Charlie Rose

sdebbad  07/16/2012 04:03 AM Report

SharkswithfrikingLazers,

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"China has, of course, been assisting and arming Pakistan which is a red flag to India. It makes them a second class enemy."

WHOA! Then we are a second class enemy to India as well?"

You got that right :)

At the end of the day, can you trust a white man? ... Ha ha. JK :)

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/10/2012 06:18 PM Report

Religion: Zoroastrian

Wow Charlie, I would have asked him a few questions about his religion.

How often do you get a Zoroastrian at the table?

We have heard questions put to Mitt Romney on Mormonism but I don't ever remember hearing anyone get a Zoroastrian question.

vongleichent  07/10/2012 03:37 PM Report

Nice finish there at the end. I hope to see that day come when the Indian Tiger will be released. On top of that I need to go, and see the country for myself.

rgpenner1  07/09/2012 09:56 AM Report

Charlie, you often interview philanthropic people like Bill Gates, the foundations, etc. It would be interesting to know what impact these large efforts have on the countries infrastructure and politics. I recently returned from Kenya on a visit to a mennonite relief effort. I see great efforts in philanthropy by "western" organizations in Africa. At the same time you see the "fat cat" politicians driving around in their Mercedes's not really doing near enough to spread the wealth and benefit in their country. Is our doing the "heavy lifting" taking too much pressure off the local leadership to do "real" things" for their own country? - Richard Penner

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/09/2012 02:55 AM Report

She says, ‘China is heavy handedly coming into Africa. The extractive industries are exploding as a result (getting Africa’s natural resources). But they are also putting in hard infrastructure. So the food that was rotting in the granaries is now able to move along the roads.’

Yes Charlie, Africa and China--more on this please. Especially the labor situation and is China exporting slave-like-labor to Africa where Africa once was the slave exporter? Perhaps China is doing more real good with this infrastructure than we have ever done?

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/09/2012 02:28 AM Report

"China has, of course, been assisting and arming Pakistan which is a red flag to India. It makes them a second class enemy."

WHOA! Then we are a second class enemy to India as well?

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/09/2012 02:19 AM Report

Not just the Green Revolution to feed the billion plus in India but the DOUBLY Green Revolution.

http://www.biotech-info.net/gordon_conway.html

Monsanto does not come off very well in "Food, Inc." with their seed monopoly.

In 1999, Gordon Conway (who had Judith's job) addressed the Monsanto Company board of directors, warning of the possible social and environmental dangers and requested that Monsanto disavow the use of so-called terminator genes; the company later complied.

Yes, "The Wellness of Mankind Throughout The World" by first doing no harm.

AND NEVER funding the likes of Josef Mengele again!

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Eugenics-and-the-Nazis-the-California-2549771.php

TinMan  07/08/2012 01:43 PM Report

From today's NYTimes editorial re Kashmir:

Had the graves been found under Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s compound in Libya or in the rubble of Homs in Syria, there surely would have been an uproar. But when over 2,000 skeletons appear in the conflict-ridden backyard of the world’s largest democracy, no one bats an eye. While the West proselytizes democracy and respect for human rights, sometimes going so far as to cheerlead cavalier military interventions to remove repressive regimes, how can it reconcile its humanitarianism with such brazen disregard for the right to life in Kashmir? Have we come to accept that there are different benchmarks for justice in democracies and autocracies? Are mass graves unearthed in democratic India somehow less offensive?

Wonder where this leaves the Rockefeller Foundation?

blank  07/08/2012 12:59 AM Report

actually no knock on this but i'm going to post this on the bill gates one

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/07/2012 03:19 AM Report

He tells us overpopulation was a problem and now it is a bonus.

WHAT? So what about the working age demographic and the power they bring. So what about the green revolution and with 350M people you had famine and now you don't.

Yes, you do have to feed and educate and give jobs and failure to do so would be catastrophic.

There is a number where there are too many. Many say 2B is too much for our planet. We are now at 7B people.

BIRTH CONTROL IN INDIA!

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/07/2012 03:07 AM Report

He tells us that India's biggest problems are energy and water and fourth-fifths of the rain water runs into the sea.

Yes, we call this globalization and this is the reason why globalization IS a zero sum game.

The pie of water and energy is limited and we all need more and more and more of both.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/07/2012 02:58 AM Report

She tells us citizens of the world have more cellphones than toilets.

It is good to know that in some innovative places folks can talk on one without sitting on the other.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/07/2012 02:52 AM Report

"Currently (2010), on average, Tata Sons contributes between 8 to 14 percent of its net profit every year for philanthropic activities through the various Tata Trusts."

http://www.forbesindia.com/printcontent/12682

He told us 4.5% so something is off here Charlie.

Ten percent is what you hear to give in Church and they tell you gross not net, especially Dave Ramsey.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  07/07/2012 02:43 AM Report

The bourgeoisie are driven by economic (Tata) and technological development (innovation conference).

The historical development in these areas created “industrial millionaires”—the bourgeoisie, successful business people responsible for toppling Feudalism and creating a society where technology and education are available to all.

Instead of creating a more liberated society however, Marx claims the bourgeoisie have only created “new forms of oppression.” Marx believed that Representative government only serves to manage the affairs of the bourgeoisie.

So Tata and and the Rockefeller Foundation appear to make Marx a prophet. Then when you compare and contrast China and India his prophecy might even be more profound.

Max83  07/06/2012 07:13 PM Report

Another great and more famous Low Tech solution to make the world a better place is: Plastic soda bottles become light source

Here the video links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHTD_RX3J2I and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_4qFrxw_4

Max83  07/06/2012 05:22 PM Report

I would like the Rockefeller Foundation to give grant money to spread the usage of compost toilets around the world, especially the Loveable Loo compost toilet concept invented by Joseph Jenkins. Here the Link to the Loveable Loo website: http://humanurehandbook.com/store/LOVEABLE-LOO-Eco-Toilet.html I operate Loveable Loos myself at my meditation and recreation cabin and I love them hahahaha The loveable loos conserve lots of waters.

The other project I would like the Rockefeller Foundation to grant money to is the FogQuest project: www.fogquest.org

They collect water from fog through low tech but very efficient and affordable techniques.

We are only focusing on High Tech solutions all the time, when in fact there are many very efficient Low Tech solutions on the market that can help many many people, even here in the industrialized world. The Loveable Loo and Fogquest are just two examples of that. Like I said I use a Loveable Loo myself and I save water here in the USA.

TinMan  07/06/2012 02:31 PM Report

What is disturbing about this Tata interview is that it's a manifestation of pitting India against China. Both Tata, of course, and Rodin portray India as the "good" rising power and China as the "bad" rising power. Particularly disturbing is Rodin's glib implications that somehow China is doing bad things in Africa. Africans would seem to disagree with that (ref the recent NYTimes editorial http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/opinion/beijing-a-boon-for-africa.html/?_r=1). And mineral extraction? I guess India isn't interested in natural resources from Rodin's remarks.

While I don't expect that an Indian industrialist and nationalist would say many constructive things about China, it's unseemly and unprofessional that the president of a major philanthropic organization would be so prejudicial and one-sided.

REMant  07/06/2012 11:14 AM Report

Notice how Charlie perked right up when Tata said more is better. Typically Keynesian and, I'd say, philanthropic enthusiasm. Most Americans like that. But more is not better. Technology, of course, can help, is necessary, but fewer people would be better. Population doesn't simply increase by itself, even when the poor respond by having more children. It increases when money is put out-of-kilter. That's what's increased the disparity in income and wealth. You print more money, and ever more money is demanded. And it's what leads to depressions. The only advantage too large a population can have is as one of Marx's reserve armies. The accumulation of capital allows you to push folks around, and when you're just getting started banks discovered you can just create it out of thin air. That's why I've constantly said poverty instigates progress, but poverty is caused by it.

Tata basically thinks the developed world should treat the less developed world as a welfare case. I suspect Carnegie felt the same, funding libraries while "rationalizing" the steel and railroad businesses, and profiting from the Civil War.

BTW, resilience and shocks have nothing to do with it, and Americans a century ago were just the same. Madam ex-president, a psychologist by training, the first president of an Ivy League school, and the highest paid of either gender in the US, has been listening to Greenspan.

Of course, cars for the masses began at least with Ford's Model T, and the Citroen 2cv certainly qualifies, as well as the Fiat 500 and 600, Morris Minor and Mini, and the Volks Wagen.