A discussion about Pakistan

with Mark Mazzetti, David Rohde and Aitzaz Ahsan
in Current Affairs
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A discussion about Pakistan with Aitzaz Ahsan, Mark Mazzetti and David Rohde.

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Pakistan
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Iraq
Musharraf
Osama bin Laden
Afghanistan
al Qaeda

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    1. writersblock25  12/21/2011 10:43 PM Report

      Thank you for posting this, Charlie Rose, LLC.

    2. Cmal  08/31/2008 03:07 AM Report

      This interview was brilliant. Really admire Mr. Ahsan for his work and effort. It would be great if Charlie could take another interview with Mr. Ahsan after Mushraff's resignation and ask about why Bhutto's widower will not restore the judges and why some of the judges who resigned in response to the chief justice went back to take the oath. I hope the movement is successful.

    3. Jennifer  08/13/2008 03:18 AM Report

      Musharraf ne Bush ko "ullu" banai hai 2001 se ab tak. (Musharraf has made Bush a fool since 2001).

    4. syed ali raza  08/04/2008 01:15 AM Report

      to the first commentator on this forum, i am not only appalled but also saddened by the sheer naivete displayed by this individual.

      Pakistan is run amok by radical Deobandis who have taken over every aspect of Pakistani society as in Army,ISI & the media & harbor immense resentment for Shia Muslims more than any one else, & to top it all we have this discredited individual known as Aitzaz Ahsan making rounds of USA to garner some support for his self serving agenda which has nothing to do with freedom of judiciary, if one wants to find out about what Aitzaz did in the past 2 governments of PPP it is not very difficult to see that this heinous individual was in fore front of subjugating the very judiciary he speaks so fondly of & it was his party which initiated the rise of Taliban in 1996, so please to all the people who think this person is some kind of Messiah: i hate to break it to u he is nothing more than a parasitical gutter creature who has sucked the life blood out of the Pakistani Society.

      it was also under his watch, that a decade long brutal army operation was unleashed on the citizens of Karachi resulting in 1000s of extra judicial killings.

      Musharaf's only sin is that he acted on his convictions to rid Pakistan of the extremist Deobandis who are to this day funded by the Wahhabi regime of SAUDI ARABIA.

      ppl like Aitzaz would be first ones to fly out of Pakistan when the Taliban run it over.

    5. shahrez  07/16/2008 01:10 AM Report

      I have just one question for all the intellectuals on this forum. How come no one ever points out at the terrorism coming out of USA. When I look at all the major events happening all over the world and look deep into the creation of all the malitias working all over, I see american funding and support for terror all the time. To name it, Talibanz are created and funded by USA. 911 was created and funded by USA. USA is providing all the funding and weapons to all so called freedom fighters in the world etc.

      Why u people of all colors n races n nationalities support " the most dangerous country in the world. " Its amazing to see how easy it is to control the Mass.

    6. syed ali raza  07/08/2008 10:27 PM Report

      the judges Aitzaz speaks of were the 1st ones in line to take the oath on the basis of PCO(provisional constitutional order) passed after the coup of 1999 which over threw the draconian Nawaz Govt, i do not understand how come Gutter Man Aitzaz does not speak up abt the Judges who refused to take the oath in 1999, but is more interested in reinstating a fellow Punjabi who took the PCO oath, while over stepping several senior judges who backed away from taking such oath, i challenge any one to debate me point to point on the validity of these so called heroic Judges,

      OPEN CHALLENGE

    7. Syed Ahsan Imam Rizvi  07/03/2008 01:56 AM Report

      i must say that Aitzaz Ahsan has putting forward the case of the deposed judges in a very positive way before the world and trying to convince the American administration that the restoration of judges is top priority of Pakistan and its peoples, let me add this point that before we have seen mostly religious minded and extremtist talked aganist America and its policies but since this Judges issue has arisen and the way American adminstration is dealing with it, hatred developed among the upper echelon and educated class of pakistanis aganist American polices and i believe that American administration should look into this matter from the angle of ordinary Pakistani for their own long term interest as once they are going to get the assitance of american administration for their cause the next time an ordinary pakistani will also stand for the casue of american interest in the region especially with regard to taliban and al qaeda.

    8. Shalom Freedman  07/02/2008 05:31 AM Report

      I suspect I am like most viewers pretty ignorant about the situation in Pakistan. Mr. Ahsan's demand for the reinstitution of judges dismissed by Musharaff sounds eminently reasonable. However I really know little about it, the background to it. I cannot say.

      From what the 'New York Times' reporters say it is clear they believe only with Ahsan that Musharaff is a 'heavy' and that the U.S. has made a mistake in supporting him.

      Billions of U.S. dolalrs which were to go to help fighting Al - Quaeda went into the hands of the corrupt.

      I would have liked Charlie Rose to ask more about what is expected in the near future for Pakistan- and about its nuclear program and the selling of its nuclear technology. And too about its geopolitical role in the Sunni-Shiite struggle.

      In any case however much learned from this conversation I felt it a very partial and limited one.

    9. JinnahFan  07/01/2008 11:33 PM Report

      Brilliant Aitzaz.

      The New York Times stooges were not very articulate. Frankly, blaming it all on Musharraf is a bit naive; do you really think they would give him a blank check? Also, the bit about Bush being manipulated on the phone by sly-fox Pervez is quite ridiculous and only shows the New York Times' stupidity in the caricaturization of the issue.

    10. Jamal  07/01/2008 11:01 PM Report

      Jaden, the deposed judges did not release terrorists.

      In fact, it was the OTHER judges -- the ones that gave a loyalty oath to Musharraf after he suspended the constitution -- that released the terrorists.

      The sad fact is that most Pakistanis support a moderate, Muslim democracy with the rule of law. They oppose Talibanization and would like to join the league of nations whose are fortunate to have good governance and democracy. Aitzaz is their voice.

    11. jaden  07/01/2008 10:00 PM Report

      Charlie, I was waiting for you to ask why Musharraf arrested the judges. I remember hearing a while back that it was because those judges released many (hundreds ?) of militants the army had in detention. I want to know if that is true, and if so, why did the judges do that and what is the significance to the subsequent events. If that is not true, then why?

    12. Damion  07/01/2008 07:28 PM Report

      If the shoe were on the other foot, and it was a famed attacker on Pakistan hidden away in a tribal region of the US what do you think the Pakistanis would say?

      If the tribal areas are not under control of the Pakistani central government can they then really be considered part of Pakistan anymore than say Alaska or Hawaii?

    13. inam   07/01/2008 06:56 PM Report

      Itzaz is a man he is realy and gentelman in Pakistan ..we wish he become a presedent of Pakistan

    14. Bacdaw  07/01/2008 12:11 PM Report

      Thank you Aitzaz Ahsan for making it so clear where the blunders are for US policy in Pakistan. The most HATED person in Pakistan, Musharraf, is supported by our president, and given billions of dollars to fight Al Qaeda, and when he arrests the judges (and their CHILDREN) nothing whatsoever is said. One of the reasons that Al Qaeda and the Taliban get support is swift justice. We take the rule of law here for granted, but it isn’t everywhere. The US has always supported and tolerated dictators over democracy (Iran, Guatamala, Indonesia...) and we hoped this was changing but it is not.

    15. TABS  07/01/2008 08:52 AM Report

      One last point needs to be addressed. Not only was it the Bush admin that took its "eyes off the ball" in Pakistan but also the US media as well.

    16. TABS  07/01/2008 08:45 AM Report

      Now we move on to Marzetti and Rohde. What ignorance of history was displayed by the comment that Pakistan needs to REASERT their control of the NW Tribal Areas. NO ONE since Alexander the Great has ever exerted any control of those areas, let alone Pakistan. This is the type of ignorance that causes misinterpretations which leads to miscalculations in policy making.....That said they were right in their conclusion that the Bush admin did become distracted by Iraq and relied on Musharraf to deal with Taliban and Al Qaeda in the area. However it is disingenuous to state that the USA had very many options with regard to the Pakistani leadership in the time frame being discussed. One has to also remember that it was the Bush Admin that helped broker the deal that brought Bhutto back to Pakistan.

    17. TABS  07/01/2008 08:35 AM Report

      Mr Ahsan was right on the message of promoting his agenda. That of bringing back the Judiciary in Pakistan. However one had to separate the wheat of useful information in his message from the chafe of rhetoric. As such give this interview a grade of "D."

    18. Ricardo Amaral  07/01/2008 03:31 AM Report

      The American people and the US mainstream media usually it takes forever to grasp even some very simple information. We have been discussing for years on this forum where Osama Bin Ladden has found a safe haven and the most probable place Al Qaeda will be able to get hold of nuclear weapons. You can find the answer to these questions on the following threads. Osama Bin Ladden. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1195914&highlight=Pakistan#post1195914

      North Korea's Nuclear Weapons

      http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1227400&highlight=Pakistan#post1227400