The Charlie Rose Science Series: Obesity & Nutrition

with Marion Nestle, Gina Kolata, Paul Nurse, David Ludwig and Rudy Leibel
in Science & Health
on Monday, June 25, 2007 * * * * *

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The panel discusses the rise in obesity in the US, along with its accompanying health concerns, such as type 2 diabetes. A number of obesity experts voice their opinions on the best measures to prevent further weight increases and to treat the existing health concerns.

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    1. Jeffrey Jones  07/01/2008 03:39 PM Report

      Charlie,

      Please don't cheapen your talent by getting involved with 60 minutes.

    2. mariah  12/12/2007 08:38 AM Report

      i would like to know more of why people gain weight and what is the study of them.

    3. lisa barr  07/03/2007 04:43 AM Report

      A very good show as all of your shows! I see so many very heavy children in the super market, stores, etc. What should be the role of the public schools when these children are in the classroom and cafeteria? The children look as though no one at home is paying any attention to diet or exercise?

    4. Chris Chalfant  07/03/2007 04:23 AM Report

      I found the panel discussion regarding obesity quite fascinating. There are so many ways that we can look at the problems of obesity, and I think it is wonderful that there is so much effort being put into addressing this problem. While I am impressed with Dr. Leibelâ??s knowledge regarding the topic of obesity, I am quite disturbed about his comments toward the end of the show regarding the use of drugs to solve obesity problems (as well as others). While drugs can certainly be of use in extreme cases, they should never be the first method of addressing this or any other health problems. Prevention and attention to oneâ??s own health and wellness (or oneâ??s familyâ??s health and wellness) should always be in the forefront of the agenda, not quick fixes by doctors and the drug industry.

      I believe it is the mindset of the American public that we must defer and relinquish our power and ability to take charge of our own wellness to doctors and pharmaceuticals, rather than take responsibility for our own health. I would be interested in hearing the results of studies on obesity in countries such as India or Japan or China, where obesity is barely an issue and the countries are not ruled by the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries.

      Chris Chalfant

    5. lisa barr  06/27/2007 09:30 PM Report

      A very good show as all of your shows! I see so many very heavy children in the super market, stores, etc. What should be the role of the public schools when these children are in the classroom and cafeteria? The children look as though no one at home is paying any attention to diet or exercise?

    6. don warner saklad  06/27/2007 11:04 AM Report

      . Rethinking Thin by Gina Kolata

      . Ending the Food Fight by David Ludwig

      . What to Eat by Marion Nestle

    7. Hal Sampson  06/27/2007 02:20 AM Report

      Another trend likely affecting obesity is increased stress levels, partly due to population pressures on world job markets, college admissions, etc., which also manifests in religious and other conflicts (Palestine, 9/11, Iraq, Bush vs. coastal U.S., ...). Stress causes the body to add fat in anticipation of lean times ahead.

      Also, flu shots and the control of fever with antipyretics have reduced the disease induced weight loss of a pound or so every year that we used to suffer through.

      These factors might explain why adolescents and the elderly are seeing the largest increases in adiposity.

    8. don warner saklad  06/26/2007 10:29 PM Report

      What are the titles of the books mentioned at the end of the broadcast?... email dsaklad@zurich.csail.mit.edu

    9. irwin m sternberg  06/26/2007 09:26 PM Report

      I enjoy most of your shows and find them very much to the point and very enlightning. The one on obesity inspite of the very qualified panel seemed to not want to discuss the main reason for the ongoing epidemic of obesity that exists in this country and will eventually spread to the rest of the world. Our genes evolved 50,000 years back to the beginning of life. All animal life forms have pretty much the same physiology which includes insulin. Man is the only one that has been able to manipulate his food source so that we know have a constant source of varied and unlimited quantities of carbohydrates as a mainstay of our diet. 20,000 years ago before agriculture came on the scene carbohydrates were the rarity in the diet and still are for other animas in nature. We are 100% efficient in the use of carbs because we developed insulin to constantly remove any excess from our blood stream and convert it to lipids to be stored as fat for future energy needs. In the youn insulin also converts carbs to protein which is why our children are bigger than their parents and grandparents. But when they are finished growing taller they start to grow wider as adults! When we are eating carbs in excess the fat in our diet will stay in our digestive tract becuse of the high levels of triglycerides in our blood stream and pass out in fecal material. We were diigned to take advantage of carbs when they were the rare part of the diet. This is one of the reasons Atkins was so successful. We do not have an insulin like system to remove lipids from the blood stream! The liver is happily processing all the carbs into storable fat!

      The proof can be seen in nature. all carnivores who eat mainly meat and fat are all lean and muscular. The herbavores who are mainly on a carb diet are almost all heavy with huge stores of body fat. The logic of why we are obese seems to be ignored because of the influence of the agricultural industry who would lose out if we stopped eating carbs other than those in fresh fruit, nuts and vegies! No more bread, pasta and cereal is the simple answer to the obesity epidemic!

      Regards Irwin M Sternberg

      "Sonny"

    10. Bill Klimke  06/26/2007 07:32 PM Report

      I may have missed it but your panel did not discuss some recent and very intriguing findings on the difference in microbial organisms in the gut of lean and obese mice and the possible implications that microbial populations may have on human health.

      Turnbaugh et al., 2006. An obesity-associated gut microbiome with increased capacity for energy harvest. Nature. 444:1027-31

    11. Daniel Madrid  06/26/2007 05:08 PM Report

      Nutrition and Obesity - Wow Charlie! I just discovered your new site - I am a few months late. The Charlie Rose Show is my favorite program. I have been a loyal viewer for over a decade. Thank you for providing me and all the viewers with the best intellectual nutrition available on television. You provide a complete diet of stimulating conversation about all the significant topics that shape our world. Now that I have access to all your recorded shows I feel very wealthy and gluttonous. Thank you for reminding me that I need to exercise my body while I gorge myself to my heart, mind and soul's content as I start devouring your vast library feeding my endless curiosity. Thank you for making wealth of knowledge available to the public. Charlie Rose you are an American hero. Please stay healthy so you can share your never ending curiosity.

      Daniel Madrid

    12. Morris Haimowitz  06/26/2007 04:56 PM Report

      Thanks for great programs. Today on obesity, I did not hear anyone mention the fact that the US government recently provided a $190 billion subsidy to the wealthiest farmers growing the fattest foods: sugar, corn, wheat, soy, butter, so these foods are cheap. The govenment does not subsidize fruits and vegetables, which are expensive. Poor people use their fine brains to choose foods that they can afford. Poor people are more likely to be obese. The recent government subsidies and rise of obesity may be closely related.

    13. A. Halinda  06/26/2007 03:19 PM Report

      Dear Mr. Rose,

      Thank you for your program on nutrition and obesity last evening. The issues surrounding obesity are complex, mysterious and elusive, for the layman and expert alike. You have once again educated me!

      It is sad that some who have commented here believe that the obese need simply to exercise and eat less and that these actions will eliminate the problem entirely. They have missed the point - nutrition and obesity issues are multifactorial and not yet fully understood by the most educated in the area, nevermind those suffering from the effects. If losing weight was as simple as consistent exercise and reducing the amount consumed then millions of people would have lost weight and kept it off already.

      In actuality, what the experts are trying to convey, and what is experienced by the overweight and obese everyday, is that something much more insidious and malevolent, something very complex and elusive is occuring within the body of the obese individual. This "something" carries out its dirty work within the cells of the nervous and endocrine systems, the neural network in the gut, the metabolic process, reviving itself unabated via its evolutionary stranglehold on each and every cell in the body. This "something" manifests itself as the overwhelming desire for food. And you cannot control it easily.

      Highly intelligent and well-motivated people have attempted to combat the instinct to overeat time and time again and have failed miserably. There is clearly so much more going on than just 'overeating and lack of exercise.' The health professions must continue their research if society is ever to rectify increasing obesity rates.

      However, it is also high time that society in general, including the overweight and obese, recognizes the multifactorial affects of the obesity epidemic. It is no longer appropriate (and never has been!) to slap labels on large people and assume that their size is because of gluttony and laziness. This prejudiced behaviour merely adds to the problem for the obese. Recognition, acceptance, understanding and compassion must be provided to those suffering from obesity, as it is for those suffering from other conditions.

    14. lois steinberg  06/26/2007 02:29 PM Report

      Please send list of references/books displayed at the end of the obesity and nutritian program. thank you.

    15. Compton E. G. James  06/26/2007 11:34 AM Report

      Good morning Charlie, it was in awe and some amazement I watched the discussion on Obesity and Nutrition last evening. Thanks for having this discussion for I am presently having to address my health in both situations listed. The Panel members were so informative and very open in their presentations that it makes the recommended solutions easier to understand. I am also in agreement that this all starts at the dinner table at home, and it can also be assisted by our elected Officials. As one of your learned panel mmebers said, "there seems to be POLITICAL COWARDICE luring in the halls due to the influence of Corporate America. Looking foward for the availability of Video Copy of this Panel Discussion and any other such programes discussing related topics.

      Regards,

      Compton James.

    16. Portia Puzo  06/26/2007 11:03 AM Report

      Leave it to a show underwritten by Pfizer to completely ignore the importance of exercise in weight management. Marion Nestle was the only panelist to allude to the National Weight Control Registry, and her representation of a â??little exerciseâ?? couldnâ??t be more understated. Registry members get a HIGH level of exercise---60-90 minutes every dayâ?¦.a level that less than 1/3 of Americans get.

      Why not have a panel that includes James O. Hill and Rena Wing, cofounders of the National Weight Control Registry; and Claude Bouchard, founder of the NAAOS and author of Physical Activity and Obesity & Physical Activity and Health; and John Foreyt, author of a study that proves---contrary to Gina Kolataâ??s faulty declaration---that exercise does get weight off, and was the only group to keep weight off in his study that compared diet, diet plus exercise and exercise alone.

      Why not? Because drug companies donâ??t underwrite shows that inform the public about the REAL magic pill: Exercise---for obesity, longevity, depression.

    17. Bernie Bergman  06/26/2007 11:00 AM Report

      I have always throughly enjoyed your programs and this one was especially good in that it explains the real complexities of the problem of being overweight.

      I would really like to know if this will be run again at another time.

      Thanks Much, Bernie Bergman

    18. Leiph  06/26/2007 01:58 AM Report

      I have to say that I am baffled that the panel missed the key to weight gain/control. In the words of the Indie/Punk singer Henry Rollins, there are seven simple words "Eat better, eat less, move your body." Eat better means don't eat a triple cheeseburger morning, noon, and night; eat some fruit and vegetables. Eat less means don't get the extra large soda and fries. Move your body doesn't mean get in the gym 3 hours a day, but it means take the stairs, go to the park and throw the Frisbee around. Look, if people are looking for "washboard abs," then they will need to keep a strict diet and workout regimen, but if people are looking to not be a lard-ass, then they should engage in a little physical activity and not eat a bunch of junk. Personally, I consume huge amounts of soda and regularly cook food in butter and lard, but I also work out regularly, specifically weight resistant exercise which elevates the metabolism far greater than running or other cardiovascular activities. (Though, cardiovascular exercise is important for heart health.) Barring a hormonal imbalance such as a thyroid disorder, controlling weight and appetite is incredibly simple. "Eat better, eat less, move your body." For crying out loud people, it's your own bodies. One of the guests brought up a very important point: "A calorie is a calorie." It's simple physics and chemistry. Get with the program people!

    19. Carmen Garcia  06/26/2007 01:17 AM Report

      I was so interested in this obesity program, however, there were several delays, you were speaking, but no movement or sound. Where can I get this program.

      cmg

    20. Nelcha Cross  06/26/2007 01:14 AM Report

      Charlie....I want to Thank YOU personally for having a program that is NOT "junk food." I gladly watch regularly and am constantly impressed with your choice of guests.

      As to tonight's topic...BRAVO and let's hear MORE!!

      I went on my 1st diet in the 5th grade and have been battling weight ever since. Even when within what was a "good range" I was told by my Dr. that I was hypoglycemic and I needed to eat many small meals a day to keep my blood-sugar level...So personally I have to disagree with comment #2. I have been told to do the exact OPPOSITE! in addition, 20 years ago I developed CFIDS, but I hear NO programs discussing that and weight, even tho approx. 4 million people in America have it. Please HELP us and find a panel to discuss this disease...My Dr. has had me on the Blood Type diet, another suggests the Aruveydic diet,....when you sleep 12-16 hours a day it is hard to follow anything.

      Please keep up the Wonderful Informational Intelligent Programs I have have come to love in the few hours I am awake.

      In gratitude, Nelcha

    21. Frederick Grose  06/26/2007 12:52 AM Report

      As followup to this excellent panel, I would recommend that you interview the Surgeon General nominee, Dr. James Holsinger, Jr. He was announced on 24 May to "...particularly focus his efforts on educating parents and children about childhood obesity, a serious epidemic that decreases quality of life and burdens our healthcare system." (See http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070524-2.html.) I believe he may be as important to us for obesity as Dr. Koop was for AIDS.

      Thank you and your guests for a great service!

    22. William Marquardt  06/26/2007 12:34 AM Report

      Mr. Rose:

      I have enjoyed your shows many times for many years. This is my first comment.

      The solution to obesity is VERY SIMPLE. If people reduce the amount of food the eat (radically, if necessary), they will lose however much weight they want. GUARANTEED! Think about it. When you see photos of Nazi death camps do you ever recall seeing a single obese person? They are all skin and bones. When I see survivors of the Holocaust today, they look fit and healthy. The diet in the camps did not permanently harm their health. A severe reduction in eating will not kill you. After several weeks you will adjust and start to not feel hungry.

      I eat only one meal a day (sometimes several very small snacks in addition to the meal and sometimes nothing but the one meal when I am busy). I do not have a weight problem. I do not follow any particular diet, but eat balanced. Several months ago I had a small bout with pneumonia. I lost my appetite for a number of days and ate less than usual and lost 10 pounds. I decided I did not want to gain it back. Every day I get on a scale, and if my weight has crept up a couple pounds, I make it a point to eat smaller meals for a couple of days and the weight goes down. I am 65, weigh 145 pounds and am 5' 8.5".

      I have somewhat of a sweet tooth. I allow myself one dessert or sugar snack EVERY DAY. However, I cut out virtually all other sugar, including milk (which has a good deal of sugar). I make chocolate milk using unsweetened Ghiradilli power, unsweetened soy milk and add Sweet 'N Low. Tastes teriffic!

      Most people are eating too much because they do not have anything meaningful going on their lives. They are not busy enough, and are bored. I initiallly began eating one meal a day because I was very busy.

      I find people frequently do not like my ideas (on many topics) but they will definitely work.

      Thanks for reading this.

    23. Chris Chalfant  06/26/2007 12:29 AM Report

      I found the panel discussion regarding obesity quite fascinating. There are so many ways that we can look at the problems of obesity, and I think it is wonderful that there is so much effort being put into addressing this problem. While I am impressed with Dr. Leibelâ??s knowledge regarding the topic of obesity, I am quite disturbed about his comments toward the end of the show regarding the use of drugs to solve obesity problems (as well as others). While drugs can certainly be of use in extreme cases, they should never be the first method of addressing this or any other health problems. Prevention and attention to oneâ??s own health and wellness (or oneâ??s familyâ??s health and wellness) should always be in the forefront of the agenda, not quick fixes by doctors and the drug industry.

      I believe it is the mindset of the American public that we must defer and relinquish our power and ability to take charge of our own wellness to doctors and pharmaceuticals, rather than take responsibility for our own health. I would be interested in hearing the results of studies on obesity in countries such as India or Japan or China, where obesity is barely an issue and the countries are not ruled by the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries.

      Chris Chalfant

    24. Peter Wall  06/26/2007 12:05 AM Report

      Charlie - great program on obesity, but missing an important factor: sociology. Why is this a problem principally in America? Why now? Americans are not much different from other countries genetically, but why does this country have a far greater obesity problem than other developed countries? Rather than looking for medical solutions, shouldn't we be looking to emulate other nations? (Questions in case you revisit the topic in the near future.)

      Regards, Peter Wall