Charlie Rose

topazgirl  06/04/2012 11:54 PM Report

REMant,tabs, BENEZRAA, Shalom'... Has anyone seen Gelles here lately? I miss his insight... Please share any info...

anne4444  06/02/2012 04:03 PM Report

Here are some different perspectives:

The universe in its origin, do not have any separation. All things are united as one.

Our next future is likely to be in the level of sharing through our souls, sharing the thoughts without privacy, sharing the pains with shame, sharing visions without limitation and sharing the joys without reservation.

Looking back, we were all very primitive animals, either ate others or be eaten. The money system made many families homeless. It can not be justified under the law for primitive beings. Anyone shall have the right to have a place in an unoccupied territory.

Please help to move us forwards toward future instead of backwards in the past.

Someone or some entity shall step up to do research on human soul. We may all carry little greys as our souls. Hopefully we will find out the answer…WHO WE TRULY ARE

ShalomFreedman  06/01/2012 09:42 AM Report

Since the so- called 'Arab spring' which Mr. Gerges is obviously so influenced by the very people he hypes here, the people who are most like himself, young intellectual secular Arabs have been wholly marginalized. The Arab spring has brought great new strength to the most reactionary forces in this world i.e. the Muslim Brotherhood. True these people are more anti-American than Mubarrak but they will soon reveal considering their state of impoverishment their need for U.S. and other economic aid. Others too will be calling on the U.S. when they are in trouble. And Saudi Arabia would not have its feudal princes in power still without U.S. support. So it is premature to think the U.S. role for good or ill is finished. And it is a mistake to see the present 'going backwards' as necessarily a long- term way of going forward.

griffinfinity  06/01/2012 05:08 AM Report

I enjoy Fawaz when he sits at Rose's table. First of all, he has a rapid fire update of what is REALLY going on in the world OUTSIDE of the USA (yes there is one). Second, he has a firm grasp on the probabilities, as best as one can, regarding the future. Thanks for the briefing on the days ahead Mr. Rose, and I will definitely not say that I was ignorant of their potential, pitfalls and progress...

ShalomFreedman  06/01/2012 02:59 AM Report

I do not know if the United States ever 'dominated' the Middle East. Did it ever dominate Syria? Did it ever dominate Saudi Arabia, or has it in effect been involved in a corrupt alliance with the Saudi feudal regime for seventy years?

The United States has withdrawn from Iraq. But who knows where it feels it will have to intervene next?

The United States now faces the Iranian nuclear threat including its long- time deceit in covering up its program.

Another important point. Gerges should asks the Kurds in Turkey about the 'integrated state'. He should also asks economists about the 'bubble' element in the Turkish economic situation.

BENEZRAA  05/31/2012 09:03 PM Report

IDEALISM AND HOPEFULNESS V. REALITY

Mr. Gerges expresses the idealism and hopefulness of Arabs seeking autonomy, freedom, and self expression. Yet, when push comes to shove, it is still the same essential camps that have the most actual power and organization. In the case of Egypt it is the Military v. the Muslim Brotherhood. The average Egyptian may find two potential imminent futures, once the voting is final: (1) election of the Military (2) election of the Muslim Brotherhood. So the question becomes, will these special interests easily give up power to the other, or, will they come to some kind of working agreement? Or even civil war? The average Egyptian may find the hopefulness of spring mitigated by the reality of a desert winter of new tyranny. One prays for the best. It would be wonderful to see true freedom in Egypt, where the culture and history is rich, yet, fundamentally formed in submission to pharoahs.

It is worth mentioning that for all the talk about the decline of American influence, there has been American influence in support of the Arab Spring. It is also worth noting that whatever flavor of despots may be in or out of power in Arab countries, be the flavors religious, secular, military, Sunni, Shia, Communist, or Capitalist, the USA will always be a convenient source of blame and distraction.

Thoughtful persons ought not be so quick to discount the importance and influence of the USA, nor it's future, nor it's fundamental goodness.

tabs  05/31/2012 06:02 PM Report

The following should sound familar to you by now Mr Rose. It does seem that things have a way of working out as one says they will.

From:tabs@

Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:51 PM

To: Charlie Rose

Subject: What we are seeing in Egypt

What we are seeing in Egypt is an undermining of the jihad's ideology as the only means of seeking an equitable society of fairness and justice under the laws of Allah. If one remembers it was Mohamed Atta the Egyptian who could not find a job at home with the higher education he had attained that flew one of the planes into the WTC on 911. If Atta had felt that he had control over his destiny in his own country than he would not have felt the need to grab it back by taking the Martyrs road. This Egyptian Revolution is defusing the fury that the Islamic jihad feeds on, for now the destiny of the people is in their own hands and not that of an authoritarian regime whether it be secular or religious. With these events in Egypt every two bit dictator, religious fanatic or tyrant from Timbuktu to Beijing should be afraid.

TABS

Ellen_Dibble  05/31/2012 01:00 PM Report

I think I'll buy that book, or maybe one for each room, one for each chair. Am I hearing someone reasonably addressing all that? What do I hear? How did we let him go to London and LSE? Anyway, thanks.

REMant  05/31/2012 12:08 PM Report

Shifted more by default, than anything intended by the admin, I'd say, and because those attacked, were clearly no longer much in the American sphere, which the president made clear. In other words, he invited these revolts, much as Bush Sr invited the Kurds'. That we are not now supporting them is clearly going to hurt, so I think it better to have said nothing to begin with. The analysis of Syria and the region generally is what I'd have argued except that our policy also involves some domestic political consideration. It may yet become an issue in the election. I think Mr Gerges a bit biased in the Sunni direction, and I'm not sure the Iranian revolution was ever looked up to. But asking these new govts to dispense with Sharia is akin to asking us to dispense with the law of torts.