Charlie Rose

beenthere2460  11/26/2011 02:42 PM Report

He is one of those actors you feel he has lived a thousand lives and remembers them all-he is one of a kind. Intense and very cerebral.

JohnHanley  11/23/2011 02:20 PM Report

I'm a big fan of John Malcovich. The last thing I saw him in was a film I rented from Netflix called Color Me Kubrick. It was good, really funny, but sad at the same time. But the thing about this interview I found interesting was the digression into speculation about the role of the brain in the actions of the character in John Malkovic's opera. I've been thinking a lot about it , and I made some observations that I'd like to see if I can put in order here. I think the implication in what Charlie Rose was saying is that the condition of a persons brain might be a mitigating factor in the crime of murder, while John Malkovich expressed a lack of understanding of how a person could be excused for murder under any circumstances, I think he used the word "redeemed". I think, in regarding the role of the brain, that the following analysis bears some relevance: perception is a prerequisite for cognition of any kind, and choice being the end of deliberation, a cognitive process, for a person to deliberate they must first be able to perceive. The brain is related to the sense organs and the object of perception in this activity, but since each component of the activity posesses a nature the origin of which is external to itself it seems as if the whole of the activity of perception is greater than the sum of it's parts, i.e. it is the nature of the brain to interpret signals from the sense organs, the nature of the sense organ to percive and the nature of the brain to interpret these signals, all as part of one reality. This nature then, appears to be separate from and to preceed the components. To say then that the brain controls cognition seems incorrect. Instead is seems to me to be more acurate to say I use my brain when I deliberate and make a choice. What I'm refering to is usually refered to as the mind.

Further, to identify the brain as the controling agent seems to involve an infinite regress of thought. I might be wrong about this, but when scientists idenitfy activity in the brain with a cognitive process, to say the brain is the origin seems to be like positing activity of activity. Where does that activity come from, more activity?

I don't know what any of this might mean with reference to the ethical treatment of the person in the example discussed in the interview, but it doesn't seem to me that a defect in the brain alone could make someone commit such overwhelming crimes. As to the issue of redemption, a person who had really been forgiven by God would undoubtedly not be concerned with whatever material circumstances they found themselves in. Jail should be good enough for a murderer.

JohnHanley  11/23/2011 02:20 PM Report

I'm a big fan of John Malcovich. The last thing I saw him in was a film I rented from Netflix called Color Me Kubrick. It was good, really funny, but sad at the same time. But the thing about this interview I found interesting was the digression into speculation about the role of the brain in the actions of the character in John Malkovic's opera. I've been thinking a lot about it , and I made some observations that I'd like to see if I can put in order here. I think the implication in what Charlie Rose was saying is that the condition of a persons brain might be a mitigating factor in the crime of murder, while John Malkovich expressed a lack of understanding of how a person could be excused for murder under any circumstances, I think he used the word "redeemed". I think, in regarding the role of the brain, that the following analysis bears some relevance: perception is a prerequisite for cognition of any kind, and choice being the end of deliberation, a cognitive process, for a person to deliberate they must first be able to perceive. The brain is related to the sense organs and the object of perception in this activity, but since each component of the activity posesses a nature the origin of which is external to itself it seems as if the whole of the activity of perception is greater than the sum of it's parts, i.e. it is the nature of the brain to interpret signals from the sense organs, the nature of the sense organ to percive and the nature of the brain to interpret these signals, all as part of one reality. This nature then, appears to be separate from and to preceed the components. To say then that the brain controls cognition seems incorrect. Instead is seems to me to be more acurate to say I use my brain when I deliberate and make a choice. What I'm refering to is usually refered to as the mind.

Further, to identify the brain as the controling agent seems to involve an infinite regress of thought. I might be wrong about this, but when scientists idenitfy activity in the brain with a cognitive process, to say the brain is the origin seems to be like positing activity of activity. Where does that activity come from, more activity?

I don't know what any of this might mean with reference to the ethical treatment of the person in the example discussed in the interview, but it doesn't seem to me that a defect in the brain alone could make someone commit such overwhelming crimes. As to the issue of redemption, a person who had really been forgiven by God would undoubtedly not be concerned with whatever material circumstances they found themselves in. Jail should be good enough for a murderer.

sugar  11/20/2011 08:15 PM Report

Fascinating program, more of a chat between friends than an interview. Charlie uncharacteristically making a point of telling John how much he and John have in common, and yet John did not give the characteristic CR guest impression of being honored to be invited! Helpful to learn of John's family background that was enlightening to explain his diverse interests (journalist parents encouraged him to be curious, to question, to learn, yet to be comfortable in his own skin). I would love to hear one aspect of their discussion further examined: corporal punishment of children throughout the world in the past as well as now. John says he knows of no cultures where it was not practiced: I question that but cannot refute it. Can you find an expert on the subject to interview in the future? I grew up in DE the youngest of a family of 9 and was reared with many nieces close to my age and physical punishment was never used in my family; nor did I use it as a parent of 2 sons.

adamlarson14  11/18/2011 04:50 PM Report

What an interesting man Malkovich is. I could listen to him all day.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/18/2011 03:51 PM Report

John's line: http://www.technobohemian.it/#collection

It looks more like costumes than clothes.

What would happen if we put John with Joan Rivers on "Fashion Police"? (My head just exploded.)

Gustav  11/18/2011 10:06 AM Report

For several weeks i haven't been able to wath any clips of this show.

It's nothing wrong on my end and I have 100mbit/sec...

Frustrated as hell, and the webmaster doesn't seem to give a sh*t. doesnt answer any email either...

SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/18/2011 02:29 AM Report

John says his father, given a choice, would vote for Mickey Mouse over Jesus Christ.

Would his father also put Mickey Mouse's head on Jesus Christ's body? (An artist did and had his worked banned from an exhibition http://www.christianpost.com/news/mickey-mouse-on-christs-body-panting-banned-in-russia-54244/ )

Both instances speak to trying to induce an effect on those who have minds that are easily provoked. Be it crazy elections or crazy cartoons, being able to get a mind to react the way you want it to can make you a successful serial killer or a successful politician.

We need to help those brains that are so easily manipulated.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/18/2011 02:16 AM Report

How much of this murdering can be found in brain science you ask?

We might turn to Dr. Drew:

"I want everyone reading this to understand something about young people who are physically abused. It shatters the brain's upper limit of its ability to regulate and actually changes the way the brain grows such that, we are talking about damaging an organ – and that's how this should be prosecuted in my opinion. Interconnections amongst the emotional systems don't develop normally. People who have been severely violated by somebody they love, rupture trust.

Furthermore, those who are affected by something like this have a difficult time functioning in relationships and at work, to give just a few examples. Plus, they have higher incidences of addiction and alcoholism. All of my patients with addiction have one thing in common: abuse. That's what triggers their addictive pathology. I know what happens to kids' brains. I have to deal with it later."

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2011/11/03/dr-drew-over-videotaped-beating

winter  11/17/2011 12:15 PM Report

I like Malkovich but he's scary, like he's holding back

reading you the riot act and tearing you a new one any second. Maybe its his characters. Noone is more convincing playing the guy who orders his torpedoes to take you out back and ...!

He'd make the best Bond villain ever ...or Batman villain.