Charlie Rose

chawlynose  12/28/2011 07:41 PM Report

Please, if there is Any barber(s) in the house, Please come forward this Instant. and give this young man a good seeing to.

beenthere2460  12/05/2011 07:21 PM Report

I think the most important goal of this so called moment in US history, is to realize that we need better government. We need to have the opportunity to get a third party as an option in order to have change. It has happened in other countries. Why can't we have it here?

We need to break the two party "binopoly". Everyone is tired of their nonsense and inability to represent the people. They don't deliver because of their alliances with the corporate world and their disregard for the common man.

blank  12/03/2011 04:07 AM Report

"The meditator strives to be aware of the stream of thoughts, allowing them to arise and pass away without interference."

my goal is to be completely free healthy in touch with and at ease with my self at all times 24/7

that's what i mean it's a little different than what's written here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen

also over time that will be adjusted and fixed as i figure it out i'm in the environmental peace movement at peace with myself and constantly striving to better myself completely and advance forward into a better state of being

my biggest place of improvement is to comfortably do what i know will help react to what's happening successfully in each moment and not get frustrated when i feel like i'm unable to achieve what i would like to do or work on which more often than not is actually primarily a fictional block that i've created within my mind

as a result of anticipated failures

because as you get healthier rehabilitate free yourself of the physical pain it's easier to be at ease with yourself and act and just be and do and further enhance yourself

and as we all become better people we will create a better world for all and i think we can share with each other what actually contributes to this in the big picture

it took me like 25 to 30 years to really get a general sense of how i need to live my life and what i can do to improve myself and not get caught in these caverns of forced railways into the abyss of self destruction and collapse

what people don't realize is that you lose the ability to self analyze yourself and know what state you're in as you self destruct because your mind collapses in on itself and you're unaware

self enhancement brings joy and happiness and love and everything that people dream of it's that aright there's no cheating way to get to it you have to take it seriously

it's not a competition and capitalism is creating the wrong mental mind state of what it means to be successful when you step back and look at the big picture the system is out of sync with reality all the way down to the most fundamental state of your own well being this

this is like a virus striving to survive within a human being and their success destroys the person and therefore themselves we all live here together we're all in the same system

you have to create systems that self enhance from within fundamentally not there comes a point when you recognize that you're failing and you have to adjust before it actually happens

this is what i think i can talk about other people or i can just try to do the best i can

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15930562 (Canada makes Kyoto climate strike)

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-215_162-20126423/occupy-wall-street-turns-into-occupy-earth/ (Occupy Wall Street turns into Occupy Earth)

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okay sorry this was from a couple of days ago (3) and then i got completely preoccupied with gears and bicycle components and how to fix my bike and researching and what direction to take for two days straight with no final conclusion yet i will try to get back on track for the meanwhile and back focused into time management and reality <- don't pay attention to ? _ doesn't exist IT EXISTS BUT IT DOESN'T ALSO I HAVE TO TURN IT ON AND OFF which is fine it goes on and off check this i have to change my whole life this is serious

SharkswithfrikingLazers  12/01/2011 09:49 PM Report

Occupy Wall Street began as a single-issue protest.

It started when Adbusters posted a message suggesting a protest whose central demand is that President Obama “ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington.” This is a broad-based demand that should (and did) unite people on all sides of the political spectrum, from ultra-Liberals to Tea Partiers. In fact, as many point out, the target of the rage should be Washington as much as Wall Street.

Look at the image: http://riprowan.com/

tabs  12/01/2011 05:27 AM Report

An excerpt from an e-mail to Mr Rose on 2/3/09:

"To predict the logical outcome of what is transpiring today is knowable in broad terms, as one can see trends developing as the logical outcome of today's events. However the ringer in the machine is the fact that each decision that has to be made in the future presents another crossroad which will produce a chain of events that is unique and unknowable at the present. That is not to say that an educated guess can not be made based upon the predilections of the times and of men

So what does the future look like going forward.

1. As stated before President Obama s riding the crest of a wave of change and is not orchastrating it. At such there is the beginnings of an Oliver Cromwell type of secular Round Head revolution which spells the end of conspicuous consumption and a get back to basics or austerity as dictated by the current financial times. This also has to do with the coming of a Green Economy and Global Warming concerns......." TABS

itmatterswhoownsthecapital  11/30/2011 10:03 PM Report

What differentiates the 1% from the rest of us is their ownership of over 90% of the productive capital in the USA. To create sustainable, long term growth, everyone needs to participate in the economy, not only through their labor, but through their privately owned capital. So, to borrow from the cry of the 1968 protesters, the cry of the Occupy Wall Street movement should be:

What do we want? Capital Ownership

When do we want it? As soon as possible

How do we do it? Use Kelso’s* financing tools for broadening the ownership of newly formed capital.

* Louis O. Kelso - author of Democracy and Economic Power: Extending the ESOP Revolution through Binary Economics, 1986 and many other books, articles, speeches.

anne4444  11/30/2011 06:38 PM Report

The question is how we can create a sustainable long term economic growth to put all people into workplaces. Everyone who wants work for his/her survivorship, shall be given a job. It is the foundation for freedom and prosperity.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/30/2011 04:14 PM Report

So we have the 1% and the 99% but the 99% is primarily represented by the 1%. Therefore it is the 1% against the 1% and the 98% just talking about it.

Jon Oliver's report shows this best:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-october-18-2011/the-99-?xrs=share_copy

The draft was a catalyst for the anti-war movement. There is a need for a catalyst here too.

Perhaps it will be all the returning soldiers looking for work? Perhaps it will be a move by Americans Elect? Perhaps more people will watch "Inside Job"?

SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/30/2011 04:04 PM Report

Charlie, your other guest Marc Benioff was actually more helpful and gave us the tip on Adbusters.

Here is what I found:

http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/occupywallstreet.html

"The time has come to deploy this emerging stratagem against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America.

We demand that Barack Obama ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington. It's time for DEMOCRACY NOT CORPORATOCRACY, we're doomed without it."

winter  11/30/2011 03:10 PM Report

Hell, Jesus "the hippie" himself was the first OWS advocate and he surely would never have rationalized his beliefs towards republican "values". Abortion was their foot in the door with Falwell and his herded , and they've been kept on a leash ever since.

REMant  11/30/2011 12:38 PM Report

I've never heard Heilemann, who strikes me as an old-fashioned 19th c socialist or what he, himself, calls "antiquated far-left fringe", and has a regular role among Chris Matthews' frequently obnoxious coterie, say anything about monetary and budgetary causes for income, or more properly, wealth, inequality. As far as I can say - and I lived through it while he was just two years old - the occupy mvmt has little to do with 1968, except perhaps that it has brought out the hippies again, who would like to believe they are among the oppressed. Events in 1968 built on the Vietnam draft and the free speech and voting rights movements earlier in the decade, perhaps a little of JFK's community action programs, which were strongly supported by college students. However, those protesting were decidedly in the minority during the entire period, even among labor unions. The public lost interest in Vietnam more than protested it, Kent State notwithstanding. 1968's inner-city riots I believe reflected the draft, as well as, military spending, which had begun to cut into the "war on poverty." They reflected injustice no doubt, but also dashed expectations. 1968 was also about the time when the inflation beginning with the Kennedy stimulus measures started to be felt, causing the "oil shock." Gitlin, who has a roseate view of all this, believes public opinion is behind those in the streets, but I think not, and it is once again the result of bad polling. Protests such as these remind me of nothing so much as self-absorbed hippie "happenings," with no purpose beyond the experience. There is, of course, self-congratulatory qulaity about them that also recalls old revolutionary newspapers and broadsheets as much as teach-ins, Chautauqua's and other evangelical sorts of gatherings adopted by labor parties. The problem is, as Mandeville noticed long ago, that you cannot build a society of equally respected individuals in this way. What happens rather is that you end up with a welfare state, and it was precisely the welfare state - the charitable impulse - which has caused the economic conundrum, not some greedy banksters. The story is much more convoluted.

Our "Keynesian" types refuse to believe that the downturn is due to something they were at fault for, that didn't work out or pay back, but rather that it is the fault of stinginess or greed, which requires even more largess to overcome. They do not see saving except as Puritanism of some sort. It is pure permissiveness honed to a fine edge by evangelical religion, which is far more than the mere opium of the masses Marx thought. It creates liberal society of the sort Mandeville and Smith criticized, based on false hope and deceptive practice, and inculcated by deprivation and conditioning to effect changes in manners - all these things summed up in the phenomenon of the "awakening." Such enthusiastic societies are inevitably affected by cycles of boom and bust, binge and purge, mania and depression. This is also justified by saying that, if for no other reason, others are risk averse, afraid of living, lacking in animal spirits, and so forth, really supporting a view of life as inherently competitive, thus requiring social action. The banks were bailed out precisely to support these notions. And the revulsion supports it still.

I thought it wise, in any case, for politicians to steer clear of these protests, tho I think the media will be no more cautious than they were in the spring, provided they can find a way to absolve the present admin of blame. I notice Charlie of late has been pressing his opinion on the need for strong leaders and so forth, but I would point out that fascism began in just this way, of which Churchill quipped the out-of-work were led by those who wouldn't work. Nixon and Reagan ran on this, but it was the Democrats' inflation that brought them down and the whole country became a whole lot cleaner than it ever was for Gene, and almost overnight. What happened after that is tho another story.

Heilemann's piece, which does contain some good reporting however, may be found here: http://nymag.com/news/politics/occupy-wall-street-2011-12/?imw=Y&f=most-viewed-24h5