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Mike O 11/03/2008 10:47 AM Report
If you two can't at least help out the elderly with precript's or even food then why don't you go away and dry up. You may have brains but ZERO common sense. You are both idiots
Rob 07/29/2008 03:03 PM Report
i think people should live as they want as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others and as long as i don't have to pay for it and pay for it and pay for it. a public building is just that, public, not a personal building. don't think many would appreciate someone passing gas non-stop for 5 minutes (smoking is essentially passing gas) in a crowded restaurant but if they find their own personal space let 'er rip and no one suffers. this doesn't have to be about prohibition but can be about informed choice. also, eliminating the idea that smoking is "cool" will go a long way
Philip Johnson 07/29/2008 12:49 PM Report
Henry Ford was an early and vocal proponent of prohibition. God save us from well-meaning fools that want to tell us what to do with our personal lives.
Life has elements of danger and is ultimately punctuated by death. That's part of the package: it's what helps define the beast, clarifies it, gives it a certain vitality, and makes it special. How I choose to squander my life is my business and not the concern of cryptofascists armed with money, political power, and strong sense of arbitrary moral outrage.
I understand the instinct that people need to be "saved from themselves," but it's more than a bit condescending, and also, I believe, a slippery slope into a spic-and-span, ultra-clean and hygienic future of limited personal choice and terminal boredom -- a great, sterile, teflon-lubricated machine where freedom-of-choice and personal-responsibility are deigned to be a foolish conceit of the Modernist epoch, and where the new paradigmic fad is the computational spreadsheet: a great sliding-equation where all humanity is reduced to economic variables and is free to choose from the limited menu afforded to them by well-intentioned autocrats and their bureaucratic toadies -- a sort of politically correct nazi-ism, kinder and gentler, and where dissenters are jailed with full "rights" and redress, but ultimately jailed, where they can be easily processed into cable-television-show fodder for MSNBC prison documentaries to entertain and terrify the citizens into surrendering yet more freedoms.
But I digress, hyperbolize, and otherwise ramble on... too much coffee and Libertarian outrage on this cloudy morning...
Long live the great shopping-mall hive-collective of the future and the all-caring, silicon queen-bee that will protect us from our own human shortcomings!
rob 07/29/2008 10:00 AM Report
the less people smoke the healthier we as a people are. healthier = less medical cost. 20% of people cost 80% of medical outlays and a big percentage is late in life. our big Medicare problem can be greatly alleviated if we have less people dragging around oxygen tanks because of emphysema, many of whom will get cancer and generate even higher cost to society. i care more about the person but from a financial equation the economic stimulus from the tobacco business doesn't make up for its cost. i wish we weren't still punishment/reward creatures, it's so hindbrain. for good uses of nicotine Google Targacept.
Ken Leebow 07/27/2008 04:15 PM Report
Irony at its best . . .
Yes, it is a good cause, however, our own government benefits from payments from the tobacco industry. Talk about mixed signals.
How about this idea: Make it a law to change the packaging. Next to the brand name, the packaging should have the words: GET CANCER with a picture of lungs with cancer. That might get the message across. And then, the 500-mil could be used for better causes.
MIke Logan 07/27/2008 01:06 AM Report
What about stopping marijuana smoking?
Hippie facisits
Irish 07/25/2008 10:52 AM Report
Travis, apparently we do. Sadly.
joan breibart 07/25/2008 10:43 AM Report
Bloomberg who was cigarette addicted for decades wants everyone to stop so he won't be in a social situation and be tempted. Gates has too much money and figure out how to spend it. Both may need to help the U.S. which is where they both made too much dough.
Travis 07/25/2008 12:37 AM Report
Let's get food to the starving first...can't we? in the mean time, I think we've all had the education of 'tobacco kills'...do we really need the elite telling us the same thing, again? Seems a waiste.
fastrunner 07/24/2008 03:26 PM Report
Kudos to these two leaders on tackling the greatest cause of preventable death and chronic disease in the U.S. and the world. It takes these kind of heavyweights to win the fight against the power of big tobacco.
sock puppet 07/24/2008 03:21 PM Report
TABS - spoken like a true American capitalist. "Are Americans ready for even bigger trade deficits, especially with the Chinese. American tobacco products are one of the bright spots of American foreign trade." ................................................................... They can harangue all they want about cigarettes as long as they leave the golden-goose, sacred-cow inviolate, namely all products of the M-I complex. My particular favorites, nukes and land mines. ..................................................... And then there's our euphemistic "collaterized debt obligations" (CDOs) peddaled around the world to share our peculiar brand of capitalistic misery. ...................................................... All of which should long-term drive up cigarette sales - as well as drugs of all stripes. ............................................... Cigarettes? A diversionary red herring by comparison. We're justifiably on a constant search to make us feel good about ourselves, probably because we suspicion deep down we know better. ...................................................................... Between the financial industry wise-guys and the M-I jingos, we just might give capitalism (at-all-costs, human or financial) a bad name.
TABS 07/24/2008 05:30 AM Report
It is so heart warming that Mr Bloomberg and Mr Gates are busy trying to save someone other than Americans for once. The world needs them to tell them what they should be doing and what they shouldn't. At the very least it will keep them occupied so that thy won't be pestering Americans anymore with their equivications.
TABS 07/24/2008 05:19 AM Report
Are Americans ready for even bigger trade deficits, especially with the Chinese. American tobacco products are one of the bright spots of American foreign trade.
ab irato 07/24/2008 01:05 AM Report
It's a phenominal difference that ranges through CEOs. Their brothers keeper aura through these two; versus their brothers rapers amongst financial services wise-guys. Long live the former. They're trying at least.
vladimir 07/23/2008 11:30 PM Report
How can we fight the global tobacco epidemic, if we still haven't won the fight in the U.S.?
Mary Elizabeth Nordstrom 07/23/2008 09:10 PM Report
It seems to be time to research what useful byproducts can be made from the easily cultivated tobacco plant other than cigarettes. I wondered about ethanol but was told it would put too much pollution in the air if made with tobacco instead of corn. Who has a better idea? America should stop shipping cancer causing cigarettes to countries that are still unaware.