A discussion about the fall television season

with Ken Tucker, Matt Roush, Tom Shales and Bill Carter
in Movies, TV & Theater
on Thursday, November 15, 2007 * * * * *

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A discussion about the fall television season with Tom Shales of The Washington Post, Ken Tucker of Entertainment Weekly, Matt Roush of * TV Guide and Bill Carter of The New York Times*

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    1. Cookie hearts Alec  09/22/2008 09:30 PM Report

      Hurrah! Alec won an Emmy. Way to go, Alec!

    2. Iqbal Faizer  11/19/2007 04:54 AM Report

      I am dismayed that none of these critics have even mentioned the brilliance and unprecedented political insight and dramatic realism of the new Battlestar Galactica. It's the best and smartest show on TV! The stand alone TV movie "Razor" will air this Saturday November 24th on Sci Fi at 9pm, and I hope you'll all check it out.

      To review their reviewed shows! "Heroes" is the most cliche, formulaic, commerical garbage I've ever seen, sketchily moving through false dramatic motions as a pause between nonsensical action and sensationalism. The problem is not too many heroes; the basic premise and characters are superficial and without consistency. "Grey's Anatomy" isn't getting bad; it's always been sleazy, sensationalistic and cheap with phoney conveniently light-hearted moments; "Private Practice" is surely as bad or worse, though. There's no emotional realism. "30 Rock", "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and "The Office" are enjoyable enough, especially Alec Baldwin on "30 Rock", but they lack the subtlety of the first 6 years of "Seinfeld" and the first several years of "Cheers". They're so trendy with their eccentric ridiculousness that none of the humor comes from realism or relatable situations -- only from the preposterous. "Curb" has always suffered from Larry's idiocy and stretched the misunderstanding and mean-spiritedness of those around him to put the main character in a persecuted position; it's always made me more uncomforably upset and annoyed than left me with laughs, so I've never been eager to watch it. The main problem with Katie Couric isn't a matter of persentation or charm, but her morning news roots. She's a superficial nationalist conveying stories in a superficially nationalistic way. "Now" and "The Journal" are the best US news shows. Canada's CBC puts all American news to shame. Lastly, I'll thank the man from Entertainment Weekly who spoke up for the freshness of Mr. Craig Ferguson in late night stand up; he's the only comedy talk show host who comes across as honest, while David Letterman has really been "phoning it in" since the early '90s! I noticed that EW's Ken Tucker and TV Guide's Matt Roush have both written glowingly of Battlestar Galactica. It's too bad they couldn't speak up for this unappreciated show. I wish I were a TV critic sometimes...

    3. StevenCee  11/17/2007 03:00 PM Report

      I kept wondering how odd it was to have a moderator leading a discussion about a subject(s) he obviously knew absolutely nothing about....

      It's perfectly understandable he doesn't watch pop tv, but why attempt to discuss it: I found it comical watching him frantically perusing the TV listings, throwing out shows at random.....

    4. disbelief  11/17/2007 01:11 AM Report

      My, my a less than democratic editor? saw fit to expunge my offering re the sorry state of our commercial tv, suggesting the writers strike has to be a blessing. Merely reinforces the sorry state of fair now even into PBS with such high-handed hubris. The mindless commercials and equally mindless progamming deserve nothing but the off button. The worst book ever written surpasses the puerile Pablum on commercial todays tv. A comment request section should contain a wide range without editing short of being luridly obscene. Elstwise what's the point. Expected better.

    5. PS  11/16/2007 10:57 PM Report

      How come there was no talk about the writers' strike? That's one of the biggest entertainment news stories around (as well as one of the biggest business news stories). I totally thought that's what this interview would be about. Come on, Charlie. Get some of the WGA head people and some studio execs on your show!

    6. Lorraine  11/16/2007 05:31 PM Report

      This must have been taped before the Writers strike. The fate of the fall season is dependent upon the new WGA contract.

    7. Cookie hearts Alec  11/16/2007 03:22 PM Report

      When I remember, I watch tv on my pc. I think it is pretty cool- there isnt anything except the newshour that I HAVE to watch as it is first broadcast. My fav is 30roc - I think that Alec Baldwin's scene pretending to be Tracy's family members belongs in the tv hall of fame. Classic.

    8. Susan McCormick  11/16/2007 01:21 PM Report

      How refreshing! Another panel of middle-aged white guys opining on the state of our culture, this time the current TV line-up.

    9. marguerite zalkalns  11/15/2007 11:48 PM Report

      Re: Ch Rose on TV programs:

      My distress, this season more than ever, is over the terrible choices available. And the monotony of 'same' type shows (Crime, 'Drs', 'Reality', Slapstick comedy and such) available. I'm excluding PB f rom my comments.

      --- All detective/crime shows are not created equal. Some are nothing but gore and violence, and worse, violence against women, which only fuels the perverts at large.

      Shows that stand up, entertain and keep ones attention are CSI-Miami (but not CSI-NY), the old Law & Order (not special victims, etc.) and some Crimilal Minds, sometimes (but very bad: Wom.Murder Club) Don't like, Bones, Heroes and others, gruesome...

      Last year ABC had some vinnersL Ugly Betty, Men in Trees, 6 deg..... Ugly Betty fell on its face this season, they completely missed what was good and charming about the show.

      The Cavemen don't even get one vote from me. Neither do :Pushing Daisies or Carpool.

      I delight once a week in MenInTrees!***, I hope it lives (much better than NorthernExposure once was!) I'm sorry they dropped 6 degreees, that too had a delightful touch.....

      Reality shows are a nightmare, they are artificial, contrived and un natural. For one brief momment KidNation had a chance, but then they made $$$ the main atraction, they lost me there.

      Why can't we have a sane and inspiring variety of entertaining programs, without gore, fright or visible violence and ba language, and only bad scripts. Why??? M.Z., WV