Charlie Rose

tribalreader  10/14/2008 10:06 AM Report

This discussion is suddenly more relevant now after Bill Maher's ridiculous new movie Religilous. The movie is missing the whole basic point of religion and shows how limited Maher's research and perspective are, and how unconscious his hostility towards authority. What else is self-congratulatory narcissism. He is a fundamentalist too but of a different persuasion which happens to be as false as the current soul-less beliefs of religions.

This is what Maher is missing--one cardinal dimension of religion is the Interiors of Consciousness. By bad-mouthing and making fun of the fallacious mind and propagandized belief systems of underdeveloped religious human beings, one cannot deny what mystics of all epochs regardless of their religious inclinations EXPERIENCED in their interiors. Then the limitations of language and the politics of the tribe got in the way of transcendental truth. That is why inner development is a solitary and individual affair. No religious symbol system can do the “inner work” that is necessary for attaining that state of being called the Buddha Mind, the Christ/Krishna Consciousness, aka Satori, Samadhi, Nirvana, Kensho, Fana in different religious systems.

http://www.selftransformation.net/articles/transcen.htm

Religions also comprise the essential meditational practices, the pointing out instructions to discover the latent state of infinity within which cannot be expressed in words and beliefs. The founders of all great religions had that particular experience of the Divine which is humanity's finest hidden potential. Instead of making fun of religions, Bill Maher will do much better to broaden his research and perhaps read William James and Ken Wilber and Evelyn Underhill (i.e. comparative understanding of mystical consciousness) what his fundamentalism might never allow him too. That is what Ken Wilber meant when he wrote about rehabilitating the interior.

'Thus our task is not specifically to reintroduce spirituality and somehow attempt to show that modern science is becoming compatible with God. That approach, which is taken by most of the integrative attempts, does not go nearly deep enough in diagnosing the disease, and thus, in my opinion, never really addresses the crucial issues.

'Rather, it is the rehabilitation of the interior in general that opens the possibility of reconciling science and religion.'

Ralph Webb  09/16/2008 01:09 AM Report

I am interrested in the show on nano/g-nome technologies, my sister is recently widowed and would like to find out more about investing in this technology, so that a trust fund for her son's could be put to good work on their behalf.

Could you please let me know which show it was so that I can show it to her.

Thank you,

Ralph Webb

AG  08/31/2008 11:54 AM Report

brilliant interview. what insights into the future of medicine.

Lawrence MD  08/04/2008 04:42 PM Report

Wipe your brow. Stop sweatin' Charlie.

Nathan  08/03/2008 01:36 PM Report

What an experience to sit down and chat with folks like Collins and Venter. I envy you Charlie.

Tanya Smith  08/02/2008 06:59 PM Report

I like Mr. Collins' double helix tie :)

Ralph I. Prickett  08/02/2008 04:06 PM Report

Dr Collins is so brilliant, and this material is so fascinating, but Rose just needs to !!SHUT UP!! and let the man finish a thought from time to time!! I get the distinct impression he would rather hear his own voice, and it is very frustrating to hear Rose interview somebody of this calibre. All the same, the interview was monstrously interesting, and I plan to watch the others listed also. Dr Collins is an intellectual and discovery Giant of our time.

Ian Thomson  08/02/2008 01:09 AM Report

Dr.Colins was brilliant, one of the people that are totally aware of their profession and the conversation with Charlie is a engaged diatribe of informed intelligentsia, with the odd interjections. Or a heated discussion.

My interjection would be if one can discover the correct DNA sequence to counter cancer of the millions of different cancer DNA flaws, then using Stem cells, of that correct DNA, could one not just inject that stem cell DNA into the affected are and the Correct DNA Stem cell would correct the error in that area and perhaps in the long term the entire body?

Carol Franz  08/01/2008 09:48 PM Report

Charlie's last comment pertaining to many people not aware of treatments or the knowledge presented in this interview leads me to say that over 2,000 Americans die every day of heart disease yet there is a regenerative treatment with adult stem cells from either the patient or a donor that could save many of these 2,000 lives. The FDA has yet to approve the procedure so many of our American doctors take their patients to other countries to have the simple procedure done. I know of many who have been helped, even people who have left hospice to arrange treatments. In my small village of 3800 people we have many alive due to adult stem cell transplants which regenerated their bodies from many different diseases or ailments. I would have died 5 years ago if not for an adult stem cell transplant of my own cells.

Neil Maccallister  08/01/2008 07:47 PM Report

I did not see the "disagrees directly" (with Navigenics), Mr. Hill, although Mr. Collins did say he hopes that ill-advised testing will not lead to fruitless (yet expensive) medical bills. After all, he is a primary driver of this technology, and claims "I am the last person to play down the importance of personalized (DNA directed) medicine." What I did see in review was my own "transcription error" in the earlier comment: Mr. Collins did not want to know, Mr. Craig Venter apparently did, and Mr. Watson wanted to know some, but not all. I apologize, but now better appreciate the tough legal and ethical difficulties the medical community is going to have in the days ahead. Good luck to all of us!!

Christopher HIll  07/31/2008 08:53 PM Report

Looks like Dr. Collins wasn't so excited about Navigenics. Its not too common for you to throw someone on who disagrees directly with Charlie's portfolio picks on air. Hmm maybe thats why Charlie jumped on him or why the online footage wasn't available until today. C'mon guys.

Neil MacCallister  07/31/2008 07:52 PM Report

Thank you, Mr. Collins, for sharing so many productive years in the building of a healthy biosphere. You didn't want to know your markers, yet Mr. Watson did? (..Hah! Anions and cations?) Diversity makes the world beautiful (..and I like your tie!) Thank you.

Carol J  07/31/2008 02:03 PM Report

Charlie you mentioned to Mr. Collins that he and you have access to the best healtcare. How about sharing your healtcare system with the us.

lori  07/31/2008 12:45 PM Report

Yes Charlie stop being so full of yourslef. Smart peole don't have to flount it. When you have fluff pieces, I guess it's o.k. to be rude and interupt. When you have scholars and intellects on, let them speak, finish their thought/sentence.

Tim Hefferon, PhD  07/31/2008 12:25 PM Report

Crikey! Charlie, give the man a chance to answer your question before getting in his face with a follow-up! We don't even get a chance to hear Dr. Collin's response before you interject.

Ferdinand Gajewski, PhD  07/30/2008 07:36 AM Report

Well Dr. Collins was sure right about one thing: if, instead of exporting its armies all over the globe, the United States exported health care (and other necessities of life,

humanity would be better off. A pox on our politicians. A special place is reserved for them in hell.