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Coverage of Florida's Republican Primary with Al Hunt of Bloomberg News; Jeff Greenfield of PBS; Katty Kay of BBC World News America; Mark Halperin of TIME Magazine; Matthew Dowd of ABC News and Bloomberg News
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BENEZRAA 08/30/2012 01:26 PM Report
KATTY KAY HAS IT SO RIGHT: ANNE ROMNEY SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE FEMALE VOTER {BUT, ALSO TO MANY MEN}.
Anne Romney speaks to American Women, having made the most significant speech of the RNC. She impresses that What America Needs Is A Good Husband, and this will appeal across many demographics. The "I am just a coal miner's daughter... (Loretta Lynn)" appeal may consolidate the vote of the Aspiring Poor -- after all, the Aspiring Poor are proudly independent, often to a fault, and many political operatives will always deliberately take advantage these "Believers" (I know I heard that phrase used twice already in podium speeches Tuesday evening). The appeal of the American Need for a Good Husband goes not only to the economic need, it also goes to the emotional need for Normal Family Life. This is a rising tide that seeks to separate out from the Liberalism of the Obama Family Model. President Obama and First Lady Obama are themselves a model of a Normal Family. The distinction is that First Lady Obama in addition to being an Housewife is also a Professional [attorney]. Anne Romeny is an Housewife devoted only to her Husband and Children and not otherwise employed [please correct me, if I am factually mistaken]. Another distinction is that President Obama has come out in support of Gay Marriage and is not and has not enforced the Defense of Marriage Act [please correct me, if I am factually mistaken], and on his Watch "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" bit the dust. "Normal Family" (not "Common Family") as a Pillar of National Integrity continues to be a bona fide credo of the Republican Party, is no secret agenda of Romney nor of the Republican Party nor the RNC in progress. Conservative Democrats and Independents may feel torn between the sensibility to favor Family Integrity in The Law versus the sensibility to not give The Rich, The Banks, and The Offshore Interests a Blank Check at the expense of the poor and the disenfranchised.
winter 02/08/2012 01:19 AM Report
The debates to come between Obama and the gop will have organizing principles for civilization as we know it in the 21st century itself on display or even on trial if you will. Whatever else is thought of the President most would give him the gift of considered articulation. Will the evidence set forth be received with understanding and a consideration for how best to avoid a headfirst plunge into the abyss? It took Clint Eastwood himself giving the nation the Gipper speech to pacify our fears if only for a minute. "The Money" has learned to immunize itself from any hope of regulatory antibiotics neutralizing its influence.
Schooner93 02/02/2012 11:49 PM Report
Matt Dowd is remarkably naive when he says Chris Christie cannot run due to embarrassments that would be revealed by a background search. New Jersey is famous for its hardball politics. The temporary governor who replaced Christy Whitman when she went to EPA was forced to withdraw due to revelations by conservative Republicans. Jim McGreevey's “I am a gay American” resignation is thought by some to be the less damaging alternative to misconduct charges. As Federal Prosecutor Christie took on corruption in the counties of NJ. As governor he has taken on the most powerful union and entrenched machine interests. It is difficult to believe his enemies have overlooked earlier misconduct.
I think Chris Christie will run when the timing is right. That is not now while he has work to do in New Jersey and establishment Republicans have other candidates in mind this time.
chawlydollylama 02/02/2012 06:24 PM Report
I Never Voted for a Democrat in my life, but I'm looking forward to voting for Obama (unless Buddy Roemer is running against him). It will be my pleasure; the tea party my ass, Army Dick and the rest of them can go to Hell, where they came from. .. and where they belong.
SharkswithfrikingLazers 02/02/2012 02:42 PM Report
Despite a growing population, approximately 300,000 fewer Republicans voted this week than four years ago.
I think Super PACs had something to do with it.
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/769245/romney_does_great_in_florida%3A_gop_not_so_much/
Sorry Charlie, I had to change the channel to C-SPAN.
US 2012 CBO Economic Outlook by Douglas Elmendorf
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/US2
Unemployment above 8% this year and next and stays above 7% until it gets to 5% in next decade.
The recession ended 2.5 years ago and slow recovery and will stay slow for next two years.
The Economy trumps a Florida primary!
chawlydollylama 02/01/2012 07:31 PM Report
These Idiots!
His name is 'Buddy Roemer'!
A-Holes!
chawlydollylama 02/01/2012 07:23 PM Report
At least with Romney, there will be a real debate for the Presidency; and not some stupid far-right vs. far-left Bullshit WASTE OF TIME, which is what it would be if Das Newt were nominated.
Let me run the debates, and show these knuckleheads how to do their job!
chawlydollylama 02/01/2012 07:11 PM Report
What 'Das Newt' fans don't understand is that, he isn't what they think he is. He'll sell out the REAL conservative middle-class in a heartbeat; he already did. He's bought, sold, signed, sealed and delivered, he's yours (if you're a Lobbyist). And if elected President, he'll gladly Steal More, when he repeals the Volcker Rule (the same Volcker, Reagan knew). so he and his Sugardaddies can CHEAT the REAL conservative middle-class people who really work).
He and his Sugardaddies probably think they make for good suckers. Working so hard, not even noticing the shit they pull.
tabs 02/01/2012 05:16 PM Report
Now comes Part Two:
One wonders why it is that Newt Gingrich is so reviled by the Republican establishment? To begin with one has to think that he was exiled politically long ago for his transgressions as Lucifer was thrown out of heaven, and this bid for the Presidency is his comeback from the wilderness of his political exile tour. Yet none of his former colleagues have any sympathy for Newt or are buying his penance routine So what was Newts great sin that has made him so reviled among Republican stalwarts? The answer lies in his petulance when things don't go his way, he acts like a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum. One can just see Newt as a 3 year old "Mommas smart little prince" stomping around, throwing things and hollering at the top of his lungs. But this isn't at the heart of the loathing for Newt, it is his arrogant imperious treatment of his "less smart" colleagues when he is on top that galls them. What one can conclude is that there is a part of Newt that has never gotten past the spoiled, impish little 3 year old. The other part of this is that Newt will not bend a knee for the good of the Party as he thinks he knows better than they do.
tabs 02/01/2012 04:24 PM Report
Why would anybody want to run for President when...
1. The examination of ones personal life will be akin to being striped naked and run through a gauntlet
2. Since one can't please everyone, ones every action will be pillared in a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation
3. Since the problems facing America have grown to Titanic proportions and the system has become increasingly dysfunctional ones ability to rectify the situation has become diminished.
tyrrell 02/01/2012 03:32 PM Report
Just finished watching this segment. Ron Paul IS the anti establishment populous candidate raising money through individual donations online, loved by independents and youth. You and your panel made me crazy asking each other "Who, who could that candidate be?". I was talking to my tv like my husband does with sports...geez, what's wrong with you people? VERY disappointed! Very little consideration given to Ron Paul...he is favored to win a few caucus states...delegates! Seriously, no respect?
winter 02/01/2012 12:48 PM Report
The longer republicans stay out in the light the more its evident that their way of conducting business should collapse under the weight of its obsolescence. Take their stance on taxes. They've gotten by with fooling the public that they're the ones holding the line against big bad government tax policies but how long did it take to discover that it was a ruse to protect their wealthy patrons. Hold it up to the light long enough and eventually
the truth of it comes out. And, not only do republicans not want to reform finance, they actually have Billionaires Boys Club out in front as their choice. Last time they gave us a Skull and Bones coke sniffing inheriter to the throne TWICE and they're doing it again. Doomed to boggled.
REMant 02/01/2012 11:40 AM Report
First, a lot of registered Democrats may have switched over and voted for Romney since there was no contest on the other side. As I understand it, they could if done by Jan 3. And there was a LOT more early voting than four yrs ago, possibly before the SC results were known (another clear case for ruling it unconstitutional). Absentee ballots could have been cast more than a month ago. Even so the fact that Paul decided to put in only a token appearance in Florida is, I think, significant.
There are a lot of older ppl in Florida, obviously, who favor boys of the Dan Quayle sort seemingly favored by the Bush-Dole set, but who are also looking for as much as they can get out of government, and it would seem they either haven't read or don't believe many of Romney's 59 points. They may be right about the latter. And don't forget a Bush occupied the governor's mansion until 2007.
The space-related sector no doubt felt the same way as the old folks, as did those in the tourism business, and the folks facing foreclosure. In a lot of ways Florida like Nevada and California was a boom state. But it is hard to say what these ppl think will be done about it, or whom they blame for it. Conservatism is mostly a rural thing, or as the enthusiasts like to call it "old economy." However, it is economic.
It seems to have been forgotten also that Romney came in a fairly close second to McCain last time. While I would think a McCain endorsement to be the kiss of death, it may play well with those of a hawkish bent and/or with a vested interest in the Federal govt, tho I would think the Latinos, who make up 11-12% of the population, are none too happy with Romney's immigration stance, even if they would like the US to intervene in their homelands. I wonder tho what McCain gets out of it.
But I don't think the debates or ads mattered all that much to ppl who knew something about the candidates, tho of course many don't. It has been so long since Gingrich was in office much of the electorate has only a vague idea of him. The indications are that their negativity hurt the purveyors as much as the targets, but particularly a candidate who would have much rather wrapped himself in the flag and left it at that. That's I suppose why all the coronation choruses. There's much to be said for the argument the PACs have not been helpful to either candidate fortunes or electorate integrity, and that it would be better if ads all had to be signed off on by the campaigns publicly.
I am not enamored of the personal qualities of either one of these guys, both chickenhawks and more than a bit sleazy, nor of their domestic and foreign policy statements. But this is a race tailor-made for a Reagan-style candidate, in which I expect there to be a lot of demagoguery, tho I'm not at all sure which of the two will claim the Gipper's mantle, because there are aspects of the man in both of them. While I'm sure the Romney ppl will be very good at it, Gingrich is bound to pick up a significant number of delegates before all is said and done, particularly in the South.
Balanced and insightful and a good discussion.