In order to download Charlie Rose podcasts to iTunes for transfer to an iPod, you must have iTunes installed. If you do, please click the following link to download the podcast for this interview:
itpc://www.charlierose.com/view/itunes/12237
Otherwise, close this window to continue viewing.
Close
Page 1 of 1
Page 1 of 1
finalfantasytown 03/25/2012 09:41 PM Report
Chinese communist party currently needs courage, confidence, and wisdom to take the left wing from easten Germany and form the pole. Also the government has to be military strong. Some Chinese peoples have taken advantages of government policy to manipulate real estate, and stock to rob money and fill their greed on money. They even use money to control media, education, spy network in order to weaken people, poison people, and break Chinese communist party and government. If it is necessary, operate political purge and cultural revolution. Chinese communist party needs support. The history of Human being, I believe, is one-way. When physicists show us the physical world is composed of infinite small and infinite large, it is clear that we are stuck in the maze. Each time when histories have repeated, natural resources counting down the time human being in this world have been wasted, certainly time has been wasted. The whole nature has beared the burden from us. No one with shame will say human being, who has several thousand years history, is still young. Simutaneously, we put ourselves closer to the hopeless. So let's form two poles, one explores the way we were in, and the other explores the way we are going out.
Gelles 03/19/2012 05:05 AM Report
- END ALL TAXES, THAT IS, EXCEPT TAXES PROVEN TO PREVENT TOO MUCH INFLATION THAT MAY HARM THE WORK ETHIC THAT TAXES MAY BE USED (TOGETHER WITH HIGH EFFECTIVE WAGES) TO SUPPORT THE PUBLIC INTEREST. Taxes by themselves preserve wage slavery.
Gelles 03/19/2012 04:59 AM Report
- UP THE MIDDLE CLASS!
- END ALL TAXES !
- END THE RULE OF DEBT BY ADVANCING EQUITY AS OUR FINANCIAL FOUNDATION !
- ADVANCE PLANNING VIA COST ACCOUNTING VERSUS MINDLESS COMPETITION AND PROFIT AND LOSS ACCOUNTING !
- REPLACE THE IRS WITH AN ECONOMIC SECURITY AGENCY !
- IMPOSE INFLATION PROTECTED SAVINGS ON OUR CENTRAL BANK AND FEDERAL DEPOSIT PROTECTION SYSTEM !
- LIMIT CONGRESSIONAL SALARIES AND TOTAL TAKE HOME WEALTH TO THREE TIMES THE AMERICAN INDIVIDUAL MEDIAN TAKE HOME WEALTH -- SAY, TO $100,000 PER YEAR. MORE THAN THIS GUARANTEES RULE BY THE RICH AGAINST THE PUBLIC INTEREST !
- ADD YOUR OWN IMPERATIVES !!
Gelles 03/19/2012 04:50 AM Report
It can be argued that Walmart and Boeing and the Republicans and Democrats had NO CHOICE but to join the RACE TO THE BOTTOM -- THE RACE TO DESTROY OUR MIDDLE CLASS AND KEEP THEIR MIDDLE CLASS AFRAID OF THE POLICE.
But we in these comments do not buy this. We believe we have a choice. But after that agreement, we disagree on all else.
Gelles 03/19/2012 04:42 AM Report
[ Repeating from the last few lines in
posting 03/19/2012 04:09 AM: ]
.
SUBJECT: Rule Through Backdoor Consensus and often Stilted Slogans. [This phrase is a good subtopic IDEA that sums up politics and its discussion during the current Republican contest for nomination of the American president for November 2011, as well as of Chinese political processes leading up to their changes coming earlier than ours.]
"Analysts have noted that no one in the top leadership has publicly praised Bo or the crackdown on organized crime.
"On Wednesday, Premier Wen Jiabao told his annual news conference that Chongqing's leadership should reflect on the Wang incident, and also obliquely criticized Bo's drive to revive songs and culture from the heyday of Mao's Communist revolution." [... end repeat from post below]
.
Can we do better than argue with STILTED SLOGANS -- here or in China ?
Both Chinese and American people have unmet needs that fit the description "economic well being -- needing a job, a roof overhead and food on the table."
Both also need to live under a system that seeks their CONSENT to political policies and processes that rule their lives.
But each needs to be comfortable with their opposite nation, lest we become ENEMIES -- as we did with Russia and America after defeating Germany in 1945.
American BACKDOOR CONSENSUS to promote CORPORATE FINANCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL POWER in its drive to reduce the middle class to beggars as the super rich ignored democracy's imperatives and fostered a return RULE BY THE RICH AND IGNORANT and not by a popular educated class of REPRESENTATIVES of the public and national interest -- not, in other words, in accordance with the PREAMBLE of the American Constitution.
In recent years, the backdoor attempt to make money for Walmart, Boeing and others, has moved manufacturing away from high cost middle class nations to low cost wage slave nations like China and India.
If representatives of wage-earners on China and America cannot make common cause, both will be the losers.
Gelles 03/19/2012 04:09 AM Report
From Reuters -- at the Teachable Moment -- posted by member of the audience for educational non-commercial purposes, in accordance with copyright law:
By Ben Blanchard and Chris Buckley
Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:30am EDT
BEIJING (Reuters) -
The writing was perhaps already on the wall for Bo Xilai, the controversial former top official of China's southwestern city of Chongqing, when he appeared at this month's parliamentary meeting, alternately chastened and combative.
In past parliament sessions Bo has swept in, all smiles and lanky grace, preceded by a wave of TV cameras and popping flashbulbs, but last week he was uncharacteristically restrained when he appeared at a rare and packed news conference on the sidelines of the annual meeting.
Bo rolled his eyes at repeated questions from foreign reporters about a scandal involving a one-time top aide, then-Vice Mayor Wang Lijun, and the normally effusive state media and parliament delegates kept their distance.
Wang Lijun, Bo's longtime former police chief, went to ground in the U.S. Consulate in nearby Chengdu last month until he was coaxed out and placed under investigation.
"I certainly never expected this," Bo said of Wang's flight. "I felt that it happened extremely suddenly."
News of his own change of fortune came just as suddenly.
On Thursday, a terse report from the official Xinhua news agency announced that Beijing had sacked Bo from his post, all but snuffing out his chances of rising in a Party leadership transition late this year.
The outspoken Chongqing party chief had mounted a daring bid for the nation's top political body, the Party's Politburo Standing Committee, by appealing to millions with no vote -- journalists, common people and Internet users.
He captured national attention with a crackdown on gangs and corrupt police officers in Chongqing, China's teeming wartime capital, and brought about stronger economic development and sharper growth. But he also alienated political peers.
The anti-mafia campaign nabbed thousands of people, including the city's powerful police chief, and tapped into popular anger over the corruption and collusion that has accompanied China's economic boom.
"Fighting organized crime is for the sake of letting the people enjoy peace and creating a clean social environment in Chongqing," Bo said last week, defending his record.
"We are sure of ourselves and free of regrets."
TOO MUCH FLAIR?
Bo, a former China commerce minister and mayor of the northeastern port city of Dalian where he wooed foreign investors, dresses sharply and has a flair for the dramatic.
His directness and independent streak impressed foreigners but annoyed peers, who prefer to rule through backdoor consensus and often stilted slogans.
Analysts have noted that no one in the top leadership has publicly praised Bo or the crackdown on organized crime.
On Wednesday, Premier Wen Jiabao told his annual news conference that Chongqing's leadership should reflect on the Wang incident, and also obliquely criticized Bo's drive to revive songs and culture from the heyday of Mao's Communist revolution.
===== END OF EXTRACT FROM REUTERS =====
This extract serves to offer names and ideas that were not easy to catch from the Charlie Rose video under discussion.
Additional opinion may follow from poster, Gelles, or other readers of these comments.
Gelles 03/18/2012 09:31 AM Report
Fortunately for us (fingering our keyboards), we have English speakers Richard McGregor of the Financial Times and Damien Ma, China analyst at Eurasia Group, to explain Chines news as it happens.
Eurasia Group is a New York based political risk and consulting firm specializing on Asia -- something like Kissinger Associates?)
Damien Ma is a China analyst at the Eurasia Group who also writes for the Atlantic and other US opinion fountains.
He writes on Chinese energy policies and climate change, politics, innovation, U.S.-China relations, social policies, and Internet policies, among other topics. He has written for Slate, The New Republic, and Forbes.
All the above comes via Google on my task bar. It was a fast grab by me -- and is far from complete and reliably accurate.
My point is to consider extremely important ideas, like what is politics all about -- here or in China, today or yester-year? This discussion assumes politics is a study of power applied to promote policy or nothing more than its position relative to its competition for naked power alone.
We use the left-right display to separate the left promoting the "have-nots" to obtain a better deal, from its opponents on the right promoting the "have's" in their desire to keep all they have and add more on top of it.
We use "futurists" and "historians" as another convenient pair to find friends for the left wanting change and for the right wanting to stand still or go back to where they wish they were.
These pairs are far too benign to mean much -- so we switch to "good" and "evil" to really sink our teeth into the "meat" of discourse -- leading soon to war. That is, until WMD's made war a lose-lose proposition for fighters on all sides.
Is there an American politics based on good looks and the desire for liberty, equality, fraternity and sex? And if there is, how well does it translate to a 9 man ruling party team afraid of military leaders with political smarts as good as they get?
It looks to me as though China has problem (not a diamond) -- and it is a problem as big as the Ritz. Ritz Carlton that is -- meaning too big to solve or hide.
Russia, China, Europe, Japan, America and India? Are these too many players? It seems to me they number less than 9.
Nine is the magic number to find political unity and forestall war forever. Are there 9 in this audience to empower it to overcome dis-unity, anarchy, and faction?
..... Hell no. We are not a party, force, or member of anything at all. We are individuals. And we have no coherent model of what we want -- or do not want -- at great or minimal cost. We are the people -- and Heaven help us. We hate the people and they hate us. Welcome to Chimerica.
SharkswithfrikingLazers 03/16/2012 04:49 PM Report
Charlie, you need someone like George Clooney on this.
I wasn't following and it sounded like an exercise in who knew the most Chinese names and could actually pronounce them.
Perhaps some graphics?
REMant 03/16/2012 11:24 AM Report
How can a corrupt Communist, be a Western-style politician? Well maybe the answer lies in asking how a Western-style politician can be a corrupt Communist. Either you need Western reforms or you need Communist reforms, unless you happen to be of a certain persuasion that sees them somehow identical. Not understanding that, I had the strong feeling the participants in this discussion were talking at cross purposes the entire time. I also have the feeling this is of far less import than has been touted, and that it is similar to the situation in Russia.