Charlie Rose

chawlydollydoodah  04/21/2012 02:48 PM Report

... where happened 'Reasoner'? where did he go?

chawlydollydoodah  04/21/2012 02:46 PM Report

...'Club Med' in heaven awaits, where my 'equally rich' friend saves me a spot on the beach on Marta's Vineyard (or whatever that New England island is) with all your 'equally rich' neighbors go to relax away from all the 'not so rich' assholes that take up time and space in the rest of the world. And talk about all the great exciting and interesting things and places that we got to do all the time. Now, in heaven, we don't have to go back and worry about the free ride ending. the three musketeers Forever, Wallace, Rooney, and Safer (Morally) .. and sometimes Cronkite, maybe.

chawlydollydoodah  04/21/2012 02:35 PM Report

...wish I was, 'Morally Safer'

JohnGelles1  04/20/2012 08:29 AM Report

TG (sadp)~ 1-805-850-5045 ~9-to-915am-em/fb ng my fault

topazgirl  04/17/2012 05:01 PM Report

Topaz> Stephanie A. DePrima> Facebook

Gelles, see previous post on this thread...

topazgirl  04/15/2012 02:14 AM Report

...Wait, I'm a bit confused... Bill Moyers is distributed by American Public Television, not PBS, but I found the ad for his show on the Nova website... I clicked the ad, and there he was... I watched him online. Nova is PBS, right?

topazgirl  04/14/2012 02:56 PM Report

...This is off-topic (again!), but Bill Moyers is back on "Moyers and Company" PBS... He has a post/edit feature on his comments site...

SharkswithfrikingLazers  04/14/2012 02:58 AM Report

So if Mike Wallace was a pioneer of the surprise "ambush" interview then who does it well now?

Michael Moore with Dick Clark or Charlton Heston?

Perhaps Chris Hansen when he interviews predators just before they are arrested?

Steve Kroft has done his fair share.

eHow even helps you: http://www.ehow.com/how_4474996_conduct-ambush-interview.html

The ambush interview has given us some great drama over the decades.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  04/14/2012 02:50 AM Report

Charlie, it was good to see what a letter from Mike Wallace did to you.

Here is another story about Mike Wallace that I liked:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2012-04-11/mike-wallace-60-minutes/54180972/1

It shows what power the telephone and the words "This is Mike Wallace from 60 Minutes" had and ironically the lack of power that still required help from others to get the interview.

topazgirl  04/13/2012 11:54 PM Report

...ah, my dear Gelles... So much to tell, even though the most exceptional parts of my life were mostly the times and place I grew up... With the boom of aerospace, and the hippy movement, and the war protests in Isla Vista, and the clean air, and wide-open spaces of California in the 60's and 70's, it was the only place to be!

As a child, my Dad was God to me... as an adolescent, I started to question his "omnipotence"... He was a die-hard Republican, and I was his free-spirited flower-child. When the news would come on, and Nixon was giving a speech, or some such thing, he would deliberately say "I like that guy!", knowing it would spur me into a political and ideological debate with him. His twinkling blue eyes would give him away when he'd say "I think that's nonsense", and I'd leave the room in tears because "he just doesn't understand what is going on in the World!"... This out-burst was to a man who had, just years before, sat in a locked-down bunker at Vandenberg AFB, watching a radar screen, with his finger on a button that, within seconds (not minutes!), would send nuclear missiles to Cuba! ...God, I was so innocent in my self-righteous liberal ideology, those days... Remembering all this makes me smile and shake my head.

I will tell you more at another time, as I'm sure by now the "intellectuals" on this site are rolling their eyes at the ramblings of this naive "California girl"...

Thank-you, my dearest Gelles, for allowing me this much, for now. I will reveal more later... Oh, I almost forgot! ...Topaz, because I was born in November!

Gelles  04/13/2012 08:03 AM Report

Dear TG,

I spent half an hour in private conversation, alone together, with RO -- on a train from NYC heading south in 1953. We were sitting away from each other, each alone -- and I recognized him. I asked him if he were Dr. Oppenheimer. He is the only famous person I ever met.

I was 28, working for Touche Niven. He was 49, the father of the atomic bomb. He asked me if I would like a beer. To my later regret, I politely declined. We talked about the age at which mathematicians were most creative and about public television and the BBC. I was extremely pleased to have had a conversation with him: he was so famous a scholar. I did not and have never asked for an autograph. But I also did not do much more than that -- all that I did was to meet him by accident.

Tell us more stories of you and your Dad. I've lived 38 years in Ventura. I expect to live a few more in Carlsbad. I had lived in NYC from age 9 to 17, 20 to 29 and 38 to 40 -- about half as long as in Southern California.

Tell us of your jeweled nom de plume. Topics are meant to be open.

topazgirl  04/13/2012 03:47 AM Report

...Anyway, back to the topic, gentlemen...

topazgirl  04/13/2012 03:29 AM Report

Gelles...

I'm so excited that I can't focus on Mike right now! Did you really meet Oppenheimer? He was my Dad's hero! My Dad worked at Vandenberg AFB as a "fire-tracker" for the missile launches...(I vividly remember the day of the Cuban Missile Crisis, but that is a story for another time...) Even when I was a child, Dad would try to explain quantum mechanics, and black holes to me.

...And you mentioned Ventura? I grew up in Santa Barbara County (S.B. and Lompoc...)... When my friends and I got the "munchies" on our way to L.A. concerts, we would inevitably stop there...

BENEZRAA  04/12/2012 09:28 PM Report

A NICELY DONE REMEMBRANCE OF MIKE WALLACE

Thank you, Mr.'s Rose, Fager, Safer, and Kroft.

With some well made homemade lemonade, I shall toast Mike Wallace, his professional legacy, and those carrying on today in the journalistic tradition Mr. Wallace embodied.

Gelles  04/12/2012 11:41 AM Report

Well Neil,

You're right. Enough nonsense.

There is a new book out: "Paper Promises, Debt, Money and the New World Order". It's by Philip Coggan.

It tackles the subject of money systems, employment, and economic output as the big pie of necessities and junk that our children will produce, sell, buy, consume and own, in the future. It is about what Keynes studied in relation to wars and depressions.

Our President has failed to lead this nation to the greatness Keynes found in us. But Keynes also found our stubbornness when it comes to change to accept the meaning of his research:

..... "Nations can afford with money to buy all the necessities they can produce."

You may counter, "No John. Not with money, but with profit."

I reply, "No Neil, We can afford to succeed with money. Profit and loss accounting needs to be reformed to accomplish real purposes."

NeilMacCallister  04/12/2012 04:44 AM Report

John! ..John!!!! ..Why are you worrying about "New York Jews", when our current President is selling us all over to the slave-running Democrats, ..and into dire poverty for our children, our grandchildren, and great-grandchildren???

What the Hell are you thinking?????

Gelles  04/12/2012 02:27 AM Report

What is a Ne York Minute? Wikipedia reveals it is an instant: or as Johnny Carson once said, it's the interval between a Manhattan traffic light turning green and the guy behind you [who immigrated from Denver] honking his horn."

What is a New York Jew? Wikipedia reveals such person is fast talking, funny and obnoxious. Of course, this depends on what the meaning of is, is.

Why does REM admit he dislikes some or all NY Jews? Because some or all of them dislike him. I dislike him. To me he is a constant idiot. He misses Herbert Hoover, the magician, who beat the great depression before his lost the election held in 1932.

Why be nice if you can be sour and full of loathing for other people: Sartre, not a Jew, concluded that "hell" was other people.

What about Wallace. Was he a Journalist or a Rabbi? What is REM? Man or Lemon?

Mike Wallace' family name was once Wallik (if memory serves). His ancestors were Jewish.

Alfred Kazin, the distinguished intellectual writer, was a New York Jew who wrote the book with that name. I really like him as a writer -- not having ever met him.

I did meet Robert Oppenheimer. He was a New York Jew from Berkley, Los Alamos, New York and Princeton.

I'm hoping to sell this home in Ventura and move to Carlsbad, California -- home of the New York Jews tennis team.

Look. Charlie Rose and Mike Wallace were friends. That's a good thing not a bad thing. REM, whomever he is, has had enough of Wallace -- so what. Has he had enough of me? Enough to eat? Enough first comments on this archive's pages?

Good night.

topazgirl  04/12/2012 02:19 AM Report

I loved Mike Wallace... He started at CBS the year I was born. I grew up thinking he WAS the news! I'm glad I was too young to know that being a Massachusetts Jew was supposed to be a bad thing... After all, I was born in Boston! I loved his chutzpah (is that the right word, Gelles?) 60 Minutes was not the same without him, and I will miss him dearly...

Gelles  04/12/2012 01:34 AM Report

Mike Wallace was a Brookline, Massachusetts Jew.

John Gelles was, all his life, a New York Jew -- although he was never elected to that position, and may be a bad example.

REM, the lemon-sucking sour-puss, dislikes New York Jews. He also generalizes that Jews are often clinically depressed. Gelles often depresses and disappoints. He even gets depressed when REM does not admire him.

With Wallace sick and now dead, he is absent just when an antagonist like REM the lemon appears to do battle with Will Rogers.

Will Rogers, part Indian and not a Jew, met many Jews -- and he worked with them in the entertainment industry.

Rogers never met a man he did not like. I'm with Will. He liked the Jews REM dislikes.

I have had enough of REM the lemon.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  04/12/2012 01:06 AM Report

A fantastic movie is "The Insider". A research chemist comes under personal and professional attack when he decides to appear in a "60 Minutes" expose on Big Tobacco.

That was a test that "60 Minutes" failed miserably. After that story I lost a great deal of respect for "60 Minutes".

Here are some memorable quotes from the movie that give you a feel for Mike Wallace:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0140352/quotes

SharkswithfrikingLazers  04/11/2012 07:33 PM Report

So Zoloft made him functional. One wonders what would have happened to "Mike Malice" without it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sertraline#Medical_uses

SharkswithfrikingLazers  04/11/2012 07:22 PM Report

Charlie, orange make-up again.

You might have your guests orange up too so you don't blast it or have your ears done and avoid profile shots.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  04/11/2012 07:20 PM Report

I think Mike and Don Hewitt did fantastic work together in their "News Blacksmith Shoppe".

Without them "60 Minutes" now drifts and I hear myself saying, "Why the h-ll did they go in that direction?".

"Under Hewitt's leadership, 60 Minutes was the only news program ever rated the nation's top-ranked television program, an achievement it accomplished five times.[3]"

Hewitt left at age 81. Wallace made it to 88 plus.

Charlie, you just turned 70 and are working two jobs buddy.

Max83  04/11/2012 02:45 PM Report

I do not know to much about Mr. Wallace, but I very much agree with him that the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin was the most tragic thing that has ever happened to the State of Israel and its people. I was only 12 years old at that time, but I knew intuitively and from having read the newspaper ever since I had been 7 years of age every morning that this assassination had huge unfortunately negative implications for the Middle East Peace Process and the State of Israel, and even World Peace. This post if somewhat off topic, but I just wanted to acknowledge, how still at this time, tragic the death of Yitzhak Rabin is/was and I am glad Mr. Wallace pointed this out as well. Thank you to Mr. Rose for including this issue and Mr. Wallace's response to it in this piece.

ShalomFreedman  04/11/2012 02:34 PM Report

Charlie Rose again shows his special class, and character, his ability to appreciate others for the best that they have.

REMant  04/11/2012 12:16 PM Report

I'd seen too much Wallace in my life. It was indeed time to ask him to leave. What made 60 Mins was the number of scoops it got, not his grandstands. While I appreciate some of the investigative reports he did (or his producers did), it was too often mere sensationalism, and brought out his sheer churlishness. reminding me why I dislike Jewish New Yorkers. And he shared - may have even originated - the priggishness seen in almost everything his old network does. ABC News has transformed itself into a prime time edition of The View; CBS remains the scold of the West.

Manic-depression is found disproportionately in the Jewish population, incidentally, but in retrospect, and no matter what you think about the handling of the Vietnam situation, Westmoreland accomplished as much as a military commander could have, and as in Afghanistan today, there were really no other options save departure. While some of his compatriots appear to have been genuinely opposed to the war, it would seem Wallace was opposed only to the way it was prosecuted.

All reporters have to walk a fine line between being shils and helpful to the public. Personally, I think this sort of interviewing ought to be either avoided altogether, or the subject be given enough rope he'll hang himself with it. What I'd certainly avoid are those who will gain more from the association than their appearance deserves. I once interviewed a general who said nothing, so I wrote nothing. I think I did him a favor, altho he didn't agree.

Asking Horowitz to play Stars and Stripes Forever reminded me of Edward R Murrow's inane Person to Person show, if not the self-aggrandizing (the only word I can come up with to capture it) Playboy After Dark. It was Life magazine's shtick come to think of it, and that you don't see much of that kind of thing anymore may speak more to disenchantment than Hofstadter's anti-intellectualism.