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A discussion about the war in Iraq on the five year anniversary of the invasion with Richard Engel of NBC News via Baghdad.
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- Iraq
- New York Times
- NBC
- war
- troop surge
- Saddam Hussein
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K Ackermann 06/05/2008 04:06 AM Report
Richard Engal was a dismal guest. His corporate shill was showing badly.
Wow! He can go to a Chinese restaurant now. He was just another hack holed up in the Green Zone taking his notes from the Pentagon and other handlers.
Honestly, what insight did he offer on anything? If you had face time with Charlie Rose, and you wanted to promote a book, I would think you might want to say something interesting.
You could see him distilling his answers into pablum. When is the media going to learn?
Go look at Glen Greenwald's column at Salon.com if you want interesting information.
Charlie Rose could bring the house down if he looked at the May 30 Greenwald column and followed up on the people behind the links that start there.
It would never be allowed.
Cecilia Bravo Mittmann 03/27/2008 09:20 PM Report
There is no winners to a war, the reality is that when this conflict is over, when the merchants of greed calculate that is more profitable move their ambitions to another arena, we will see that this nations has suffered as much as those that we were taught by the system to call our enemies. In the meantime we will always have those who see "la vie in rose" with their implecable white gloves to serve us semi-digested news, for the enjoyment of the Jane's Anderson of the world.
Alice 03/22/2008 11:36 PM Report
Charlie do you really think there is anyone left that gives a damn about what Richard Perle thinks about Iraq, or anything else?
Perle should be charged with treason and join his friend Pollard for several life-terms.
Shaft 03/22/2008 01:36 AM Report
Charlie, Richard Engel's side was good to digest and compare with other facts, although it is true there has not been progress in the political front but his analysis of what would happen if the US was to leave in 8-moths time is very flawed. If the US is not leaving in 8-months then when will it leave? The Iraqis are not used to being democratic in their culture and they would require security from the US for another 100 years should the US continue to provide it. Which country wouldn't wanna have US's military power do the policing for it if the offer was available? the questions you ask are not right, and the answer Richard gave was even more wrong. The presence of the US continue to give Iraqi Shiit the comfort to mis behave and not compromise. Start drawing back and you will see them filling the gap using all the necessary elements to create peace. I think the time to draw back slowly was supposed to begin yesterday.
Donald Mark Garringer 03/21/2008 04:50 PM Report
I enjoyed your conversation with Dr. Richard Perle. However, at some point, you should forebear from flights of fantasy and talk about reality in your forum. The region that was formerly Iraq is divided into three states with borders, barricades and checkpoints. There is Kurdistan in the north, Sunnistan in the west, and Shiastan in the south. These three states are associated in the Greater Trashcanistan - a network of corruption with U.S. and local actors fueled by the U.S. Treasury and theft of local oil.
If we are to maintain this status quo for the next one hundred years, we must immediately stop-loss the return of active-duty U.S. personnel stationed in the region. We can give them tours of duty in the region for 100 years, 200 years, and 300 years, like convicted felons with multiple life sentences.
charlize courriers 03/21/2008 04:22 PM Report
Richard's amazing freudian slip at 7:43 into the interview...and I asked him "Is victory possible in the U.S." pretty much sums up the problem-we are winning the war in IRAQ, but the liberal deadenders in the US can't get over it!!! Five years ago the American Armed Forces lifted the tyrannical regime off the people of Iraq only to reveal a centuries old religious war that simmers away thoughout the region and world at large. Within this war is the even older war on women. Not to mention all infidels. But now the cover is gone and the whole world watches. When will liberals give up their fantasies of a perfect war for a perfect world(headquartered in NYC) and see Muslin history for what it is?
Gregory Bownik 03/21/2008 04:55 AM Report
I think more emphasis needs to be placed on the ideal phases of peacekeeping and peacebuilding. These phases are described by former US army generals Joulwan and Shoemaker and discussed in brief detail by Garland Williams in his book entitled, Engineering Peace: The Military Role in Postconflict Reconstruction.
Transformation phase: a legitimate government must be established; police, judicial and penal systems must be imposed; essential social services must be provided; and there needs to be a return to normal economic activity.
Stabilization phase: the legitimate government is charged with maintaining internal stability; legitimate political institutions are created; a responsive public health system is established; and internal police capacity is reconstructed.
Normalization phase: external forces are withdrawn; the judicial system is operated by local judges; basic services are provided by the local government; the economic base is stable; and the host nation exercises self government.
If Peerle and Kagan used this criteria as a measure for peacebuilding then maybe they would not be as confident in their descriptions of success in Iraq. It seems obvious that the transformation phase has not been managed well after five years of attempted peacemaking. Consequently, the first stages of peacebuilding need to be dealt with if progress is ever to occur.
Gregory Bownik
Bill Roberts 03/21/2008 04:09 AM Report
Why anyone would give Perle the time of day, let alone yet another podium for spouting his lies is beyond me. Shame on you Charlie. The neo-cons are so lacking in credibility at this point in time that it contributes nothing--zero--to the public debate. Stop letting them continue to have their 15 destructive minutes of notariety.
JR 03/21/2008 03:59 AM Report
It's utterly disgusting, sickening, and outrageous to watch these bloated, smug, and conceited war criminals and windbag supporters bask from afar along with Charlie Rose (in his sycophantic, vicarious enjoyment and exultation) in American imperialism and state sponsored mass murder. Charlie Rose's hands and those of these neo-con intelligensia are bathed in the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, and no amount of denial and disavowal will wash away the stains on their souls. But then again, these evil and hollow men, who from the safe and comfortable distance of the television studio gleefully and drunkenly revel in and justify the power and glory of waging imperial, preemptive wars of aggression, have no consciences and no more care for their souls than they have for the lives of those Iraqis that they've ravaged, destroyed, and plundered.
Mike 03/21/2008 12:05 AM Report
Perle is as much of a war criminal as Bush and Cheney. Why is Charlie cutting him so much slack? He is still trying to justify the illegal invasion and occupation based on indirect linkage between Hussein and Al Qaeda. He completely lacks credibility. He should be sent to the World Court and tried alongside Bush, Cheney, Rice and others.
Peg 03/20/2008 11:55 PM Report
Perle and Kagan. Unctuous, self-serving hypocrites.
jaycel adkins 03/20/2008 11:43 PM Report
No offense to everyone and the subject matter, but when are you going to FINALLY show the Thomas Keller interview. I've seen it listed over several days the past two weeks. Please show it!!!
Jane Anderson 03/20/2008 01:44 AM Report
Wow, what an enducational and enlightening program to "celebrate" the 5 year anniversary of the Iraq war on 3-19-08. Of all the programs I viewed this night, Charlies was the ONLY ONE to not just interview the usual pundits and biased journalists (or on PBS-rather ignorant or biased U.S. citizens). I really appreciated the interviews of Mr. Gelb, the two former Iraq citizens, and Mr.. Packer. Oh to live in New York and be able to go to his play, or even to talk to educated people every day. I still love my peace on this hillside viewing the West Elk Wilderness in Colorado though, and Charlie will understand this. He has the best of 3 worlds, New York, Paris, and Aspen. Thanks, Jane Anderson