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Promised Land with director Gus Van Sant and actors Matt Damon and John Krasinski
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SharkswithfrikingLazers 06/09/2013 01:16 AM Report
Too heavy handed.
More debate with the Teacher/Scientist/MIT Graduate/Boeing Retiree/Farmer/Little Pony Rancher/Hal Holbrook/Frank Yates and have his position be the Scientists’ positions in the bonus features of Gasland.
Matt’s/Steve Butler’s personal journey is not real enough. Sorry, not “Good Will Hunting” enough. Dialogue. Dialogue. Dialogue.
The BIG twist did not pass the smell test.
Scene 17 is where it all fell apart.
And the market has spoken:
Budget $15 million
Box office $8,138,788
Sorry Guys. Lots of potential, execution slipped.
SharkswithfrikingLazers 01/07/2013 08:44 PM Report
ABOUT COMMUNITY NOT REALLY A FRACKING MOVIE
Krasinski says, "When fracking came into the discussion, we started reading this series in the New York Times called 'Drilling Down,' and I'd seen a '60 Minutes' piece called 'Shaleionaires,' about people who were literally becoming millionaires overnight.
People had so much potentially to gain, so much potentially to lose (because of environmental impacts associated with fracking). So they were making very, very human decisions. Survival decisions. This wasn't a political discussion anymore, an intellectual exercise. This was an everyday affair for these people."
While the case for taking the money could be compelling, Damon adds, "The people on the other side said, 'Do you bring your daughters to the whorehouse when times get tough?'
It's a very complex, very deeply felt argument on both sides."
http://www.sfgate.com/movies/article/Promised-Land-battles-beneath-surface-4150354.php#ixzz2HLOCPbfy
SharkswithfrikingLazers 12/24/2012 03:54 AM Report
Saw "Gasland". The bonus features include some great interviews with Scientists.
Yes, where is all the natural gas bubbling up from since it is supposed to be so deep below the water table? Perhaps the possible 300 mini-earthquakes all shaking one hole so the gas toward the surface moves into the water table? Perhaps the first hole loses its integrity and the natural gas makes a trip up it?
The fracking soup is a toxic waste land and all that water that is lost to the hole.
100,000 holes and you just screw up 100 of them and you can do so major, major damage.
The Clean Water Act should apply. Dick Cheney was wrong AGAIN!
SharkswithfrikingLazers 12/24/2012 03:46 AM Report
Charlie, you played this scene for the dialogue:
WILL
You're a first year grad student. You just got finished
reading some Marxian historian -- Pete Garrison,
probably -- you gunna' be convinced of that till next
month when you get to James Lemon, then you're
gunna' be talkin' about how the economies of Virginia
and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist
way back in 1740. That's gunna' last until next year,
you're gunna' be in here regurgitatin' Gordon Wood.
Talkin' about, you know, the pre-Revolutionary Utopia
and the capital forming effects of military mobilization.
CLARK
Well, as a matter of fact I won't because Wood
drastically underestimates the impact of social di--
WILL
Wood drastically...Wood drastically underestimates the
impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth,
especially inherited wealth. You got that from Vickers.
Work in Essex County, page 98, right? Yeah, I read
that, too. You gunna' plagiarize the whole thing for us?
Do you have any thoughts that...of your own on this
matter? Or do you-- is that your thing? You come into a
bar, you read some obscure passage, and then pretend
you, you..pawn it off as your own..as your own idea just
to impress some girls..? Embarrass my friend? See, the
sad thing about a guy like you is in fifty years you're
gunna start doing some thinkin' on your own, and
you're gunna' come up with the fact that there are two
certainties in life: one, don't do that, and, two, you
dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a fuckin'
education you coulda' got for a dollar fifty in late
charges at the public library.
CLARK
Yeah, but I will have a degree. and you'll be serving my
kids fries at a drive-thru on our way to a skiing trip.
WILL
Yeah, maybe. eh, but at least I won't be unoriginal.
Pardon me, if you have a problem like that, you and me
could just outside 'n we could figure it out.
CLARK
No, man, there's no problem..It's cool.
WILL
It's cool?
CLARK
Yeah.
WILL
Cool.
Looks like there was a big change:
CLARK
But I will have a degree, and you'll
be serving my kids fries at a drive
through on our way to a skiing trip.
WILL
(smiles)
Maybe. But at least I won't be a
prick.
(beat)
And if you got a problem with that,
I guess we can step outside and deal
with it that way.
While Will is substantially smaller than Clark, he [Clark]
decides not to take Will up on his [Will's] offer.
WILL
If you change your mind, I'll be
over by the bar.
Yes then, who really is original?
finalfantasytown 12/22/2012 09:58 PM Report
I am thinking where the pieces of scene are formed and when the terrible dream begins.
finalfantasytown 12/22/2012 09:53 PM Report
I have a terrible dream. In a machine chamber in which lots of guns set up and point to the great souls who enter the chamber one by one and are destroyed. This dream is very similar to the scene of Quentin's Inglorious bastard.
finalfantasytown 12/22/2012 09:38 PM Report
Charlie, the event which went through me on 12/21, is for you. Certain memory and knowledge are stored in particular place. Please use the traditional calendar, such as Mayan or traditional Chinese calendar when you want to remember something or search for knowledge, which is still not completely understood, from memory.
YNHow 12/20/2012 07:19 PM Report
Jeffrey Sach's ''price of civilization''. Very good book.
interview makes me want to see promise land.
Good Will hunting was a very good movie, ( with Robin Williams in a dramatic role.)
Discusssion over creative process and all, writing, was interesting.
SharkswithfrikingLazers 12/20/2012 03:05 AM Report
"Good Will Hunting" was 15 years ago. Five years worked on it. No scenes more than two pages but had five page scenes and in this current movie too. Dialogue in a five page scene then goes very fast.
Yes, very good writing and yes very good dialogue.
'Django Unchained' vs. "Promised Land" in a clip show on dialogue.
SharkswithfrikingLazers 12/20/2012 03:01 AM Report
20 to 25 drafts and kept grinding away on it.
Completed each others sentences.
Hard to tell who wrote which line.
Worked at Damon's over the weekend and between interruptions from the kids.
I would like to get a Green Light for that movie. Very low budget.
SharkswithfrikingLazers 12/19/2012 06:40 PM Report
Charlie, here is a document for starters on the meat of the subject:
http://1trickpony.cachefly.net/gas/pdf/Affirming_Gasland_Sept_2010.pdf
SharkswithfrikingLazers 12/19/2012 06:37 PM Report
Charlie, perhaps a wee bit of a panel?
Gasland vs TruthLand vs FrackNation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasland#Critical_response
SharkswithfrikingLazers 12/19/2012 06:35 PM Report
Sounds very, very familiar:
"In May 2008, Josh Fox received a letter from a natural gas company offering to lease his family’s land in Milanville, Pennsylvania for $100,000 to drill for gas.[1]
Fox then set out to see how communities are being affected in the west where a natural gas drilling boom has been underway for the last decade.
He spent time with citizens in their homes and on their land as they relayed their stories of natural gas drilling in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and Texas, among others. He spoke with residents who have experienced a variety of chronic health problems directly traceable to contamination of their air, of their water wells or of surface water.
In some instances, the residents are reporting that they obtained a court injunction or settlement monies from gas companies to replace the affected water supplies with potable water or water purification kits.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasland
kmfitz 12/19/2012 04:17 PM Report
I thought it strange Charlie didn't ask John Krasinski one question about The Office, especially since it's the last season, yet he went on and on about Good Will Hunting. Charlie must not realize what a genius show it is.
REMant 12/19/2012 11:50 AM Report
As I wrote when he appeared earlier this year, the premise behind this had to be revised when it turned out that fracking is not quite as bad as originally believed. When they couldn't blame the oilmen for high pressure drilling, the writers decided to turn it into a tale of high pressure salesmanship. I don't, however, think fracking is going to be quite the golden-egg laying machine a lot of ppl believe. But it won't matter because the prizes will likely go to the lady terrorist chaser. You can't tell me Hollywood, or the press, for that matter, care a fig about causes or issues in the news, when all it appears they ever do is look to exploit them.