Live Analysis of the Republican National Convention

with Mike Murphy, Mark Halperin, Michael Leavitt, Al Hunt, John Heilemann, Robert White and Scott Pelley
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Live Analysis of the Republican National Convention with Gov. Michael Leavitt; Robert White; Al Hunt of Bloomberg News; Scott Pelley of CBS News; John Heilemann of New York Magazine; Mark Halperin of Time Magazine

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    1. blank  09/04/2012 05:15 AM Report

      i was going to post a bunch of articles and videos about environmentalism lifestyle videos and visit out here but then i lost my internet connection and also i don't want to expose or over expose anything and maybe it was too much (everything is a lot of work and takes time)

      like how do you get a lot of information into something that has a positive effect without being too long that people get burnt out

    2. BENEZRAA  09/03/2012 10:52 PM Report

      REGARDING MY EARLIER COMMENT ON THE SUBJECT OF CLINT EASTWOOD'S WAKE FOR THE OBAMA PRESIDENCY:

      It would be irresponsible to ignore the possibility that some idiot or schizophrenic or extremist might take the performance to be a call to action resulting in assassination. May the well intended humor of Clint Eastwood -- which might better have been expressed differently -- not lead to such tragedy as we have seen occur all too often in recent times, such as Columbine, such as the attack on Gabby Giffords, such as the recent attack at the new "Batman" movie showing in Colorado, and all other such incidents.

    3. Slim  09/03/2012 08:02 PM Report

      This political season really is kabuki theatre. Al Hunt and Charlie Rose agreeing that Ryans misrepresentations don't matter because voters won't remember it in a few weeks. Really? Truth doesn't matter -the new Hunt -Rose axiom absolves the Republicans and the Nazis "Big Lie" campaigns. I guess freedom of speech means freedom to lie to the public, unchallenged. And now the media frenzy over the better off q and a on face the nation, no matter that the suggestion was forcefully and legitimately rebutted by an Obama campaign official on the same panel, the media coverage was skewed to suggest that this question struck dumb the assembled democratic panel. The media coverage of not only this election, but this president, bears an investigation.

    4. tabs  09/02/2012 08:54 PM Report

      NOW LET US GET THE BALL ROLLING FOR THIS NEXT WEEK OF KABUKI THEATER CALLED A DEMOCRAT NATIONAL CONVENTION.

      Today, Sunday Mr Axelrod appeared on the FAUX and in his discourse used the word "SNARKY?" Where in the world Mr Axelrod did you pick that word up? Mr Axelrod's appearance had all the qualities of a guy whistling through a graveyard as he would duck his head down at the conclusion of his spiel.Then Mr Axelrod seemed so surprised that he got away with an obvious load of Horse manure that he seemed embolden that he just kept on ranting...One will miss the Obama WH if you get voted out of office, as who will one have to mess with then?

      Then came the Mayor of Los Angeles Mr Villaraigosa, who has the distinction of presiding over a nearly BK American city, where even his former Liberal base has no use for him as they think he is a "SELL OUT." One might think of Mayor V as being another Charlie Schumer for being in love with his own voice and career. If this guy is the future of the Democrat Partay the Republicans have nothing to fear.

      It does seem that the Obama campaign playbook is guided by the old axiom that if you say it (a load of HM) long enough and loud enough it will become accepted as the truth. Unfortunately that is a cynical approach that does disservice to this nation. As stated by an old friend who was a Psychologist, "Cynicism is the beginning of death."

    5. tabs  09/02/2012 05:31 PM Report

      Now it is time to stand up, sit down, shake your leg or go your own way cause Tabs is here....

      The most important line in the Romney speech and it explains Romney to a TEEE is to "DO WHAT IS EXPECTED OF YOU." which in the parlance of the LDS is to CONFORM to the dictates of the religion. That in essence represses individuality which is replaced by a veneer of INAUTHENTICITY in conformity to the religion and or family structure. Very Simple REALLY.

      The real question is why didn't anybody else catch this dynamic? The answer is that you don't listen nor observe but rather live in and are attached to a very shallow and visceral sense of the world.

    6. BENEZRAA  09/02/2012 07:13 AM Report

      EVEN THOUGH THE ROMNEY PLATFORM IS DEMAGOGIC, ISOLATIONIST, AND A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY AND TO WORLD PEACE....

      Clint Eastwood ought to be praised for his performance of an Irish Wake in which the imagined corpse of the Obama Presidency is dressed down by a fellow appropriately drunken Irishman (many forget that Obama has Irish roots).

      Eastwood’s Irish Wake for the Obama Presidency may or may not prove prophetic; but, as enthusiastic political campaign theater, it was certainly not out of bounds.

      The other less obvious cartoon of the RNC was Anne Romney’s great speech in which she presented her own personal story version of Loretta Lynn’s “I Am Just A Coal Miner’s Daughter”.

      Do have a wonderful and safe Labor Day Weekend, everyone….

    7. SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/02/2012 01:46 AM Report

      Petition for fact checking and stopping the lies:

      http://signon.org/sign/tell-mainstream-media

      If you lie to federal officials you go to Federal Prison (just ask Martha Stewart).

      If you lie to the American people some networks actually help you.

    8. blank  09/01/2012 06:48 PM Report

      http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/08/paul-ryan-marathon.html

      republicans are not environmentalists that's a fact you can check nothing else matters

      that's the litmus test (everything else fits into place)

    9. SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/01/2012 02:42 AM Report

      "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers." Neil Newhouse

      " . . . Ryan's speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech." Sally Kohn at Fox News

      More here in 5:49 from Stephen Colbert: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/418523/august-30-2012/paul-ryan-s-misleading-g op-convention-speech

    10. MotherLodeBeth  09/01/2012 02:32 AM Report

      Here in the Sierras of California I marvel at the fact that a nobody like me seems to know more about Mitt Romney than all the millionaire talking heads in the media.

      Am NOT a member of the LDS church yet in the last three years I have heard so many first hand examples of the quiet generosity of the Romney family from LDS friends we have.

      And the nonsense about 'likability' is getting old. Steve Jobs had NO likability when he was at Apple, yet he ran a tight ship and made wise choices and Apple now has 600+ BILLIONS in funds set aside. This is something Mitt Romney understands and as he clearly noted in his talk, when you are in the real business world, you can save most businesses but not all. Remind me again what private business has Obama been in that was a success?

      FACT. You in the media have done a very poor job of being fair when it comes to Mitt Romney and how he was worked so hard to connect to people, Media just edits what they want to show. Tell me why so many tv media refused to carry ALL the many minority folks who spoke? As for Clint Eastwood I thought it was damn funny.

    11. SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/01/2012 02:27 AM Report

      Each night has a theme. Paul Ryan spoke on "we can change it" night.

      Facts, reality and the meaning of words can all be changed.

      Jon Oliver explains how in five minutes:

      http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-30-2012/rnc-2012---the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016---we-can-ch ange-that

      (Rudy is something else isn't he?)

    12. SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/01/2012 02:18 AM Report

      There seems to be some confusion on Paul Ryan's speech and his "hard truth".

      Jon Stewart will help us in two minutes and 25 seconds:

      http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-30-2012/rnc-2012---the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016---paul-ryan -s-convenient-truths

    13. SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/01/2012 02:04 AM Report

      Charlie, we heard Mike Murphy tell us Bain Capital is more about creating money for universities than creating jobs.

      If the story is now changing from creating jobs to enriching universities it would be good to see some evidence that this is true.

      It appears at Dartmouth it was a "buddy deal":

      http://www.dartblog.com/data/2012/05/010237.php

      How about a list of universities/colleges that invested in Bain and their returns or losses?

    14. SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/01/2012 01:42 AM Report

      So we heard from Michael Leavitt.

      Take a moment and read about the Leavitt Foundation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_leavitt#Leavitt_Foundation

      Sounds like it could have been written about Mitt Romney.

      Birds of a feather . . . right Bob White?

    15. SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/01/2012 01:39 AM Report

      What is the most significant legislation passed when Mitt Romney was governor?

      Obamacare, sorry Obamneycare, sorry Romneycare.

      Too bad he can't talk about his greatest work as Governor.

    16. SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/01/2012 01:36 AM Report

      Charlie, you looked great here--natural, healthy, robust.

      Scott Pelley has gone to mannequin status. Either that or he needs to order his face with way less starch.

    17. richard-lipscombe  08/31/2012 08:48 PM Report

      Mr Rose there are two reasons Romney will win:

      Team Obama is not that good...we will see that at their convention...Obama has a weak team - always did have but now they are under pressure it will show...

      Governor Martinez made the best speech of the RNC and here is why...She spoke of going to a lunch with Republicans and discussing issues not partisan politics...as she walked to the carpark with her husband it dawn on her 'we are republicans!' the hardworking Americans in the main and on the big issues will have a similar moment...

      Romney will win even if he does poorly in the Debates which he will not...

      cheers, richard.

    18. SharkswithfrikingLazers  08/31/2012 08:13 PM Report

      Please excuse me, I forgot a big one:

      In Romney's speech: "His $716 billion cut to Medicare to finance Obamacare will both hurt today's seniors, and depress innovation - and jobs - in medicine."

      "As CBS News explained earlier this month, these "cuts" - actually reductions in future Medicare spending - are to providers, not Medicare recipients. And they extend the life of the Medicare program - which is perhaps why Ryan, Romney's running mate, included them in his own budget plan."

      So cutting government spending to providers is bad now and your own guy is doing the same thing?

    19. SharkswithfrikingLazers  08/31/2012 08:01 PM Report

      Americans increasingly occupy two realities, one based on the conviction that facts matter, the other on the notion that facts are only what you need them to be in a given moment. That ought to give all of us pause because it leads somewhere we should not want to go.

      When two realities divide one people, the outcome seems obvious.

      They cannot remain one people.

      http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-oped-0702-pitts-20120702,0,2846706.column

    20. SharkswithfrikingLazers  08/31/2012 07:58 PM Report

      Let's go to CBS to see how much BS Romney is spewing:

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57504387-503544/fact-check-mitt-romneys-convention-speech/

      In summary:

      Obama is NOT on an apology tour.

      Obama did NOT raise taxes on the middle-class but Romney will probably have to based upon his plan.

      Obama is not cutting the military but the cuts come from a Congressional agreement.

      The highest poverty rate was in 1959 NOT NOW.

      Obama is NOT attacking success. (Context! It is about roads and bridges.)

      Romney is promising to create 250,000 jobs every month for four years.

    21. richard-lipscombe  08/31/2012 07:53 PM Report

      Al Hunt is just not that smart...Al you should not talk about taxes and budgets because you are not a wonk (by your own admission) and you do not know what you are talking about...Al you are not a serious analyst and that is why you just parrot Obama's lines...Charlie Rose does not help here because he is an Obama cheerleader...GM closing was correct and it was another example of broken promises from Obama... In the end whatever Al Hunt says does not matter - it is just noise...Charlie Rose will not stay on TV if he continues to put up the likes of Al Hunt...The worse thing he does is name drop, out of context, to make Al Hunt look important and part of the Buzz..Guess what Al Hunt you do not get it - Mitt Romney will win and win comfortably...Obama has taken his best shot at defining Mitt Romney as the Devil but this Convention saw a Mormon who is simply a good guy...Being a sad soar prune as is Al Hunt must be tough so I feel for him - god bless you Al...Al Hunt do us all a favour and retire!!!

      Mike Murphy is someone who knows what he is talking about because he has been in the Campaign War Room for Mitt Romney...He understands what the Campaign is trying to do and where it hit highs and hit lows...Mike is right, this guy is a throw back to old time Leaders like Truman and General Eisenhower...It is good to see the difference between Mike Murphy and Al Hunt - one knows stuff and the other does not know what he does not know...Good that Mike defended Ryan on the GM comment and picked him up on his comment on Simpson/Bowles which he voted against...Ryan should have dealt with it in a different way...Romney did say that he should have put the pension funds of his Mormon Church because he made so much money for others...Mike is right that the 'young turks' are about the future and solving problems not partisan politicians...

      Charlie Rose you just do not get it...Optimism is not about competition around the world - it is about the divisive and mean politics of 'fairness'... Optimism is about an 'open society' that America use to be - not the class-based society imposed by big government that is about redistributing taxpayers wealth rather than helping taxpayer to do better for themselves...Optimism is the opposite to 'you didn't build that!'...

    22. geneott  08/31/2012 05:43 PM Report

      In his acceptance speech, Romney showed his position on environmental concerns by his contemptuous delivery of his statement that, “President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet.” He further emphasized his lack of environmental concern by making “taking full advantage of our oil and coal and gas and nuclear and renewables” his number one step in his five point recovery plan. It is hard to believe such callousness in light of the increasing frequency of disastrous environmental impact events upon the USA and world.

    23. REMant  08/31/2012 03:31 PM Report

      Hunt, like the rest of the liberal press, would seem to be in fact wrong about the Janesville plant closing. As the campaign pointed out in response: "[Ryan} didn't talk about Obama closing the plant. He said that candidate Obama went there in 2008, and what he said was 'With government assistance, we can keep this plant open for another 100 years.' Here we are four years into his administration. That plant is still closed," That's factually correct. The context was that Obama would set that plant, which was in trouble, to making new fuel efficient vehicles. That hasn't happened. Whether Obama should be taken to task for the campaign promise or not is another question. But it IS obvious that the president's spending was designed to modernize America and American industry, and despite some stupid investments, has not lost much money. Romney's present advisors suggested at the time, as I recall, that the stimulus be spent on the military.

      It's also obvious the convention planners decided to go after women, Hispanics and immigrants generally, yet certainly haven't abandoned the Bush rhetoric.

      "W" came across as a normal person, esp in contrast to Al Gore. That didn't keep him from invading a good part of the Near East, or his admin getting involved in one scandal after another. That's why we saw little brother Jeb last night. Or rather others did: I'd already heard his spiel twice. Ditto Rubio.

      No matter how much Romney lauds American heroism he avoided military service himself, received a college deferment, then two and half years of religious deferments, and more college deferments, until the re-introduction of the lottery in 1969 spared him. Had he been called he would no doubt have served in the reserves, in CONUS or some rear area, like many of the chickenhawks in public life today. Actually it was not at all an unusual attitude at the time, esp with those close to levers of power, who had not yet fully apprehended how to cloak inegalitarianism in the language "equal opportunity." Perhaps that's why Papa Bush didn't push his own son in that direction. In 1970 young Mitt averred it had been a mistake to get involved in Vietnam. He also needs to know that WWII was not esp popular, esp not with Republicans, and its volunteers prompted to benevolence by a draft the Founders would not have countenanced. My father, who planned amphibious landings in the Pacific, told me before he died, that many thought it had been an FDR conspiracy. And I have no doubt at all how Mitt got into Harvard.

      No matter how many cos Bain acquired survived, and I understand it's only about half, it doesn't absolve them of the tactics they used in acquiring them, nor the fact that cos like Bain routinely loaded them up with debt to pay fat fees to themselves. Nor that office and athletic superstores, like all superstores, eliminated many more jobs than they created. It recalls similar praise for those operations which emasculated the postal service. It takes some of the shine off rhetoric about small business entrepreneurship.

      No matter what Ryan's (and 2008 Palin speechwriter Matthew Scully's) oratory may have intimated about libertarianism, it wasn't heard last night, and what was is what Ryan's program has been all along. It isn't acceptable, and it won't work anymore than Reagan's did. The fact of the matter is that the GOP has been split between outright Tories, like Buckley, and old-fashioned Liberals, like Goldwater, since at least 1964, and Romney and Ryan are two of the former.

      His speech didn't say anything special, his promises were too little and too few, and it sounded too much like the inconsistent pandering we've become accustomed to. (Once again I see Heilemann echoing my sentiments.) For instance, he promised that he would not raise taxes on the middle-class, but we fully expect middle-class loopholes to be closed, and, even so, a lot budget-cutting or borrowing, and he did not promise to balance the budget by even the end of his term.

      Too many politicians take credit (as well as blame) for economic situations they had nothing to do with. I'd be willing to bet that the Mass budget was balanced during Romney's term in office from 2003 to 2007 mainly because of the Greenspan bubble. And that he got into office in the first place because of the tech sector collapse and Enron fiasco. Nevertheless, his policies raised fees, tuitions, and property taxes, if not income taxes. From an approval rating of 61% after his first year in office he sank to 34% in his last, and he did not seek re-election, perhaps also realizing, in a nod to his business acumen, that the future of such an investment did not look too bright.

      The impression I retain of him is that there's a lot less to Mitt than meets the eye, and that he has a lot further to go before I and a lot of Paul supporters or independents would consider voting for him, altho I expect the usual bump in the polls simply because a lot of folk are only now becoming aware this is an election year.

      Clint Eastwood was no doubt intended by some ppl (who probably ought to be retired) as a sub for John Wayne or Charlton Heston. Be thankful it wasn't Oprah.

      On the question of why they haven't used this material earlier it may be partly because they want to finish strong - given general public apathy that may make sense - and partly because the attacks were being met by the PACs. But it raises the interesting question whether the PACsters haven't shot themselves in the feet in this skirmish.

      Of course, if Romney loses, it is bound to strengthen the party's Populist element, but we may once again have to ask what's the matter with Kansas.