A conversation with William F. Buckley, Jr.

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A conversation with William F. Buckley, Jr. about his life, career and book Cancel Your Own Goddam Subscription.

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    1. Scott  09/25/2008 01:06 AM Report

      Watching and reading William F. Buckley as a teenager in the 80s had a significant influence on my political perspective. I truly enjoyed your tribute to him. Thanks for airing this.

    2. Joe  03/24/2008 09:24 AM Report

      The world lost a great mind. Buckley could both speak well and write well, which is lacking in many of the people who we consider great today. Whether you agreed with his arguments or not, you couldn't argue with the sound reasoning behind them.

    3. hrc  03/05/2008 11:37 PM Report

      I have never been big on tv, and rarely if ever watched it, but somehow I found firing line and became a fierce devotee. Much later I found the charlie rose show. To date those are the only shows I ever watched. I will never forget Mr. Buckley as he showed me how to open my mind, to engage the world in conversation. I watch charlie rose a bit more selectively thanks to tivo devices, but I watch him as he carries on the conversation. The first time I saw the charlie rose show Mortimer Alder was on, again instantly hooked.

      Mr. Buckley was a rare presence on this planet and I'm sure will be missed by many. Charlie please take care of yourself.

    4. TuskPDX  03/04/2008 12:43 AM Report

      As a young teenager in Ohio, I shelved books of Mr. Buckley's many an afternoon in our local library. I often dreamed of having a father that would take me sailing, as was often quite his theme, this all before I was overly familiar with American politics. His son's name was mine.

      As I grew older, I saw he and Pat more and more as social icons of a generation of selfish self consumption. Perhaps that is too harsh, though to me, that is what the American Conservative party has taken no pains to hide.

      Yet, it was touching to see Charlie clearly connecting in his heart with the loss of his friend. I really think this is rare quality in American television when I can watch and feel true honesty coming from a correspondent about a subject he has grown to understand and to love. We document the human condition in many ways. It is a beautiful thing.

    5. Maria Abella  03/02/2008 01:28 PM Report

      Dear Charlie Rose:

      Thank you so much for your tribute to WFB.

      I guess I was about 10 or 11 when a stumbled upon Firing Line, and I was hooked. I probably did not understand much at the time, but I knew it was important, and interesting.

      It was very poignant to hear him saw he was ready to die, however, I was not ready for his death.

    6. eki-man  02/29/2008 10:08 PM Report

      i suppose if i have the urge to vomit on friday night i can watch this interview if the chemical or finger gag option is not appealing at the moment.

      hard to find a less appealing person than william f buckley jr....just look at the title of his book. what a mean spirited hack he is.

      i can't imagine how physically unpleasant it must be to have to converse with such a nasty SOB face to face.

      he is the kind of person who takes joy in grinding his heel into the upturned face of a helpless person lying in the road.

    7. Den  02/29/2008 06:23 PM Report

      Here is a classical example of Wernicke's encephalopathy, which has turned the unfortunate man's brain into a spongy mass, full of holes. JFB's former acuteness has become dull repetitions of conservative and cruel slogans that sound even more ugly when slovenly gurgled from this precious mouth that was fed with a silver spoon. Isn't it time to retire these old white men, like Buckley, Kissinger, Podhoretz, Kristol and others?

    8. Harriet San  02/28/2008 09:08 PM Report

      I teared-up throughout the show. I had enjoyed Mr.Buckley's columns and television programs since I was a teen. I frequently disagreed with him, but always appreciated his erudition. Now there was a man. Thank you Mr. Rose for your tribute. I enjoyed it as much as Mr.Moyers' conversations with Joseph Campbell.

    9. Hank V.  02/28/2008 05:29 PM Report

      In Holland, my father died at the same age as Mr. Buckley and due to the same illness.

      Mr. Buckley's remark to the extent that the

      biggest enemies of old men are young physicians

      who want life to be going and going....

      struck me as remarkable. 3 Weeks before his death, my father with just 6 years elementary grade school, but with the wisdom of the Ages sat down with his very young physician, who briefly examined him and told my father that he recommended a more thorough checkup in a hospital. My father looked at the young doctor and told him: "Look doctor, you young physicians HAVE to accept one thing in life and

      that is that all things, no matter what, will come to an end. For me that end is 'now'.

      So, let us forget about that...expensive... hospital and let the candle slowly go out"

      Now, doctor, if you like, you can stay for a cup of coffee" ! ! !

      =============================================

    10. Gloria Valentino  02/28/2008 06:34 AM Report

      I had not heard of Mr. Buckley's passing but when I saw the show last night I surmised that was the reason you were showing previous interviews. You were lucky to call him friend and your closing remarks were beautiful and a reminder to all of us to GO SAILING WITH A FRIEND WHEN WE GET A CHANCE - you must do that Mr. Rose - there is a beautiful quote from The Little Prince - I hope it brings you comfort at this time - "In one of the star I shall be living - In one of them I shall be laughing and so it will be as if all the stars were laughing when you look at the sky at night.

      Thank you for the beautiful show in honor of Mr. Buckley - we have lost someone that cannot be replaced in this world.

    11. Luis Orellana  02/28/2008 03:41 AM Report

      Thank you Charlie, this was indeed quite a sad day. What a way to learn that not always there is a tomorrow, at least for some and eventually for all of us.

      Luis Orellana

    12. Bill Allen  02/28/2008 03:04 AM Report

      Charlie, I very much appreciated your heartfelt tribute to William F Buckley tonight. I have always greatly respected Mr. Buckley and was especially touched by the sincere ending of your show tonight. Thanks for sharing your heart to this giant-of-a-man!

    13. Joanna  02/28/2008 01:21 AM Report

      Charlie, the clips meant so much to me tonight. He became one of my intellectual heroes early on after I graduated from college in the 60's. We looked forward to seeing him on BBC and so enjoyed his wit and caustic remarks, which were so on the mark. It was good to see the rapport and friendship you and Bill so obviously shared. It warmed my heart to hear what he did when you were near death (I'm sure he joined me in praying for you daily). When I read in the National Review of his dear Pat's death I felt that he wouldn't be far behind. With tears I thank you, Charlie, for this special remembrance.

    14. Jeff Sova  02/28/2008 01:00 AM Report

      Dear Charlie,

      I appreciated your tribute to William F. Buckley Jr. very much. He was an eloquent, insightful, and persuasive writer and speaker. I always thought he would make a great lawyer. I watch your show 2-4 times a week and am a big fan. I think you're the best interviewer on TV along with Bill Moyers. Mr. Buckley will be missed, and I could see that in your closing words tonight. Thank you Mr. Rose.

      Regards,

      Jeff Sova

    15. Robert maloney  01/07/2008 05:02 PM Report

      I've had the great fortune to spend much of my adult life,admiring Wm F.And have enjoyed oh so many of his books,From Saving the Queen toCancel your own damned subscription.To me Mr Buckley is "FAMILY" cherished FAMILY...But the fact is ...he And I are getting older...and slower..An acceptable fact of life..Some of his best stuff was his books on sailing and cruises he has made..These showed me the MAN...Bill Buckley.I celebrate his life,and it's impact on the world...Bob Maloney P.S. Thank you Charlie!..

    16. Shalom Freedman  01/06/2008 07:33 AM Report

      I do not know if it is polite to say the obvious. The Buckley we see now is a man struggling with illness, and however still admirable- diminished.

      As to substance I was surprised by a certain naievete in the whole presentation. Why didn't Buckley dare to use the 'Iran word? and speak of its impending nuclear threat? Why didn't he speak about the one- hundred dollar barrel of oil, and our Saudi friends preaching Anti- Americanism throughout the world?

      Charlie Rose is simply wrong in thinking that Islamism is the aberration of a minority within the larger Islamic world. 'Islamism' is an extremist modern form of a fanaticism which is inherent in a world - view that places first- value on military- conquest. See Lee Harris, Bernard Lewis, Samuel Huntington, Bruce Bawer, Melanie Phillips, Mark Steyn, Daniel Pipes, Barry Rubin, Robert Spenser, David Pryce - Jones, and many others.

      One more major point. Why didn't Mr. Buckley speak about Western Civilization rather than Christian civilization? Does he want to keep the post- Christian Europeans out? Admittedly there lost of their Christian faith has made them a more problematic ally. Still our Civlization is based not simply on the Biblical and Christian legacy, but also on the contribution of Greco-

      Roman civlization and most especially on the Scientific Revolution.

      One of the reasons the West is in trouble is because it is suffering a value- crisis in which the European contingent no longer believes Freedom have to be fought for , but comes for free. ( with the United States footing the bill)

      In any case Buckley is an old grand- master and Rose is to be commended for treating him with such respect and affection. Few are the men of ideas who change the way of thought of their time. And Buckley in his more lonely early days was one of them.

    17. Carol J  01/04/2008 09:01 AM Report

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLIE, ENJOY YOUR DAY SATURDAY

      JAN. 5TH. ARE YOU GOING TO BE IN WYOMING VOTING????????????

    18. jd  01/01/2008 03:19 PM Report

      Dear Mr. Buckley, You are wrong when you say this country is a Christian country. Our first Christian president, John Adams, wrote, â??As the government of the United States of American not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion...â?? Just because there has always been a majority of Christians in America does no mean it is a Christian country. Our fourth president, James Madison, warned against the â??tyranny of the majorityâ??. Also, Mr. Buckley, I have never understood why Republicans insist there can be no â??freeâ?? health care in America. Republicans insist that our Constitution only â??provides for the common defenseâ?? of the people. However, there is a phrase the appears in the Preamble before that one that reads, â??ensure domestic tranquillity,â?? and a phrase after it that reads, â??promote the general welfare.â?? A definition of tranquillity is ease of mind and body. If a person has a disease, that person has no tranquillity. A synonym of welfare is well-being. If a person is sick, that person has no well-being. Therefore, our Constitution requires the federal government to provide health care to the people.

    19. Marc  01/01/2008 12:52 PM Report

      Charlie - Consider doing a two-hour interview with Buckley soon. Please don't wait too long and offer a thirty minute montage of sound bites from him on the show after his demise. Of the many guests you've had for one hour and two hour programs, he would certainly rate to be considered. Thank you.

    20. Jeff  01/01/2008 10:18 AM Report

      Hey, Sharon from December 30th....maybe, just maybe, you got put on a list for psychos because you do, in fact (at least here), come across like a psycho. Incidently, I reported you for language for the "F America" comment---not because of your opinion, but for your word choice. This place is for the expression of enlightened opinion--not mung-mouthed paranoid ramblings. Use of obscenity to express a thought shows a weak mind, honey. Try gingko biloba.

    21. jon peters  01/01/2008 08:25 AM Report

      WFB,

      Please... no one is saying health care should be free. What is most economic is single payer.

      7% of the health care dollar vs 30% for HMO.

      100% coverage vs 70%. Facts is Facts more or less.

    22. Stan Jones  12/31/2007 11:51 PM Report

      This is just the kind of attitude that has brought shame to America. This cavalier talk of middle east oil -- as if just taking it is the Christian thing to do. As though we have a God-given right. He says: "We want oil because it is a very useful and natural substance. But we also want it because it permits us live the kind of life we choose to lead." So our deep Christian motivations make it okay? So you admit it's about oil?

    23. Travis  12/31/2007 09:13 PM Report

      Oh. Come on! It's Buckley! Leave the pretentiousness at the door after all...it's charlie rose people. You would think you'd learn a thing or two. HA!

    24. Dan F.  12/31/2007 12:26 AM Report

      The main hypocrisy I noted in Buckley's points was his suggestion that it was OK for the U.S. and it's deep Christian motivational roots to take the oil of Iraq by force. As I remember he merged his point about the deep and motivating Christian morals with "our way of life". This seems a very sloppy glomming together of profound and meaningful moral Christian ideas and ideals like "love your neighbor" and "all are created equal" with base and immoral behaviors and addictions of a consumerist culture that runs on cheap oil. It seems that Buckley and Bush and similar folks have it backwards - if we are to be true to Christian morals and even democratic ideals, we'd be MORE generous and giving and LESS inclined to take other's oil by illegal and immoral violent force. Pretty sad form of doublespeak...sad in that they seem to believe somehow they are on the side of good and even God.

    25. Tim  12/30/2007 09:14 PM Report

      It is unfortunate that so many slam Buckley for his halting affect and style he exhibits in his deliveries. Sure, he smacks superficially of elitisim but surley only the naive would expect such a classsic and informed intellectual to deliver opinion like a network anchor person. Get over his style and focus on his wide and yet precise command of so many inciteful historical perspectives so well juxtaposed against present day politcal actors and moralists graffling with an America in economic decline and world in alarming disorder. For Buckley, order and style matters most but yet he still esteems authentic non-intellectual warriors like Reagan. His standards are high so he concedes so little to accutley struggling under classes and unabashedly knows he could never have been an office holder for those reasons alone. See him only for what he is, an informed alter ego.

    26. Richard King  12/30/2007 08:34 PM Report

      When will the 12/28/07 Buckley interview video be available?

      Thanks,

      -Rich

    27. Carol J  12/29/2007 09:45 PM Report

      Charlie & staff what happened to the Comment section inre: Dr. Carpentier and C. Venter? I also noticed missing earlier but not sure which program. I had to put this comment under Buckley because the other screens were blank.

    28. Eduardo  12/29/2007 11:25 AM Report

      Memento... I was under the impression that in a so-called democracy, we all matter. But then, while Buckley talks about Democracy and its roots in Christianity, his political philosophy and the policies that follow from it, are closer to an Oligarchic Social Darwinism.

    29. Carol J  12/29/2007 08:24 AM Report

      Hey Cookie, was your reply to me. Where did I say you offended me? Just being curious or nosey whichever way you see it. Stay out of trouble.

    30. Dan  12/29/2007 06:39 AM Report

      Jill Nora must be a nutcase if all she has to bitch about is the size of the screen.Clearly there are more important things in life.

    31. Memento  12/29/2007 03:05 AM Report

      Funny that most of these previous comments are from people looking at the Charlie Rose site. Buckley is much admired by Rose and they are friends.

      But then as it is said, the internet is the biggest collection of people who think they matter. I would be surprised if many of the previous writers ever had anyone, in their entire lives, who cared what they thought. Cheers.

    32. Martin Mendelsberg  12/29/2007 01:30 AM Report

      Mr. Buckley is one of the most convoluted communicators of the last century. In this century one wonders if his lack of communication is the result of senility.

    33. Eduardo  12/29/2007 01:15 AM Report

      Medicare is a bad idea? The market could do a better job? Cheaper? Buckley is an arrogant sneering dinosaur.

      Every other developed nation has a health care system covering ALL citizens... not just those that might not obviously cut into the profits of the health care "industry"; and those systems still do it much cheaper than we do.

      I would have liked to see a discussion between Naomi Klein and Bill Buckley. Her nuanced understanding of economics and the role of government was an enlightened contrast to the Capitalist Fundamentalism of Buckley.

    34. Cookie  12/28/2007 11:48 PM Report

      well I am sorry that my visits offend you. I'll make myself scarce.

    35. eki-man  12/28/2007 11:29 PM Report

      well now......i tuned in just in time for the witty wise conservative to

      say that medicare was a bad thing....followed by stony silence.

      that was a defining moment right there.

      principals linked to local government and "state's rights" (the original pro slavery position) mean nothing if you can simply use them to disavow one of the true successes of modern american society with a simple "no".

      principal means less than nothing if it is not backed up by simple humanity and compassion. otherwise principal becomes useless dogma.

      i'm sure when mr buckley was busy combating integration and civil rights and other menaces to establishment stability he sounded just as confident in his position.....as he was when he was hurling anti gay hate speech in the sixties.

      ok...i've wasted enough finger energy on this monster.

    36. Carol J  12/28/2007 07:26 PM Report

      Hi Cookie, This is the only screen I have access. If you have Flash Player, or whatever it is called,you may be in a better position than I am. Cookie I notice you leave a number of comments is your alias Charlie Rose or is he paying you. I noted someone thought you were Bill Clinton. Have fun.

    37. coooooookie  12/28/2007 06:10 PM Report

      Carol J - you cant make it full screen - right? Like on NBC.com?

    38. Karl K  12/28/2007 03:50 PM Report

      There you go!. Dial back the acidic dialogue, add some actual examples of his "right wing reactionary point of view" and you have your self a reasonable argument. Above all watch your temper, it reveals too much about you and not enough about your argument.

      I would note, generally the most primitive right wing perspective is that government (bureaucracy) is a bloody mess and incapable of providing efficient_____ (healthcare, social security, welfare, etc.) Many find this discussion palatable because there is truth to it. This does not mean conservatives do not feel concern for the "weak". Rather, they feel the federal government should not be obliged to provide the support structure (I recommend the Federalist Papers). The more localized the government, the better.

      Good Luck!

    39. Carol J  12/28/2007 03:50 PM Report

      To Jill Nora, the words More Info appear to the right of the small picture on some screens.

      Other screens the words More Info appear below.

      Click on More Info and a larger picture pops up. Use the arrow down on the right of your screen to raise the picture until you see an arrow in the left corner of the picture click on it and the video starts. There is a scale on the bottom that runs the entire time the video is running. It will give you the length the video is to run and and how it has been running. If for some reason you have to leave your computer for a minute, click on tne arrow to stop it until you return. Should you have to shutdown write the time down and start there the next time. Go to the top of these comments and see the size the picture will be.

    40. show some respect!  12/28/2007 03:29 PM Report

      Hey, when you are 107 you've earned the right to be cranky. I generally isagree with all his opinions and yet cant help feeling a measure of affection. Funny, aint it?

    41. eki-man  12/28/2007 03:01 PM Report

      what is there to debate?

      have you ever heard this guy talk before?

      again...read simply the title of his book....it is blatantly hostile. basically....agree with me or (*&^ off. that is his philosophy.

      his philosophy is....i am all that is strong, right (in more ways than one), and christian about america and all who disagree with my right wing reactionary point of view are weak and worthy of being cast aside with complete contempt.

      seriously....he has a decades long history as a bigot and professional and shameless defender of the wealthy and powerful....not to mention a passionate defender of the vietnam war among MANY other unwise positions.

      to top it off is his nauseating snobbish upper class affect....really nasty stuff. He would have made an ideal aristocrat....his manner is practically a parody of disdainful upper class sneering.

      he has cultivated this whole package into a professional career....basically he is just rush limbaugh without the drug addiction, weight problem, or limited vocabulary. in fact limbaugh is one of his most vocal supporters. they are kindred souls indeed.

      buckley has used his much lauded "wit" to disguise the fact that he has a history of advocating the most primitive right wing perspective in an attempt to disarm his adversary and make his position SEEM more palatable.

      recent (admirable) doubts/reversals about the war on drugs and the war in iraq do not erase the last 50 years of discredited positions.

      ug.

    42. SR  12/28/2007 02:51 PM Report

      On the contrary, Mr. Buckley is a gentleman and a scholar.

    43. Karl K  12/28/2007 02:39 PM Report

      Somebody read Eki-man's post and tell me who the "mean spirited hack" really is.

      Do some research, provide some insight, analysis, make conclusions. By making an educated argument, you may convince others. The current statement only leaves me to believe Eki-man has recieved no proper (formal or informal) education.

      Bring something to the table with your debate!

    44. Jill Nora  12/28/2007 01:06 AM Report

      Why no FULL SCREEN mode for the shows????

      All competition offers this, but you are so greedy that you give us loyal viewer a 2 inch window to see it, and no rewind or forward feature.