Continued discussion about Iran

with Gary Sick, David Ignatius and John Miller
in Current Affairs
on Thursday, January 12, 2012 * * * * *

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Continued discussion about Iran with David Ignatius of "The Washington Post," Gary Sick of Columbia University and former FBI official John Miller

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    1. OBSERVER  01/14/2012 01:28 PM Report

      The United States as the Superpower is the superior force, with all the brains, able to formulate & Implement SOUND POLICIES.

      SANCTIONS (How is it Working?):

      ===============================

      1) All Iranian Seniors abroud who are dependent on

      their HomeLand LIFE TIME Saving will loose

      ALL to the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC!!

      2) It took TWO YEARS Paper Work in Iran, to send

      a $50,000 Inheritance of a Grand Daughter abroad,

      it is BLOCK! She is waiting in Months!

      3) At Least 3:00 BILLION DOLLARS Fraud Reported in Banking

      History of Iran; It vanished in Thin Air, NO CHARGES,

      NO PENALTY, NO ARREST, as it was done by the Regime's

      Elites. The heads of these banks are now abroad. Business

      as usual!! Whereas Three SMALL Bank Robbers are Executed

      in Kermaanshaah, west of Iran, by the Islamic Republic.

      4) The Regime's Elites travel First Class by KLM, LuftHanza,

      ETC. No Problem for them!! Ordinary Iranians Travel by

      Iran Air , which is denied SPARE PARTS and Even FUEL

      ABROAD!

      SOUND POLICIES!!!!

      A few References Below:

      http://www.payvand.com/news/12/jan/1050.html

      (Three Bank Robbers Executed in Kermaanshaah!)

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/business/2011/10/111004_l23_embezzlement_iran_ao_main.shtml

      (THE BIGGEST BANKING CORRUPTION IN THE IRANIAN HISTORY!)

      http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/20/iranian-canadian-banker-under-investigation

      (Iranian Banker Under Investigation)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw-6gZOS4sE&feature=player_embedded#!

      (Emergency Landing OF Iran AIR)

      SOUND POLICIES!!!!

    2. john_q_public  01/14/2012 01:25 PM Report

      It is kind of disgusting that these experts have to decide whether or not the government is telling the truth. This implies that often they don't tell the truth. If so, then why should I listen to anything they say?

    3. Plzntsurprise  01/14/2012 04:50 AM Report

      With all the respect, I think the professor who went to Najaf and felt good about what the Ayatollah's is so off base and naive, it is embarrassing. Also, he talked about Ahmadinejad and his desire to make a deal, another example of his naivete. They are just giving you the run-around, and if you new more about the culture, you would not have fallen into these traps. It is sad how policy makers trust these people who make no sense. Rose mentions Mr. Friedman as his friend, another big ego over-shadowing reason and intellect. We are doomed, really doomed, with people like this dictating the course of US policy...

    4. SharkswithfrikingLazers  01/14/2012 02:20 AM Report

      The Strait of Hormuz is a vital artery for transporting about one-fifth of the world’s oil supply. It is only 34 miles wide at the narrowest part.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Hormuz

      If the Iranians just dumped some mines in to it to float around, and explode at will, then look out World!

    5. SharkswithfrikingLazers  01/14/2012 02:15 AM Report

      The scariest thing said was that the sanctions are like a blockade and that they are taking away 50% of Iran's National Revenue.

      I sure hope this is not an act of war.

    6. SharkswithfrikingLazers  01/14/2012 02:06 AM Report

      Harsh interrogation is what the Russians use to get confessions so they don't have to waste money on justice.

      It is not about truth. It is about expediency.

      This has been known for decades and decades yet we act like we can somehow change the results from harsh interrogation.

      We must protect ourselves from human nature while insuring human worth.

    7. SharkswithfrikingLazers  01/14/2012 02:00 AM Report

      “The denials by the US should be taken seriously.”

      Yes now go home and look in the mirror and say that three times without laughing.

      Really, concerning Iran?

    8. SharkswithfrikingLazers  01/14/2012 01:57 AM Report

      Theodore Karasik, a security expert at the Dubai-based Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis, said the use of magnetic bombs bears the hallmarks of covert operations.

      Yes Iran is a big country but covert actions can stop their program. If I am now working in the nuclear field in Iran do I want to risk being the next to die?

      Remember Wernher von Braun? SS Major Kummer ordered Wernher's science team to be executed if they were about to fall into enemy hands. Wernher's brother Magnus found some Americans and surrendered to them.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun#Surrender_to_the_Americans

      So there are key personnel that make or break a program.

    9. REMant  01/13/2012 10:40 PM Report

      Mark Perry today in Foreign Policy http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/13/false_flag?page=0,0 described how the US discovered that Mossad masquerading as CIA recruited Pakistanis to carry out such attacks in Iran in the past, suggesting that they may still be and the source of this latest assassination.

    10. tabs  01/13/2012 04:50 PM Report

      Now comes Part 2:

      Contrary to the belief of some Mr Rose is not a good interrogator. Some have recently criticized that Mr Rose tends to step on his interviewees answers before they are finished with their train of thought. True enough, but this is a minor sin and it is not the determinant of ones assessment. Mr Rose routinely misses the sentence or two that a number of his guests say, that if he had caught, as in not go right by him like a fastball, he could have opened up a whole new chapter of being able to get to know what his guests are truly all about. For example during the Damien Hirst segment of last evenings show Mr Rose missed the most important thing that Mr Hirst had to say and that was, "That you first have to get them to listen to you and then you can go about changing minds."

    11. tabs  01/13/2012 04:16 PM Report

      An e-mail sent to Mr Rose on 11/20/11 as commentary for the Larijani interview on 11/18/11.

      All is not as it seems in the byzantine world of Iranian politics. Positions of power and titles have little meaning in this world. It maybe stating the obvious that Mr Larijani is one of the small group of men that do wield true power in Iran. There were several give aways during the interview that denoted such power and they were his use of the word "We" in describing a national policy decision. and when he described his loss of his seat in parliament and that he "could serve elsewhere." This meant that his loss of his seat in parliament didn't decrease his power by one iota, he just changed job descriptions. If one wanted to effect Iranian policy one would call Mr Larijani.

      Further during the interview Mr Larijani was not shy about contradicting Mr Rose, which left Mr Rose stuttering and grasping for words at times. This denotes a man who is secure within himself about the power that he wields. This lack of deference on the part of Mr Larijani might be a statement that Iran is denoting weakness in American power and is now asserting there own power. .

      With regards to the Iranian power structure the US tends to bark up a tree thinking that they have the fox cornered when in fact the fox is hiding up another tree all together. One might also add much to the Iranian delight. Therefore one has long thought that President Ahmadinejad is merely an administrator, so that the true leaders of Iran are not bothered with keeping the lights on nor the garbage picked up. Also that President Ahmadinejad's outrageous rhetoric is in reality meaningless deflection of attention much as a magician performs to accomplish his illusions.. It is only when the western hierarchical bureaucratic structure figures this out that a real discussion with Iran can begin.

      TABS

    12. machngunjoe  01/13/2012 01:27 PM Report

      Oh REMant, how I not really look forward to your conspiracy theories on just about every single one of Charlie Roses' shows. There is nothing "obvious" about any of this.

    13. REMant  01/13/2012 12:11 PM Report

      Obviously these assassinations have to be seen as a collaborative effort of Israel and the US, tho the latter may not have participated or sanctioned them directly, so I think I'd take Ms Clinton's protestations with a grain of salt. I think they are also likely to involve some members of the Iranian opposition. I doubt very much that it involves Iranian agent provocateurs. I don't think the govt there needs to do anything like that, because support for the nuclear program seems to be nearly universal. But I don't doubt that the US and Israel have spies there, and that we are involved in an undeclared with them.

      The only way to resolve this "crisis" may be to let the Iranians build their weapons. It might be just what is needed to contain Israel and resolve the Palestinian issue and maybe also the situation in Syria and Iraq. I doubt the Iranians are any crazier than the Pakistanis or the Indians. But with Israel you have a situation of absolute power corrupting absolutely, and it is costing this country a lot.

      BTW, I think it was not Saddam but Iraq, and the British had a lot to do with that. And of course Saddam considered Iran every bit as much an enemy as we did. Even now I am not sure what we are going to do if or when Iran and Iraq get closer together. It really is irrelevant whether Iraq is or isn't a Shiite theocracy. This country isn't a theocracy. It doesn't have to be. Neither will they. And I think I would downplay the Arab-Persian distinction. If the Iraqis all saw themselves as brothers, then they wouldn't have been shooting and bombing each other for the past several decades. It is just very poor analysis to suppose that history is governed by a few individuals. Tho it's all a good premise for someone like Le Carre.