with you today.

Fortunately his election it will not have the same internationnal consequences, except for our own credibility, especially in Europe.

sock puppet  09/24/2008 06:54 PM Report

jose from Argentina and Pierre: TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU BOTH. Jose because we seem to relish indiscriminant killing. If the victims are nonwhite that also seems to be preferred (Koreans, Vietnamese, Iraq's). Now Pakistani's with missile-firing drones with numerous noncambatants killed (collateral damage), creating more enemies with each bit of stupidity. -------------------------------------------------------- Pierre because we have failed as a nation ( a so-called Christian one) to send the world a message of retribution and remorse by impeaching the pathological depravity leading us into the toilet of the world. We deserve what we tolerate.

jose from Argentina  09/24/2008 05:36 PM Report

It´s incredible that everybody is speaking about George W. Bush´mistakes with relate to the war as to the risks he imposed at the US military and so on. What about the 100,000 civilians that were killed and nobody speaks about. I think the american people should show some remorse publicly about the tragedy of so many innocent people who lost their lives, and the world is not seeing this forth coming.

Pierre  09/21/2008 08:26 PM Report

Clever analysis but much to late.

George Bush never had his feet on the ground. He is living in a fantasy of is own, the illusion of being a kind of an Abraham Lincoln of his time. But he is not. He takes power for legitimacy, domination for leadership, stubbornness for moral courage, blind dogmatism for faith and self-assertion for wisdom (if not for maturity).

The war in Iraq was crazy from the beginning. It was a naive idea, it was unnecessary and it was above all morally reprehensible for all the suffering it caused in the absence of a realist hope of success. The fact that the occupation was badly carried out was the cherry on the sundae, if we needed one, but it is not the main aspect History will judge.

THIS WAS NOT SIMPLY A TECHNICAL OR OPERATIONNAL MISTAKE. I truly wonder if Americans have really learned something about that tragedy and it worries me for our common future.

I do not understand why C.R. is still wanting to square the circle about all this. I understand that he wants to save the ideal image he has of his beloved country but he should not confuse having ideals and stubbornly believing to be the embodiment of those ideals (c.f. Sigmund Freud). Yes I know that he wants to prove that United Staters are well intentioned peoples,, and I believe the vast majority are, but I am afraid that he is just showing that they are too dumb to acknowledge the reality of their failure and the evidence of their blindness in the present matter, which is a very bad service to do to his country.

joe  09/20/2008 10:19 PM Report

Between Thomas Ricks and Bob Woodward, we have seen more information on this administration than the sum of all other reporters. Take the information at face value and make your own determination about the direction President Bush has taken the country, but this is information everybody who lives in the U.S. should have. Thanks for another great interview with one of the great reporters (and editor!) of our time.

sock puppet  09/20/2008 09:58 PM Report

Populating current conversations with this comment at risk of irritating some, which for those (types) so inclined my profit will compound. This is another (wildly) vivid case for regulation. Even Kosher meat processing is dishonored. Religions don't temper our baser instincts - from carnage to egregious greed. Corporate greed via their lobbying pimps and Congressional venal whores promote the human debasement depicted in the video cited below. Corporate greed to maximize profits dehumanize employees (they of necessity have to overcompensate with an anger at their dumb victims) abuse, torture the dumbest yet the most innocent amongst us. Other earthlings. All slaughter houses need regulating and oversight - particularly corporate ones. They mock Kosher proceedings, but most of all they mock and dishonor common decency. Please pass it on. Why hell if we would do this to dumb animals we might even justify torture of humans, err I mean water-boarding err sensory deprivation err . . . . I repeat, please pass it on. A kernel of humanity towards the humbler (but nobler?) among us might help transfer similar sentiments to ourselves. (A variation of Pogo's revelation.) The link: (it ain't pretty - largely because our values are refracting (magnified) right back at us.) Thanks for your time. N.B.: It's important! _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1282796533661048967&hl=en _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ Attribution and kudos to "Marilyn!"

3000 KILLED ON 911   09/20/2008 08:35 PM Report

BOB WHAT AMERICA REALLY WANTS TO KNOW IS

1. WHY YOU HAVENT FOUND WHERE OUR 2 TRIL. DOLLARS THAT ARE STILL MISSING FROM THE PENTAGON THAT WAS TOLD TO US BY COMPTR. ZIONIST

RABBI DOV ZAKHIEM ON SEPT 10 2001

LIVE ON CSPAN.?

2. WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO WTC 7 AT 5PM

ZIONIST SILVERSTIENS SAYS HE ORDERED FDNY TO DEMOED IT.?

3. WHAT WAS THE STARRING ROLE PLAYED BY

ZOMBIE SHARON AND HIS MOUSAD

DURING AND AFT 911 ?

REF TO BY GOOGLE SEARCH

CONFRONTING THE EVIDENSE BY JAMES WALTER

AND

TERRORSTORM BY ALEX JONES

AND

ZIONIST CRIMES.

ONLY FOOLS STILL BELIEVE THE FAIRY TALE

OF A GANG FROM A CAVE.

Christopher  09/19/2008 04:34 AM Report

Poor Bob does not get it. He credits bad Bush moves on bad communication. I think the great error people do is look too much at how someone "thinks". As if someone's intentions excuse his screw ups. It is incompetence. Period. At this point, if someone needs to buy Woodward's book for "insight", it is hopeless for you. You will never get it...

d  09/19/2008 01:01 AM Report

This guy is a Bush apologist and is not using any critical thought from his "journalistic" powers.What a lame interview, this guy purports Bush is clueless and ignorant to whats going on!

Alvin D Hofer  09/18/2008 10:47 PM Report

All of the discussion circumvents the issue of the morality of our maintaining an invasion which was not justified in the first place. Many who did not realize it before know now that they were duped into supporting the Bush wars by a compliant media that did not wish to challenge the President and risk the interests of the media ownership before federal regulatory agencies and others in the executive branch and Congress. Now that most of us know it, must we not ask ourselves: if the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were not justified, if the way to deal with terror is through international cooperation and intelligence sharing, isn't withdrawing from killing more people (including our own) the decent thing to do? That question, Mr Woodward does not consider in his discourse, because - understandably - the subjects of his book are the wars and the president.

R BARRON  09/18/2008 05:53 PM Report

As farfetched as it may sound, presidents should be subjected to psychological analysis to determine if they are fit for the job.

Campaigns spend so much time guarding evidence which might be deleterious to the election of a candidate, the electorate sometimes, if not often, has a distorted image of the candidate owing to myth making.

George Bush is not fit to be president. He is uncompromising, obdurate, painfully self- conscious, and unable, evidently, to brook disagreement.

Even if the American people are spoon-fed information which on its face seems silly and feckless, many seem to be content to have a president who appears unwavering and almost contemptuous of dissenting opinions.

That is not what this democracy is about. If you want a dictator, be forthright and say so.

We are headed in that direction with a perceptive vacuity that lays to waste the contention that we are an informed nation. As things go from bad to worse, we may very well see the suspension of the freedoms we give lip service to simply because we long for security and ready solutions.

amilius  09/18/2008 04:10 AM Report

I always find it shocking when two supposedly knowledgeable people can't say what the lesson of Viet Nam is, as demonstrated by Charlie and Bob Woodward this evening.

The lesson was the same as the lesson of all Revolutions, even our own. The events of 9.11 should have reminded us of this lesson. Instead we exacerbated the consequences of our choices.

Had we remembered rather than ignored this lesson in Viet Nam, 9.11 and Iraq might never have occurred.

This is the lesson of Viet Nam:

One does not disenfranchise a people in their own land without inviting consequence to one's own land.

History demonstrates that this is so.

Steven M.  09/18/2008 03:38 AM Report

All I know is that you people supporting Bush all have your heads in the Iraq sand.Bush went to war over oil and he is guilty of severe war -torture-and- murder-crimes and should be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent, of the law because he is not above the law of the land just because he is the foulest most wicked President America has ever had in office.

The Government is spending billions of dollars a day in Iraq for a war that will never be won that could have been invested in securing our borders and technology from space to defend America.If technology allows our Government to read a news paper from space surely they can see the enemy.How do you like knowing Bush is having your phone calls listened to and can watch you from space get naked and take a bath,yes it is true.

The Government will no doubt take over everything in America and continue to rob the poor and help the rich get richer until they get $45,000,000.00 before they rob them to.

McCain said it right Washington DC is the city of satan.No better than that the White House is the Church of satan and mr so-called Christian president is as lost as satan and will burn in hell right along with hiter,stalin ect.

No God can`t bless America because it is damned and God`s Judgment on America the slaughter house has not even begun.Think about weather warfare created by our government and the secret concentration camps waiting on Bush to declare Marshal Law and kill or torture in the concentration camps those who refuse to give up their guns.Russian troops in Canada and Mexico waiting for the order to attack citizens of the USA.

Yes keep thanking your president that has failed miserably and should be impeached.What if he attacks Iran to stay in office after declaring a suspension of the 2008 elections and declare Marshal Law so he can be protected from prosecution?Just might happen,stay tuned.

I think before he leaves office America will not be the land of the free our rights is on his desk to vanish with the stroke of his pen.Islam has a chance to take over America through Obama who says he is a Christian.Obama quit lying to the American people.Obama is anti-gun-pro-murder-pro homo-and anti-freedom.

George Washington said it well.It is impossible to govern America without God and the Bible.Abraham Lincoln:I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man,all the good from the Saviour of the world is communicated to us through this Book.

Robert E. Lee;In all my perplexities and distress,the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.

Folks want to know why America is in her shape?We have no President that lives by what our founding Fathers lived by and thats the rock that has stood the test of time when all its opposers have not stood but lay in their graves rotting away.

God bless you Charlie Rose for having guest on that speaks the truth.

sock puppet  09/18/2008 02:40 AM Report

Douglas and Dave both seem to be perennial hawks from the we-had-to-destroy-that-village-to-save-it school. War to save the UN? War to save NY from the ever illusory WMD (still?) and its attendant mushroom cloud. And apparently without a wit of embarrassment.

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Never mind that we are creating more enemies desirous to do the very things they claim by our arrogant heavy-handed militarism. Al qaeda in Iraq wasn't there till we arrived. Now we are blundering our way in Afghanistan in a similar short-sighted heavy-handed use of airpower using drone firing missiles callously killing civilians and creating 100 insurgents for each alleged bad-guy kill. In Pakistan at that (a WMD state). We keep sticking Igor in his eye we just may fulfill the warmongers warnings yet. They can boast as we are being fried, "We tried to warn you milquetoast appeasers!" Our species wont survive because of the perverse mentality that says we-have-to-have-war-to-have-peace. Go figure!

Dave Levy  09/18/2008 01:40 AM Report

Bob Woodward, and others of his anti-Bush ilk, has thankfully not impeded the war against Islamic-fascism. It's so easy to be a back seat driver. I wonder what he would do if he were the President, and had Bush's headaches? Sure, it's so easy to write books, in the comfort of his office or residence, when one doesn't have the responsibility of running a nation, or a war for that matter. I wonder if Roosevelt handled World War Two differently, considering the magnitude and complexity of that war? Was he involved daily, as Woodward criticized Bush for not being, on a moment to moment basis. We should be advised that there were and are other matters for the Executive..even though Iraq deserves priority.

What is so wrong with a trusted adviser handling some of the details and policy, Bush was ultimately in charge. Sure, 20-20, perhaps the idea of a democratic Iraq, was fantasy, a country which, I knew 6 years ago was a basket case..living on it's past laurels, oil, and a future of violence promised against it's neighbors. Bush won the war in the first three weeks, and, should have turned the country over to the Iraqis, for better or worse. Rose asks the same question constantly, and should be now know the response. "Is this the worst foreign affair disaster ever by the US?". Well, if Saddam or his sons were in power now, and exploded a WMD (directly or through surrogates) in another major city, or New York, what would we be saying? Who would be blamed, Woodward or Charlie Rose? 911 intended to kill hundreds of thousands of people, with buildings falling against one another in downtown Manhattan. An Iraq with Saddam might have achieved that goal, had we not brought down that regime. Woodward thinks he is clever, but in fact, he has undermined the security of this country, the M.E. and perhaps the planet.

Douglass Montrose-Graem  09/18/2008 01:32 AM Report

This refers to Part II.

Is not his book largely based on leaked [therefore selective\ classified and secret documents?

We dont seem to get it - We decided on a military intervention to UPHOLD THE INTEGRITY OF THE U.N. When Saddam defied 16UN resolutions, a 17th defiance would have spelled the end of any credibility the UN had - now largely vanished.

I know what I speak of because my Dad was ambassador to the League of Nations which failed because no one had the will up to 1939 to stop Hitler's defiance of League resolutions.

That appeasement led to more than 60 million dead.

How many more millions will have to die as a consequence of our current craven appeasement?

{Regretfully that is quite outside Woodward's compass of understanding.\

sock puppet  09/18/2008 01:31 AM Report

Woodward said Bush claimed his commanders were'nt fighting and that he had to request body counts. He has body counts from Texas as well as Iraq. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ Published on Saturday, June 17, 2000 in the New York Times Texas Executions: GW Bush Has Defined Himself, Unforgettably, As Shallow And Callous by Anthony Lewis BOSTON-There have been questions all along about the depth and seriousness of George W. Bush. They have been brought into sharp focus now by a surprising issue: the way the death penalty is administered in Texas. In his comments on that subject Governor Bush has defined himself, unforgettably, as shallow and callous. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ In his five years as governor of Texas, the state has executed 131 prisoners -- far more than any other state. Mr. Bush has lately granted a stay of execution for the first time, for a DNA test. ---------------------- In answer to questions about that record, Governor Bush has repeatedly said that he has no qualms. "I'm confident," he said last February, "that every person that has been put to death in Texas under my watch has been guilty of the crime charged, and has had full access to the courts." ------------------------ That defense of the record ignores many notorious examples of unfairness in Texas death penalty cases. Lawyers have been under the influence of cocaine during the trial, or been drunk or asleep. One court dismissed a complaint about a lawyer who slept through a trial with the comment that courts are not "obligated to either constantly monitor trial counsel's wakefulness or endeavor to wake counsel should he fall asleep." ------------------------------------ This past week The Chicago Tribune published a compelling report on an investigation of all 131 death cases in Governor Bush's time. It made chilling reading. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ Now a sicko, whining, thumb-sucking Democrat might make some unfounded outrageous conclusion that W 'GOT-OFF' on body counts. Further accuse that wet dreams occurred when visiting certain VA venues. And that PC keeps him from visiting GITMO.--------------------- My response: he's a good God-fearing Christian and merely doing the Lord's work as He has been directed - first hand.

Douglass Montrose-Graem  09/18/2008 01:18 AM Report

Why did my comment disappear in the last 24 hours?

pbc83  09/17/2008 11:24 PM Report

It's sad to see such a famed journalist become a tool of the administration to spread dread and fear. Many of the critical remarks he's made about the Bush administration in the past should have been expressed far sooner than we he in fact did. We as a nation could've been spared another 4 years of catastrophic rule.

Judith Mudd-Krijgelmans  09/17/2008 10:00 PM Report

Glad to see you finally give your views about the President's incompetence in leading the war. How could he not know that giving you such close and lengthy access would expose him as being weak and uninformed?

Ranjit Mathoda  09/17/2008 01:03 PM Report

I speculate on the covert operations Woodward mentions in my blog post "America apparently now has relentless see-through-walls flying terminator drones": http://mathoda.com/archives/320

Ranjit Mathoda  09/17/2008 01:02 PM Report

I speculate on the covert operations Woodward mentions in my blog post "America apparently now has relentless see-through-walls flying terminator drones": http://mathoda.com/archives/320