Charlie Rose

omerbashich  08/05/2012 12:55 PM Report

Even if everything in that experiment turned out demonstrated, even if at 1000 sigma, it would still mean there is a particle which could have "given mass to everything", not that it did. You don't prove a theory in theory.

In fact,you don't even start with a theory and then try to prove it with some data, but the other way around.

Nor could you use such a "demonstration" for solving the remaining 96%-part of the big puzzle, contrary to the guest's wishful thinking.

Besides, the very concept of "giving mass to everything" is ridiculous: what was it, then, that gave mass to "Higgs boson"? A Shmuck hoson?

All we could learn from the LHC is whether there is yet another particle out there. So what?!

So that Anglo-Saxon armadas could continue wasting trillions (made by subduing resourceful nations) and look for bizarre weapons (now of mini-black-hole type), all in pursuit of Anglo-Saxon global dominance under the Anglo-Saxon empress.

What a Greek tragedy.

aj617  07/12/2012 11:44 AM Report

Hey blank, I thought that odstudios was talking about my

comment too at first, although it wasn't logical,

because I put on a pedant persona hoping to irritate some

overrated academics into proving a little math thing about

symmetry, which might help their project if they could, but

there's no shame in not being able to prove it, not even

DB himself could do that - its deceptively difficult like

the Goldbach Conjecture and nowhere to be found in the nomenclature...bit of a mystery there.

Hey blank, can you move furniture around with your mind?

blank  07/12/2012 02:44 AM Report

tuts - odstudios was talking to aj617 (?) not to you it's an inside ongoing joke that has sprung up from a semi schizophrenic ordeal that has been taking place it's not something to worry about thanks for coming on this show

this is GREAT combine this with the brain series show about multiple sclerosis that was on a few days ago it's just crazy

i think in the end it doesn't matter if it's here or in switzerland (i definitely would like to get swiss citizenship if i can though) - they have 42,000 miles of trails - that would be a big plus

some of these scientists look a little unhealthy sometimes it's good to try to keep a balance in health i know it can get hard at times totally spiraling out into ideas and thoughts but if you can manage to put together a basic routine that you stick to you can still spiral out in your mind while you do all that (before other things become overwhelming and shut you down) and you'll find that you're capabilities are even better and everything can go even farther and be more astonishing

check read this article

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/magazine/how-exercise-could-lead-to-a-better-brain.html

i'm currently suffering from brain damage and physical damage and psychological damage (it develops in ways that you don't previously imagine) so this is a major obstacle to get over that i'm dealing with but i feel like i tend to lose track of everything i can't accomplish

shows like this help

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH98lrUPtss&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UUkj1iScU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD61O5_DM6Q&feature=related

http://ecologicalskin.com/products/

i got eco body it feels pretty good so far (i've only used it for two days as of yet) eco face probably shows up less but it looks less natural (the ingredients) i didn't see it at the store

shelgr3  07/11/2012 11:13 PM Report

Poor Charlie. He wants to know the bottom line. He wants to know what it all MEANS. But his guests didn't have the heart (or the guts) to tell him that it doesn't mean anything; it just IS. Poor Charlie. This is so frustrating for him.

anne4444  07/11/2012 08:32 PM Report

Thank you for sharing.

There is only one soul in the universe. One single soul currently exists on earth at current time line. All other souls are from different time line (past or future). Because of the creation of time, it enables us to have 7 billion souls (manifested by itself in different timeline) living together on earth. It looked like we were all attracted or tricked (depends on your experience) by the mother earth. Maybe… the purpose of all lives is to help past souls move into the future.

Hopefully, our scientists will help us to find out the existence of the soul and its purpose in life.

tuts  07/11/2012 04:39 PM Report

I have to apologize to all my US accelerator colleagues. What I meant to say was that the US energy frontier accelerator in high energy physics - the Fermilab Tevatron -closed down in 2011, and that the energy frontier has moved to the LHC. It is of course true that there are accelerators in the US (sorry for my myopic view). As pointed out BNL has a heavy ion accelerator (RHIC), and Fermilab has accelerators that will focus on the intensity frontier rather than the energy frontier which has moved to the LHC. Once again apologies to my HEP colleagues for that misrepresentation. I was just not thinking and simply said the wrong thing. My mistake.

and to odstudios: I think you missed my point. I certainly was not suggesting that hairdressers are any less well read than anybody else. The point of my story is that I was astonished and pleased that the whole Higgs search story had managed to reach so far into the public consciousness. In contrast, a decade ago when I chatted to anyone on the plane and mentioned I was a particle physicist, all conversation ceased. My point was how the landscape has changed since then - "hairdresser" could just as well have been "neighbor", "cab driver", "history professor", "senator", ... you name it. That anyone beyond our physics community would be interested is great, but still surprises me.

SandyKellermann  07/11/2012 01:13 PM Report

Fascinating though I need to have it a bit clearer to share with teens who also are so interested > help?

AFr  07/11/2012 01:06 PM Report

The statement that there is no US based collider right now is wrong, in the center of Long Island is Brookhaven National Laboratory ( http://www.bnl.gov )with its Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider, RHIC (http://www.bnl.gov/rhic" ). Yes, we have smaller projects, less than 2 thousand scientists worldwide, and not the high beam energy as the LHC, but this is a much more flexible collider.

We even have collaborators from Columbia University.

odstudios  07/10/2012 09:10 PM Report

Believe it or not, some of us simpleton hairdressers even read books once in a while. Pompous *ss.

odstudios  07/10/2012 09:10 PM Report

Believe it or not, some of us simpleton hairdressers even read books once in a while. Pompous *ss.

aj617  07/10/2012 04:43 PM Report

Mathematical symmetry appears to be a concept central to the study

of topics beyond the Higgs Boson particle. It is probably unlikely that

any random hitherto missing bit of information on the subject will turn

out to have pertinent implications for its theory but it is a fact that in

2009 apparently a new and extremely simple form of such symmetry

was discovered to exist in certain binary quadratic forms. So let us

place the Boson in some primordial soup and sprinkle in some clues

from the new Source of the Mirror just to see what might happen.....

Are all arguments from analogy false? It is my feeling that before

super symmetry can be understood simple symmetry must first be

mastered. Can anyone give a deep explanation for the phenomenon

described below, or perhaps even prove it?

x,y,A(x,y),F : integers

In a few binary quadratic equations such as A = 5x^2 + 5xy + y^2,

A =2x^2 + 2xy + y^2 , A = 25x^2 + y^2 etc. any value of 'A' that is

coprime with its y coordinate will be prime or a square of a prime if it

occurs just once on the equation , and will be composite if it occurs

more than once. Furthermore, factors for the composites may be easily

calculated directly from the (x,y) pairs that produced them.

Consider for a moment A = 5x^2 + 5xy + y^2.

All of the terms for which 'A' is coprime with its y coordinate

are composed solely of +/-1 mod 10 primes. On the chart

below are shown all of the values for A <= 209 (and a few

a little larger). Please note that if all values of A that have a

factor in common with their y coordinate are excluded from

consideration, then all of the rest of the values occur only once

and are therefore prime or a square of a prime(121) except for 209,

which occurs at (1,12) and (5,3). One of its factors F(and hence also

a second one) may be easily deduced :

F = Gcd(A, (x2-x1)*(y1+y2) + (x2 + x1)*(y1-y2)).

F = Gcd(A, (5-1)*(12+3) + (5+1)*(12-3)).

F = Gcd(209, (4)*(15) + (6)*(9)) = GCD(209,114) = 19.

x=1,x=2.............................

y=1-----11, 31, 61, 101, 151, 211....

y=2-----19, 44, 79, 124, 179, 244....

y=3-----29, 59 ,99, 149, 209....

y=4-----41, 76,121,176, 241....

y=5-----55, 95,145, 205,275...

y=6-----71,116,171,236...

y=7-----89,139,199,269...

y=8----109,164,229,..

y=9----131,191,261

y=10---155,220

y=11---181,251

y=12---209

----- : : : : :

The above idea will apply to any and all arbitrarily large values of 'A',

and a subset set of all possible values of 'A' includes the complete set

of all possible integers composed of +/- 1 mod 10 primes.

Bye bye to psuedo-primes and good riddance. There is no such

thing as a psuedo-prime in this mode of analysis. The real question posed here however is more about

whether or not there exists any strong connections between the nature of primality of integers and the string theory mathematics of Physics, and whether or not the long veiled

mystery of symmetry in binary quadratic forms provides any useful evidence for it.

REMant  07/10/2012 02:54 PM Report

I've concluded from all this that the Higgs particle field or whatever, i.e., gravitational mass, must be decaying light. The universe's apparent expansion in no way conflicts with this idea, nor even the Bible and Greek philosophy. Tho I think Plato said all that will ever be said about the "origin" of the universe. Particle physicists are, however, basically Newtonians and as can be seen in these comments, they still talk about matter and forces.