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Live coverage of the Republican National Convention with David Brooks, Charlie Cook, Carly Fiorina, Mark Halperin, Al Hunt, Lisa Murkowski, and Byron York.
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Mark 09/08/2008 02:17 PM Report
Byron York: "It was kind of an electric moment when she came out."
Wow! Do you think Mr. York wet his pants?
First Sister Sarah met with his bosses at AIPAC. Then Mr. York actually got to see her from afar.
I am impressed.
The End 09/05/2008 08:18 PM Report
Some of you need to take a break! It would be a joy to not see the same psychotic babble posted for each show.
Neil MacCallister 09/05/2008 05:49 PM Report
Sen. Obama is a segregationist, a divider. He divides Americans into: Those who are on the government payroll, and those who are not. He himself knows only public-money payroll for his income, his education, and his "community projects". This is dangerous, as it leaves him with an unreal understanding of the source of money, fulfillment, and strength. That source is personal struggle, personal survival, and personal achievement. His limited background affords Mr. Obama no appreciation for the American journey: He refuses to lift his hand to his heart for our flag, he is a proud atheist toward the American Spirit.
John McCain looked up from the dirty floor of a war prisoner's cell and found strength in the memory of America: Its people, its struggle, and its progress. He heard the voices of the other prisoners encouraging him to continue on in company with his fellow countrymen. Their uniforms were gone, no cheers or bugles sounded. But there was that voice from the next cell, and there was that American flag he had scratched into the dirt on the floor.
Our flag never yells, never fires a bullet. It is more a blanket than a club. It is the single most important banner under which we define ourselves, and find ourselves, as Americans. Our flag waves to us in good times and bad, from the high school playing fields to the battlefields of war. There is no division here: Our flag flies in the exercise yard at the prison, and at the post office, and the corner church. There are not two Americas, there is only one. This is it, we are the people who populate it now. We are the ones John McCain hoped to see again as he sketched that flag in the dirt.
Who among us would let that flag fall to the ground? Who among us would refuse to lift their hand to their heart in its honor? Anyone in that group does not appreciate what it means to be an American. Anyone in that group has not lain in a foreign prison cell. Anyone in that group has never been on the front line with those Americans who have struggled to keep it flying.
Our National Anthem is a description of the pride one American warrior felt when he witnessed that flag surviving through a battle filled night, still flying high and sparkling in the morning sun. We hope we can all survive the struggles of life with such honor. We hope America can survive its struggle, and continue to bring health and happiness to people suffering all around this world. Our anthem gave hope to John McCain on that prison floor. It has always given hope and comfort to people struggling to survive the hardships of life.
When that flag survives to fly in each new morning, and that Anthem plays to deliver our thanks and our shared hope that it will fly forever; people of thought, experience, and character raise their hand to their hearts in a shared communication of their pride, wonder, and appreciation of America's efforts.
Not everyone understands what America is, not everyone says thanks, not everyone joins the pledge to help it continue: Barack Obama does not raise his hand to his heart for the anthem of America. Perhaps he feels he could have gotten his Harvard education in Malaysia, or Kenya, or Iran.
John McCain knows better. John McCain has been there. John McCain sees that flag for the life banner it is; and when that anthem plays, broken disfigured shoulders or not, he will lift his hand to his heart in its honor. That is what Americans do.
Let's elect an American as President!
Neil MacCallister 09/05/2008 03:37 PM Report
As you just said, Samuel, "If McCain wins, ..America will continue". If Obama wins, the flag will come down, without even a salute in passing.
samuel 09/05/2008 03:21 PM Report
How ridiculous this whole thing is. Why don't you "journalists" stop kissing rear ends. What's astonishing is that the republicans are completely unapologetic and perhaps even very pleased with themselves, despite the fact they have buggered up the world. And all this whining and moaning about the "liberal" media is a patent absurdity, the same old conservative shtick, that may warm the hearts of the base but to an outsider seems quite pathological. And all her snipes against Obama . . . . please. Should McCain and his shrill running mate win - remember it was written here first - America will continue to decline, caught up in its own completely irrational and dangerous mythology. How disgusting all around.
Gina 09/05/2008 09:13 AM Report
Well, here is another dichotomy that is interesting. Sarah Palin's husband worked for 18 years as an 'Oil Production Supervisor' and only left his job taking a leave of absence due to the fact that it was conflict of interest with Sarah Palin's position. Again, why does everything lead back to OIL with these Republican hierarchy office seekers? I would be surprised if that does not weigh heavily with some. The longstanding argument of searching for other sources of energy and oil would seem to be a moot point with all of these extended branches jutting out from the tree of the ‘Oil Barons’.
not fooled 09/05/2008 05:48 AM Report
You nailed it PK Denver! And, McCain 'Flushed the Toilet' on the very day millions of Americans faced a disaster. Talk about timing! From the male side of the fence, McCain has used the most fundamental of advertising ploys: Sex and Style sells. McCain may say he's going after those 18 million cracks in the ceiling, but McCain is also targeting the middle class male voter that polls show as having a hard time accepting an African-American as President. After all, what's not to love about a gun-totting, child-carrying beauty queen? That's corporate cultural sexism at its historical best pandering to the most base of human desires. Even Charlie Rose fell for it!
PK Denver 09/05/2008 01:48 AM Report
The Republicans can play the media like a violin. The campaign manager said they were going to "flush the Toilet" and get all the Palin negatives out in the in one day and plunge it into a media vacuum regarding Gov. Palin. This was a strategy that in effect was chumming the waters to create a media feeding frenzy that rallied all the troops to Gov. Palin's defense. And now they will milk that all the way to the election...
Anyone thinking of voting for Palin because of the horrors of the liberal media and its sexism: beware its a con.
They had other options, float Palin as a possibility, provide interviews to the press. Palin and McCain avoided all interviews. Only provided the negative information that the press has to report. The McCain/Palin ticket didn't handle it that way because this served the Republican interests better.
WVPUMA 09/05/2008 12:34 AM Report
Charlie,
You underestimate the draw of Palin to democrats. No she can not replace Hillary, but then neither can Obama. The question is who do you vote for when your party has betrayed you? Who do you vote for when no candidate represents your voice? You choose the candidate that will lead with personal conviction, not party affiliation. Remember, this is just one election, 4 years. Many PUMAs are talking about voting anti Obama, not necessarily pro republican. We'll survive these four years and send a message. Next four years we will be listened to.
Gina 09/05/2008 12:33 AM Report
Ohh and 'MotherlodeBeth':
It sounds like you would like to see Sarah Palin become President of the United States more than you'd like to see the ACTUAL presidential running candidate, John McCain become President.
simmer down, kiddies 09/05/2008 12:33 AM Report
Gina - let me give you a little advice. The reason people are comparing Palin to Obama is that they excpect McCain to die. Get it? Now be quiet. The end.
Gina 09/05/2008 12:33 AM Report
simmerdownkiddies:
You don't like what I said? Too bad. You are free to leave the room, nobody's stopping you. So take your little itty_bitty testes you call a 'brain' and go find the idiot room. There are conversations going on here.
to TC 09/05/2008 12:29 AM Report
No, I didnt say I did anything of the sort. I am saying that the people who push a comparison of Obama to Palin obviously must expect McCain to die otherwise it makes no sense. So as a Democrat I say to the GOP - keep pushing the idea that your guy is so old we need to weigh Palin against Obama in case he dies - it helps OBAMA you dummies.
TC 09/05/2008 12:23 AM Report
To simmer down:
So you expect McCain to die do you. Don't tell that to his spry mother of 96 who was at his side tonight!
Toni 09/05/2008 12:17 AM Report
Would someone please explore further these fantasy comments that "Palin electrified the nation." That couldn't be further from the truth. The more I see gun toting pictures of her and her family, the more afraid I am that the Republicans are trying to "spin" her right into the White house, one breath from the Presidency. I understand and believe that generally family is off limits but where are all these family values. Every day something more distressing comes to light about her and her family. Not the caliber of leader I would want in the White House.
Mark 09/05/2008 12:10 AM Report
Every time I see Byron York, I'm reminded of Germany in 1938 and Rwanda in 1993.
Byron York simply causes one to think of holocaust and genocide.
And all with a smile.
To Charlie 09/05/2008 12:00 AM Report
You need a moderator, Charlie.
"Gina" 09/04/2008 11:57 PM Report
obviously you didnt understand my post and just want to write filth.
Tanya Gallo 09/04/2008 11:48 PM Report
I have been a long time Charlie Rose viewer and I have to say that after Wednesday night's show with Orin Hatch made me consider never watching the show again. The offensive and sexist comment from Senator Hatch about Palin's "femininity" and later when questioned by Al Hunt about what he meant by it, he replies "Oh you know what I meant and if you didn't then......" at which point a big laugh was had by old the men on the show. Like someone had just made a dirty joke. It was truly unbelievable and I felt embarrassed for all of them. And for Palin. Who I don't support politically.
Also, I can't believe Charlie did not come back with something to Hatch when the Senator said that Obama is "very very very very far left. He couldn't get more left?" Huh? Are you kidding? People on the left would laugh him out of the room. Does he really know or understand Obama's policies? Its so left field (no pun intended). Please due diligence during the interviews and discussions. Its irresponsible not to.
You let me down Charlie. Your usual incisiveness and attention to detail was completely absent for me that night. It reminded me of what an old boy's club this country really is Even in the "liberal media" to use your words from last night.
Defender 09/04/2008 09:20 PM Report
I have always thought of you, Charlie, as an very good and unbiased journalist but after last night I will have to rethink my praise of you to others. Is everyone in the media left leaning? Sarah Palin did an excellent job of presenting herself in her first major public appearance. She was focused on those issues of which she is strongly versed, and with time she will become more adept on others. Mr. Obama wasn't too adept on most issues until he ran against Mrs. Clinton for 12 months. We should be seeking to understand how well Ms. Palin can learn the information required to be VP and then how we think she will apply her newly gained wisdom. Their are many CEO's and senators and congressmen as old as John McCain so age should not be a concern anymore than it is with Joe Biden who is only a few years younger. So lets wait and see how Ms. Palin does over the next few months and then we can all privately make a Decision in November.
Neil MacCallister 09/04/2008 09:13 PM Report
Geraldine Ferraro ran for VP herself in ’84, and this year tried to help Hillary Clinton, but got turned away after she spoke-up about Sen. Obama’s generous media coverage. Hillary continued to campaign, and offered her 18 million votes to Barack in exchange for a partnership. Sen. Obama now turned Sen. Clinton away, choosing instead the congressional insider Sen. Biden, who had gathered what, ..9,000 votes?
John McCain chose his partnership with the Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin. The Oba-media immediately attacked Sarah, charging “How dare she leave her husband at home with the kids, while she goes off to public service!”
Ms. Ferraro spoke up once again (..and across party lines!) to reproach the narrow minds of the national media.
Please stick around Ms. Ferraro, ..our nation still needs you!
hd 09/04/2008 08:29 PM Report
Her popularity is a commentary on the educational system in this country in which, unfortunately, people are often not taught to reason, to analyze. We are now prey to a population who feel themselves to be "educated" by television personalities (read Oprah), whose views are not plumbed for depth as judged entirely superficially. Who cares what the facts are, whoever looks good, talks loud, is the most folksy is who people are prepared to like. And they want to like their president and blame some other (for most people anonymous) body, Congress, the media for their problems. Demagoguery. Face in the Crowd. We're living it.
TABS 09/04/2008 07:32 PM Report
Because you can say it or do it, it doesn't mean that you should. Freedom implies a level of responsibility for ones actions. A responsibility to be a good neighbor, not only to know your own limitations but to know your neighbors sensibilities. Americans are fast losing that sensibility. Democracy to function requires that both sides of a political argument trusts the other, that their hearts are for the best interest and not just partisan interests. Since 2000 the stitching of this Republic is being torn at by both sides and, is becoming more viperous with each passing election cycle. At some point the parties had better realize that they are creating a whirlwind. For, "If we do not do right God will let us go our own way to our ruin."
Gina 09/04/2008 07:31 PM Report
MotherlodeBeth:
I put the question to you. How is Sarah Palin more qualified than Joseph Biden??? Afterall this IS a Vice Presidential debate. Let me give you a little advice. Why don't you stick to comparing the right candidates? I doubt you will see Obama debating Palin unless there is some information you are privy to that I am NOT!!!
jaden 09/04/2008 07:16 PM Report
re: the Fiorina comments: George W. Bush was a cheerleader in college. Also, we don't need a tutored hockey mom to have the awesome responsibilities of protecting America from enemies foreign and domestic. Maybe the next president should consider her for a Cabinet job, say commerce or energy, since that's where her talents seem to be. But NOT the one who is a "heart beat" away from those awesome responsibilities.
Matt 09/04/2008 07:07 PM Report
I really wish Charlie would stop having Mark Halperin on. The man is an idiot and I'm tired of his inane comments/opinions. I would LOVE for you to get Jonathan Alter on.
Gina 09/04/2008 07:05 PM Report
Spare me please. If you want to get statistical I will give you Joseph Biden, (HELLO)??? Comparing just his experience up against Sarah Palin’s background. You conveniently and selectively chose to compare experience between the Presidential candidate who is Barack Obama and Sarah Palin who is the Vice Presidential candidate. How convenient. Obviously there is some challenge to your comparison of the two Vice Presidential candidates that you do not want to touch. And that would be wise. Let us put this in the proper perspective here where it belongs. Joseph Biden is the “Vice Presidential’ candidate here, not Barack Obama and comparing the two. Well Joseph Biden was first elected to the US Senate in 1972 in the state of Delaware, with 36 years of experience. Now, I do believe the math would calculate out to be….she would have been 8 years old that year. From a state with a population of 670,000 voters compared to one New York State county of almost 950,000 voters alone does not a leader of a nation of 300 million make. And Mayor of a little town that is less than 7,000 people hardly constitutes leadership ability of a country of many diversities of 300,000,000 people. You’ll have to do better than that. Do you call that ‘Sour Grapes’ of ‘mis-information’ so far? I think not. I would not even dwell on the 80% of the entire state of Alaska in support of Sarah Palin because that would still calculate out approximately 100,000+ who are not in support of her and I am being generous. We shall see. Let the debates begin.
jay bird 09/04/2008 07:03 PM Report
to che ella
Mrs. Pelosie did not go to work until her children were adults. Sounds like there is a lot of things your not up on.
jay bird 09/04/2008 07:00 PM Report
Ms. Palin reminded me of a highschool bully trying to hurt her rival. The sneer and the snarl on her face was most embarrassing. I can't believe the hate that women has for her fellowman. This is a born again Christian? Lead by example?
Preston 09/04/2008 06:55 PM Report
I apologize for that bit of vulgarity there. It was part of my upbringing that I'm trying to shed.
MotherLodeBeth 09/04/2008 06:38 PM Report
Comment by Gina on Thursday, Sep 4 at 04:53 PM
We all know everyone’s trying to build Sarah Palin up and bring her to the forefront to get her past these tough beginning days after the announcement. I can respect that..but the bottom line is she is not ready to be Vice President of the United States nor President of the United States. ===================
Let's see Gina. She's met with reps from Russia, China, Taiwan, South Korea because Alaska does a lot of business (timber, oil, natural gas, fishery). One on one meetings in an official capacity. How many official capacity meetings has Senator Obama had with any country. Note I said official. He has had NONE. How many city, state budgets has he signed? NONE. And as she noted as a Mayor and Governor, voting 'present' doesn't work. You have to lead and cannot pass the buck to someone else.
So how is Obama more qualified that she is to be either Vice President or President. He has been a community organizer, law school professor, state senator and now U S Senator. Where is their executive experience he and Biden said was so important last week when they were talking at their convention? She's dealt with a multi BILLION dollar state budget, cut spending and has dealt first hand with other countries. Obama and Biden have NOT. She's over seen close to 100,000 employees. They have NOT.
Jack 09/04/2008 06:22 PM Report
PLEASE fix the video.
Basil 09/04/2008 05:56 PM Report
Sarah has an 80% approval rating from those she serves in Alaska. She has executive experience from serving as mayor and then Governor. Obama has neither. She has the big picture - Obama has been running for President these past 18 months. It does matter. There has been so much mis-information being slung around the media, I find it disgusting. Because the vetting process was done in secret then obviously it wasn't done well enough. Sour grapes.
Gina 09/04/2008 04:53 PM Report
We all know everyone’s trying to build Sarah Palin up and bring her to the forefront to get her past these tough beginning days after the announcement. I can respect that..but the bottom line is she is not ready to be Vice President of the United States nor President of the United States. We are in a state of MAJOR crucial times here. I understand what McCain is trying to do, he is trying to appease woman voters and offset Barack Obama being black by appointing a woman Vice Presidential candidate. He is shining her soccer mom all-American persona to the people which is fine…but she is fluff and I consider her to be an amateur. I don’t see the maturity nor do I see the strength or seriousness in her convictions when she speaks, she seems silly to me, and immature and I don’t see the strength of character that she will need to Vice President this country and for darn sure lead it if it becomes necessary. I would start asking her questions immediately about what she would do and how she would handle crisis..i.e..another terrorist attack in this country, negotiating the world’s issues this country is embroiled in right now as we speak.. Russia, the Middleast, Iraq, Iran. How about the immigration issues? What about the economy of this country and all of its complicated levels and sub-level divisions. Don’t say she will be able to rely on her Cabinet and those around her to guide her into making the right decisions that would be the best moves on all of these issues and a hundred more for the country she would have to deal with ‘IF’ McCain were not able to finish his term. The bottom line here is I don’t think she has the acumen, knowledge, instinct, wisdom, maturity, or leadership ability to lead all the complexities of this country especially on the world scale of international affairs. I don't think so. This country is in a series of simultaneous crisis and it is going to take serious leadership BELIEVEABLE leadership and I'll tell you I like John McCain, I think he is a decent man, a well-seasoned long term politician but I don't think he's right for the job and in my view Sarah Palin does not hold up next to him. They are mismatched. We will be seeing shortly how all of these issues unfold.....
Prayer Scout 09/04/2008 04:44 PM Report
Sarah Palin, the lowest end of the gene pool's answer to the American dream - living proof that "abstinence only" sex education produces morons.
Palin, so confused by the biological sciences and too afraid to contemplate "what would Jesus do", that she used her line item vetoes to slash 2008 funding for food banks-50% and teen pregnancy life skills support programs-20%.
Palin was obviously thrilled to wear the ignorant fool's self-righteous smirk as she proclaimed her pride in sending her 19 year old son off to a war started, funded, and perpetuated by lies from her own party. Ignorance was her bliss as she rode the slippery slope of lying for self aggrandizement, by throwing in “9-11” as her son's dramatic deployment, knowing full well that it is not.
The fact that it was Barack Obama who co-sponsored the successful medical funding for war vets bill was conveniently left out of her speech because she didn't dare admit that Senator Obama has done more for this country's soldiers than stand next to an old one and push another young one into battle.
Ahh yes, Rove and Cheney are having a good 'ole time grooming yet another candidate too ambitious to understand what a pawn is, something McCain already understands but can't resist.
McCain and Palin bring new meaning to political theater, and in this case a true horror show.
Jack 09/04/2008 04:39 PM Report
WHY IS THE VIDEO SO CHOPPY?!
The Angry Three Rights 09/04/2008 04:38 PM Report
I gave a longer version of this, but Charlie, your website ate my comment.
Carly: Cheer leader is a gender neutral activity. Examples: Trent Lott and Ronald Reagan. You need to update your world view. There's even men who are nurses and midwives. It's a ever changing world out there.
And to the GOP sexist noise machine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o
Where's the outrage Carly, et al. Your spin doesn't cut it.
The Three Angry Rights 09/04/2008 04:31 PM Report
I couldn't finish the show. I had to stop it during the Carly Fiorina segment. So perhaps this was addressed:
Carly Fiorina claims media abuse through phrases such as the cheerleading from the west. I am assuming that the allusion to cheer leading is the troubling part of this phrase. This actually illustrates how out-of-touch she is, and by way of proxy, the campaign she represents. The term cheerleader, within a business context, applies both to men and women. CEOs, CIOs, CMOs, et al are often referred to as cheerleaders for their companies they represent. Her insensitivity of the gender neutrality of cheer leading is further exacerbated by a lack of understanding of some of the people who have been cheerleaders: Trent Lott and Ronald Reagan. Is she implying that only women/girls can be cheer leaders? I seriously hope not. It would be an insult to the memories of both Trent Lott and Ronald Reagan. She needs to update her understanding of gender issues is she's going to cast aspersions upon the liberal monstrous press.
I'd also point out the following "how do we beat the bitch" segment from this Senator McCain Q&A:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o
Where's the outrage Carly?
Get your house in order GOP operatives.
Tom Dixon 09/04/2008 04:20 PM Report
Rarely has a more prescient and important statement been made about the media and its public responsibilities than this by Australian author Don Watson: "When journalists ignore abuses of the public language by people of influence and power, and reproduce without comment words that are intended to deceive and manipulate ... when this happens journalism ceases to be journalism and becomes a kind of propaganda." For years I have constantly found myself telling friends how great an interviewer Charlie Rose is. The best, I usually say. You should watch his show every night I add. However I am now totally puzzled by the incredibly superficial, if not irresponsible, nature of the show's coverage of the Republican Convention speeches. I refer in particular to the focus of the panel questions & responses to Sarah Palin's address yesterday. The focus was placed largely on the style and competence of her delivery - e.g. did she pass 'the test' - reducing politics again, like the media obsession with ratings & polls, to nothing more than simple 'popularity' tests. Several admiring comments were made on how naturally she came across and how she was achieving 'small town' appeal. In essence she was being reviewed (as theater critics do for broadway shows) for her 'performance', 'delivery' and 'audience appeal' ... with the focus strictly on personality and not policy or even credibility. An outcome strangely in keeping with the recent comments of a Republican strategist who admitted their central aim was to keep the attention on personalities and not issues (where it should be and where with any level of decent scrutiny their fundamental policies would quickly be shown up as largely lies and failures). As always, the key to success here is the media going along with such an agenda. This of course IS intrinsically a superficial approach, sadly matched by the way so many reporters and journalists nowadays no longer report or investigate, but instead focus on their own 'celebrity' and on air 'performances' - to the detriment of their true journalistic responsibilities. What was clearly evident yesterday was the way the journalistic or 'factual' truth of her content - including personality based attacks on opponents - never seemed to matter. Nor any deeper questioning of the actual results, including known debt blowouts, of her claimed 'greater' managerial experience. (Many senior managers surround themselves with fools and make woeful judgements – while it is already crystal clear that Obama would without hesitation surround himself with all the talent he could get.) In addition, given that in the event of an accident Sarah Palin could actually be the next President of the United States, is it more important to ask questions about her capacity to read a speech and 'impress' people in doing so, or to dig a little deeper and legitimately ask e.g. what bearing her apparent 'out there' religious views might have on her approach to key issues - including the waging of wars ... particularly in a pentecostal 'speaking of tongues' and 'end of days' context. Surely these are vital questions and proper frameworks in which to consider her candidacy. How she REALLY thinks (inside and not in pre-scripted contexts) and what she is potentially capable of doing or how that thinking translates into reality DOES MATTER. So far more care is needed in crafting the Show's panel-based approach to such events. At one point I even found myself hearing Charlie carelessly using a right wing Republican talking point in one of his questions ... when he asked a panel member what she thought about the coverage Palin has been getting from the 'liberal media'. Liberal media? What a joke to talk of totally bottom line oriented, mega corporate entities in such a way. Next time, at least have the decency to say 'so called liberal media' Charlie or you have just become another propagandist for their point of view and their self serving, deliberate distortions of the truth. Sadly, Don Watson's words seem only too relevant here and as a result demean the reputation for quality and a more thoughtful and free thinking approach that the Charlie Rose Show should at all times be aiming to maintain.
Ross 09/04/2008 03:08 PM Report
Executive decisions are only as good as leadership capabilities, or lack thereof, will afford.
Just look at Rumsfeld and company, etc., and the lack of thorough "end game" planning that cost too many lives. Lest be forgotten the trillion-plus extra dollars drained from the taxpayer base to correct that leadership mistake.
The charge of "sexism" by the media leveled by Ms. Fiorina is a spinmaster smokescreen (and yes, Bill Clinton, like all "good politicians" and CEO's, whether ex or current, is adept at smokescreen usage). Whether successful or not has been and will continue to be foder for books and TV shows.
If only fifty percent of the Alaskan-based bloggersphere content - some of which is video-backed - is true , it's any wonder the Republican Muse Machine is cranking out the three monkey smokescreen of "hear no evil, see no evil, then one can't speak no evil" on the American voter.
The same reality-based TV that has helped politicans put their show on the road has also fostered a curiosity that respects no boundaries. Like it or not, the lives of anyone seeking a political leadership role will be "publically" examined by that curiosity. And that includes all of those dark corners in the "closet" that everyone has.
I support that examination. Who knows, maybe everyone will have the opportunity to witness reat-time one of John McCain's temper tantrums with the 'F.U.' and 'I ought to beat you up' phrases, immediately followed by a tearful apology.
Talk about OCD...
Gina 09/04/2008 02:20 PM Report
I don't see it. I don't see what some are seeing about Sara Palin. I am not impressed by the fact that she hunts and fishes. Many Presidents hunt and fish dating back to George Washington. I am not comfortable with people who are on one hand speaking on terms about Pro-Life (which I am) and the huge problem this country has been embroiled in for decades about teenage pregnantcy in which I am especially surprised that the Republican Party is so accepting of considering the fact that they have historically been stuffy and stodgy about that sort of thing going on in their party and relagated irresponsibility and blame on the so-called Liberals and Democrats. I find Sara Palin to be exactly what being touted to be...a soccer mom which is great, outdoors woman PTA type but NO not Vice Presidential one step away from the seat of the 'Commander-In-Chief'. Heck no I don't think so. Sorry.
sock puppet 09/04/2008 02:11 PM Report
Sorry, I must have put this in wrong night.
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What does a think-tank thinker think when a pivot pivots? _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________ Presuming (as I do) that that was Sarah's coronation speech, based on the belief that it was the cover (sought) for many for not feeling guilty about not voting for a black. A viable smart woman will substitute one feel-good vote for the other and everybody's moral sense is assuaged. Obama's glow duly dimmed and supplanted. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________ Now for a fun-n-games exercise of trying to emulate what a think-tank-type would think - first immediate then long-term: All potential antagonists may see the time remaining before 1/20/2009 as a fading opportunity under our unpopular lame-duck president (and prior to the two gunslingers coming on hard). (1) Russia mobilizes against all of its disaffected interests with words and deeds. Particularly Georgia and Ukraine, then Poland and its missile defense agreements and other recalcitrants. (2) The Iraqi's either demand a hard and fast departure date (with no oil concessions), or demand total and real sovereignly and will gladly continue to accept the attendant largesse along with our troop presents. (3) North Korea reconstitutes its nuclear program - even faster than currently. (4) Iran will continue to be Iran - only more so. (5) The drill-now mantra will make OPEC, Russia et al think the oil prosperity may be finite and decide to squeeze the maximum benefits now before our new sources come on line in 5, 10 or 15 years(?). So the per barrel price goes where? $200? $300? $500? Pick a number. Even at $200 we're broke and China's their only customer. Pump-price $10 + per gallon?? (6) Our commercial paper and treasury certificates become devalued to worthless so interest rates are increased to offset this. (7) Inflation becomes rampant as we try to print our way out. (8) We become an ineffectual and ignored banana republic on the world scene. (9) Our petulant and wounded pride will make us even more bombastic and belligerent. (10) In a fit of justified belief and indignation we dust off our nukes (we’ve done it before). Armageddon ready or not. (That last bit is a doomsday offense begging to be disproven.) _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________ Arrogance and belligerence (especially the hollow impotent variety that we excel in) has a built-in cost consideration. So the warmongers chant, "We're all Georgians now!" could incredibly easily turn to, "Alas, we're all toast now!" Economically, militarily or both.
MotherLodeBeth 09/04/2008 01:01 PM Report
Preston I appreciated you comments and yes the more I watch her speak the more I like her. And to be honest I am a woman from the West who like Governor Palin, hunts, fishes and does a lot of outdoor activities, and like the Governor I am blunt and honest when I speak. And I think some people are so used to quiet Republican women that when they see one whose feisty its can be a surprise. I also have served my local community and wonder how may non small town people even know how rough local politics can be compared to big city of national politics. I believe Governor Palin will do just fine. Because she can smile while field dressing a two thousand pound Moose. So the elite eastern establishment isn't a problem.
Preston 09/04/2008 11:47 AM Report
The real test of a speech is - what do you think of it, after watching it a second time?. You can pick-up more nuances and absorb more of the total picture; just like a movie. And usually one's opinion is a little altered. After observing a second time, one is either left thinking a little better or a little worse of what they had judged previously of the same event. I just watched Palin's speech again, and dare I say it, am even more impressed with this crisply sharp, classy lady. She's inspiring. Not just to or for "women", but to and for the survival of the human race. She doesn't have a chip on her shoulder or have to prove anything, she just has a strong sense of what is right and goes and does it. God Bless her and her family.
Charles Rackham 09/04/2008 09:54 AM Report
The coverage by CR and his jolly media,etc. of Sara Palin was so low key. Are you afraid to call her on her shortcomings? And more, you hardly commented on the errors she made in her Obama attack. She can't really make up for John McCain's failings and Bush connections. A governor from a Alaska on the world stage send chills up my spine. Her loyalty to her state to seek higher office is not a good executive decision for Alaska
Not Fooled 09/04/2008 05:29 AM Report
Charlie,
I have absolutely no expectation that anyone you interview at the RNC will provide an unscripted and unrehearsed opinion of Sarah Palin. Tonight, the GOP made good use of the applause sign for Palin and will certainly repeat the artificial response tomorrow for McCain. How can you genuinely applaud high gas prices and the lack of an energy policy, foreclosures and the housing crisis, bank failures and the failing economy, the war in Iraq and the war mongering talk to Iran and Russia?
Plus we also get to see the official GOP policy of attacking the media. This reeks of Richard Nixon and his post-Watergate strategy of innocence and paranoia. This non-Republican Republican convention is hilarious!
MotherLodeBeth 09/04/2008 04:22 AM Report
Did all those white men on tonight's show even HEAR Governor Palins speech? She was very clear when it comes to energy that America needs to start NOW, to create ALL energy sources so that America isn't dependent on other countries, which she then mentioned. She also gave as an example if these men even listened that in Alaska she changed how things were done so that the oil companies were not a monopoly. So now Alaska has some serious competition amongst the energy producing industry. And Ms Carly Fiorina has noted in more interviews than I can count that Governor Palins name was on the short list back in June, so they had plenty of time to check her out. Again I am amazed at how ill informed those men on the program were. But I probably shouldn't be all that surprised. As for the baby with Downs Syndrome. There are LOTS of women with disabled babies and children who work in corporate America. So that's a non issue with me. I tend to think Governor Palins critics simply don't like strong, do it all women.
Lu Rayfield 09/04/2008 03:52 AM Report
Carly Florina continued to reiterate the false analogy of gender bias in the case of the GOP VP pick. She stated the example of; if a man was in her shoes he would not be considered a bad father, but a woman is another story. Not the generalization, but this woman in particular has a special needs infant, and an underaged, pregnant child. How old is the father? Where are her priorities? The Passport issue is bigger than Troopergate. AND there are other issues resonating.
Sarah "Pander" is perhaps the worst political decision of all time.
I was born in Fairbanks. San Francisco for 3 1/2 so far -> Andorra
Neal Carmody 09/04/2008 01:54 AM Report
All the talk about the media attacking John McCain unfairly is ludicrous to me. I've recently learned the full story of McCain's treatment of his first wife. This guy makes Bill Clinton look like a Trappist moonk. This isn't about attacking a family member; this is about a guy who makes a huge deal about "Character" who puts me in mind of a paraphrase of an old blues line -- if it wasn't for bad character he wouldn't have no character at all. I'm disgusted.
twocents 09/04/2008 01:46 AM Report
Let's see, we have record fuel and food prices.
Rising inflation and unemployment. We watched
the Bush administration do absolutely nothing
during all the corporate scandals of early 2000. And we watched them do absolutely nothing
during the run up and bursting of the housing
market. They defined incompetence during
Katrina And Iraq. Where we are on the cusp of victory, we are told. Which means what exactly?
Riding around and hanging out in a busted up
country in shambles. A country we put in shambles. This is victory? To the tune of 10-12
billion a month. Housing prices are falling off a cliff and personal bankruptcies are at a record high. And now we have John McCain the
reformer/agent of "good" change. Are you kidding me? No one has bothered to tell the
old man that HIS republican party has
controlled the executive branch the last eight years and BOTH houses of congress the first six
of those eight years? He is going to save us from what his own party has wrought?