A discussion about the iPhone 3G

with Steven Levy, Michael Arrington and Walter Mossberg
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A discussion about the iPhone 3G, with Walt Mossberg (WSJ), Michael Arrington (Techcrunch) and Steven Levy (Wired).

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    1. pjb  12/22/2008 11:58 PM Report

      Bigger picture here, most people will pass on these phones. In our society, computer terminals are everywhere, WIFI is everywhere, so an unnecessarily, unreasonably tiny computer is not the solution.

      I agree with Steven Levy, it is too early to know where this will go, notice he specifically mentions (despite all the hype) how all the iPhone penetration combined amounts to an insignificant amount of web traffic. What is it, 1%? Most webmasters and app developers will take the time to design for IE and Firefox because that's where most of the money is.

      Laptops are portable enough for most tech-savvy people, you just can't go much smaller, and this is proven by the response to netbooks. I believe Mike Arrington claims the iPhone's screen is better than a netbook he tried, but his argument is weak, and stronger, more diverse netbook offerings outnumber anything Apple can contend with.

      Would you redesign CharlieRose.com just for the iPhone, knowing it matters to less than 1% of the Internet? This is the iPhone's problem, not the Internet's problem. There's trillions of pages and 15 years worth of apps already out there, the web is the web. So web developers like myself can ignore this thing, because even if it climbs to 5% of all Internet browsing, its ultimate aim will always be to render everything exactly as a desktop/laptop would, because that is the reality of the Internet, the bulk of the information already out there.

      This is also why Microsoft Internet Explorer is impossible to ignore, and that will be the case for a very long time, whether or not geeks like it. It's preposterous to think you can build an app store and own the Internet, this late in the game, with an almost limitless number of apps already out there, coded over the years for ordinary (real) computers, in a numerous languages. If you're writing an app today, XHTML/Javascript with PHP/MySQL on the back-end is the most reasonable, most popular solution, and how you will reach the most people today, and far, far into the future.

    2. TechCrunch Fan  07/25/2008 04:08 AM Report

      More techcrunch! He just really knows his stuff.

    3. c s  07/24/2008 07:05 PM Report

      you didn't mention the ipod touch. it gets you on the internet and with att i don't pay anything extra for wireless connection.(saving--what did the guy say?? $2300 over 2 years). its 8G or 16G whatever that means if i need a phone i get 1000 minutes(200 bonus+ double min.)for $100 on tracphone. i, also am a light user of both.

    4. CJS  07/24/2008 04:26 PM Report

      This was a good analysis, I like Walt's point about investing in battery stocks. Mobile really is the future of computing.

    5. John  07/24/2008 03:32 PM Report

      Great interview and perspective from 3 industry experts. The discussion about applications was very good.

      Here is an essay discussing the application aspect of things.

      http://blackandwhiteprogram.com/essay/the-iphone-and-the-killer-app

    6. RE Mant  07/24/2008 12:07 AM Report

      On the other hand, when you realize you can't get any real work done talking on the phone, doing email and text msging all day long, you might want to just forget about getting one. I don't think, btw, Google is any better focused than Yahoo and Yahoo has recently done several very good things. I do think they are a little more moral than the others, which may be a drawback.