Charlie Rose

SharkswithfrikingLazers  06/27/2012 02:34 AM Report

We heard, 'No longer talking about the Turkish model. Now we will have the Egyptian model. No longer waiting for the military for decades as the King maker. Soft power of democracy. Peaceful and did not cost anything. America not telling others their business.'

I hear you my brother.

(Perhaps you have a wee bit of pent up anger or perhaps it is well deserved national pride?)

SharkswithfrikingLazers  06/27/2012 02:31 AM Report

Perhaps a GI Bill for the Egyptian military?

It worked to keep our military from marching on Washington after World War II.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  06/27/2012 02:29 AM Report

Charlie, this could mean the end of al Qaeda and its roots in Egypt.

So what is the US of A doing to help?

We could cut billions and billions and billions in military spending if al Qaeda is fading to black. Let's drop dollars from drones to our Egyptian brothers!

Please make a phone call.

BENEZRAA  06/26/2012 04:38 PM Report

CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM

By reducing the powers of the Egyptian Presidency, by having clipped the wings of the Egyptian Parliament, and by recognizing a new President with history in the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's Military may have found the only viable balance of power by which to prevent a serious violent outbreak in Egypt. By now the secular elements in Egypt are only too painfully aware of their minority political insignificance, however valuable, important, and innovative they may be to their nation.

So the world watches now to see, whether or not this newly evolving governmental model will enable Egypt to remain stable, protect it's people, and keep it's treaties.

As our Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stated just few nights ago, Democracy is not so simple as to be a solitary election by which to impose a new exclusive totalitarian regime (interpretation mine, for her exact words, see last Wednesday's Charlie Rose Show 06/20/2012).

Does this election result imply a takeover of Egypt's Military by the Muslim Brotherhood? Does it imply a momentary pacification that must needs erupt into an Egyptian Civil War? Or does it imply a pragmatic working relationship inclusive of the two major forces in Egypt -- Military and Muslim Fundamentalism -- that may bring all of Egypt into the 21st-Century?

The measure of democracy is always the expression of the will of a majority that still respects and protects it's minorities. At this moment in history democracy in Egypt is possible. We shall see, if it is realized.

ShalomFreedman  06/26/2012 03:00 PM Report

There was not one word here about the possible deterioration which may be caused Egypt by its slowing being taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood. There was not one word about the threat to secular liberal forces, to the Copts, other minority forces. If History can be trusted Egypt is not on the road to a new birth of freedom but rather to a period where such small items as the rights of women and minorities are wholly undermined.

One wonders how any sane person can be thrilled by the rise to power of an Islamist group whose perception of the world is firmly rooted in the Middle Ages.

REMant  06/26/2012 11:47 AM Report

Tho I imagine Morsi was in fact elected, it is something of a concession by the military. However, I think Mr Mirazi, and the others here, need to re-acquaint themselves with the history. The military were the revolutionaries. They are still Western-leaning, if not the most-Western-leaning ppl in their respective countries. Ataturk and Sadat and Qaddafi were considered heros of anti-colonialism. There are some who think they are playing deep game, expecting the Islamists to lose favor with the public since they lack the power to deal in largess. But, whatever, the urban protestors will remain locked out, because they are not the majority, and will have to join one or the other. As I wrote last week, I think this will likely issue in the usual balanced constitution in time, because I think none of the parties is crazy enough to turn it into another Algeria.