Charlie Rose

alisharow21  07/22/2012 03:15 PM Report

Whether carried out by Sunni terrorists, or not inconceivably, the Mossad, the response to this particular operation was likely orchestrated by what has been shown by the UK Guardian

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SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/19/2012 12:45 PM Report

"Tartus hosts a Soviet-era naval supply and maintenance base, under a 1971 agreement with Syria, which is still staffed by Russian naval personnel. Tartus is the last Russian military base outside the former Soviet Union, and its only Mediterranean fueling spot, sparing Russia’s warships the trip back to their Black Sea bases through straits in Turkey, a NATO member.[8]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartus#Russian_naval_base

HELLO!

Provide Russia with a new location for a base or help them with this one.

What would the good ol' USA do if we were Russia?

REMant  07/19/2012 12:45 PM Report

As with Libya, the admin is trying to play both sides of the Syrian street, urging peace but encouraging revolt and, it appears, supporting it financially since at least 2005, as revealed by the Wikileaks cables, altho the latter seems hardly necessary considering the reported involvement of Goldman Sachs' chief, George Soros, and the Saudis and Qataris in this effort to at least contain and channel affairs there.

Whether carried out by Sunni terrorists, or not inconceivably, the Mossad, the response to this particular operation was likely orchestrated by what has been shown by the UK Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/12/syrian-opposition-doing-the-talking) as an extensive British and US relations conspiracy, and the latter are, of course, are trying to make as much out of it as they can, for instance with the appearance on The News Hour last night of their phony "United States Institute of Peace" mouthpiece and inclusion of the CFR's president here.

It may well have even been its primary motive, as with fallacious reports of horrific massacres such as those in Houla and Tremseh, the BBC caught even airing a picture taken years ago in Iraq. These same ppl have reportedly propagated news of fictitious fighting in Damascus several times in the past year. Much of what has been reported recently on the news it turns out has been the output of a single guy in a flat in Britain, unmasked by a Japanese newspaper.

Videos of their alleged propaganda efforts may be seen on Alex Jones' websites, here: http://www.prisonplanet.com/shocking-videos-reveal-truth-behind-syrian-freedom-fighters.html

and here, http://www.infowars.com/cnn-botches-effort-to-refute-syria-danny-propaganda-scandal/

American and British media, at least those not actively involved themselves, or yellow journalists like Scott Pelley and Diane Sawyer, continue to manically misrepresent the complexity of the situation. Richard Engel recently returned reporting "the rebels struggle for freedom" much as he had those in Libya, and implying as deserving of our support, as well as, of course, that "the end is near."

More informed, or less biased, accounts say they are heavily-armed, foreign-backed, apparently using Turkey for a sanctuary, and including among their ranks a sizable proportion of foreign fighters, of which at least some in the US are said to fear the consequence. But...

Mr Rose, like Mr Ignatius this morning (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/david-ignatius-syria-approaches-the-tipping-point/2012/07/18/ gJQAFoCvtW_story.html), appears to have been on the receiving end of this effort, which appears aimed rather to point up that "the dictator" might use chemical weapons in a Branch Davidian-style holocaust (which, though, was instigated by our own attorney general). These ploys calls to mind the fund-raising dictum to always say you are meeting your goal when asking for more money; i.e., beg the question.

There is no "regime" and no "people." Syria's population comprises 74% Sunnis (including Kurds and others), 12% Alawites (including Arab Shia), 10% Christians (including Armenians) and 3% Druze. The French, who controlled the country between the world wars, attempted to marginalize the Sunnis by placing the minorities in positions of power and the Alawites got the military, positioning Assad's father for his 1970 coup. As in several other countries since the end of the war, they've certainly ruled at the end of the gun barrels, tho that has been norm in the Middle East, and after revolutions, including our own, but they retain the support of the other minorities, and probably, given reports in the past year, with good reason.

No doubt the Russians have kept the US and NATO at bay, seemingly greatly irritating the Sec'y of State, whose scheduled departure is no doubt keenly anticipated by much of the world, but until recently, as with Egypt, I doubt the Israelis were any too happy to see this boat rocked, tho they may change or may have already changed their minds if they think the fundamentalists can be controlled, or the situation deteriorated beyond salvaging. Any idea that Putin may suffer reprisals neglects the fact that he remains hugely popular in Russia. No one in fact seems to want intervention except the aforementioned conspirators, and it remains to be seen if a president of the United States will be among their number. It would certainly not be the first time the American public were lied to. Indeed, I can't think of a single war this country has gotten involved in where it was not.