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AmySSchwartzberg  04/18/2012 08:14 PM Report

Ever since I watched this episode I wanted to go. My husband and I went today and we walked from 14th street up to 26th, it was wonderful! What a great experience and all it cost us was the price of the LIRR and subway! We even ate dinner at Pastis and that was the perfect ending to our day which included a visit to Chelsea Market!

Max83  03/17/2012 10:55 PM Report

This is a real life fairy tale to me!

Friedensreich Hundertwasser would be thrilled!

The last time I was in NYC was in December/January 2000/2001.

I will surely visit the High Line the next time I visit the city.

Thank you very much for the inspiration.

Saultxyca  12/08/2011 11:15 AM Report

Magical development, enlightened, inspiring guests with extraordinary rapport.

When thoughtful people collide, miracles can blossom. Gem of a show.

Annabelle  12/01/2011 08:48 PM Report

Lovely.

blank  11/28/2011 10:45 PM Report

this was really popular when i was a kid

http://www.railstotrails.org/index.html

here are some pictures

http://www.railstotrails.org/ourWork/promotingTrailUse/trailRecognition/hallofFame/index.html

trail building toolbox

http://www.railstotrails.org/ourwork/trailbuilding/toolbox/index.html

tunnels

http://www.railstotrails.org/ourWork/trailBuilding/toolbox/informationSummaries/tunnels.html

dame espacio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j1WdXAIJSI&feature=related

natashaarora  11/26/2011 10:45 AM Report

Charlie and Yvette, thank you for putting together this panel. I LOVE THE HIGH LINE. It makes people HAPPY. On multiple trips to NYC since October 2009, it has made me HAPPY. And isn't that just a wonderful emotion to feel in this age of constant turbulence? I admire those "dreamers" particularly co-founder, Robert Hammond, whom I had the pleasure of meeting last July 2011 at a Friends of the High Line cocktail for artist Sarah Sze. What a magical evening! The craziness of the world is indeed 'outside' but in this extraordinary, thoughtfully designed park, you can escape the nonsense, breathe peacefully, think clearer, and create for yourself a memory, with or without the use of a camera! Friends of the HL, your PASSION PROJECT is contagious!

-Natasha ARORA, facebook.com/ecodecoARORA

Gelles  11/22/2011 09:11 AM Report

Via Wikipedia you can find NYC Planning Commission:

Greetings from the Chair, Amanda M. Burden

It is a privilege to serve the City of New York as Chair of the City Planning Commission and Director of the Department of City Planning. I welcome the opportunity to plan and develop places in which people will love to live and work -- the vibrant places that will attract and hold creative talent.

New York City is the great cosmopolitan center of capital and culture, and we have taken important steps to maintain its economic competitiveness in the region, in the nation and in the world. At the same time, we are working to create a more inclusive city, with economic opportunities for everyone, more affordable housing, a healthy environment to sustain us, and an improved quality of life in revitalized neighborhoods throughout the five boroughs. Together with our sister agencies, we have made significant accomplishments toward those goals under the leadership of Mayor Michael Bloomberg. We have helped foster what many have said is the greatest period for economic development in decades.

This is an exceptional moment for city planners. Our geographic focus is citywide, and we are also actively working toward a dynamic future for areas including Lower Manhattan, Long Island City, Jamaica, West Chelsea, the Hudson Yards, Upper Manhattan, Downtown Brooklyn, Greenpoint-Williamsburg, the South Bronx and St. George on Staten Island. And we are doing all of this with a commitment to community engagement that helps ensure the success of the many initiatives completed to date and on the horizon.

Each of these also shares the principles of sustainability that the Mayor has charged us with incorporating into everything the City undertakes. We are channeling growth to transit-rich neighborhoods and preserving the unique character of more auto-dependent lower-density communities. I firmly believe in the principles articulated by Holly Whyte that the street is the barometer of the health of city life, and that every new development must connect with the street to ensure its vitality. We are incorporating significant new public spaces in our redevelopment plans. And we are focusing attention on the quality of the smaller public spaces that people enjoy for respite and recreation. We also have successfully sent the message that good design and economic development are closely intertwined; and New York now hosts noted architects designing innovative and exciting new buildings.

Our goal is to both get things built that people will point to with pride and appreciation, and to address the challenges faced by New Yorkers and neighborhoods throughout the City. I welcome your ongoing participation in this exciting process.

Send a message to the Chair

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My message to the Chair:

Please, Amanda, come to Ventura California to speak to our planners. They have ruined downtown parking and done little else that I have noticed.

If you like Doc Martin (from UK) on PBS you will like Ventura. We have a beach and a harbor and a far larger population than where Martin resides. And all of us who can read watch Charlie Rose.

Gelles  11/22/2011 08:50 AM Report

I say this proves W. is pretty good. Especially on Amanda. It also proves I don't want Brooks for my guru or Romney for my CEO. Offer his Ambassador to China. He can explain to them all about money and full employment -- from Keynes I hope.

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Extract from Wikipedia on Romney:

Former Bain and Olympics colleague Fraser Bullock has said of Romney, "He's not an ideologue. He makes decisions based on researching data more deeply than anyone I know."

Romney's technocratic instincts have thus always been with him; in his public appearances during the 2002 gubernatorial campaign he sometimes gave PowerPoint presentations rather than conventional speeches. Upon taking office he became, in the words of The Boston Globe, "the state's first self-styled CEO governor".

During his 2008 presidential campaign he was constantly asking for data, analysis, and opposing arguments, and has been viewed as a potential "CEO president" should he get that far.

Gelles  11/22/2011 08:36 AM Report

It's already Tuesday. And my day will not be made until Amanda Burden gets a comment page of her own. Until then, there is Wikipedia. Her entry is the very best that website has to offer.

Perhaps I will allow their coverage of "functional finance" is vastly improved from what it was when I gave up on Wikipedia as food for any brain. Today it has come of age. They won't take ads, and instead beg for money like a beggar.

If W. is so smart, how come they cannot take ads that would not abuse the reader? Are they just too stupid? I gave them $5 the other day. I think I'll check on "Mitt Romney". That entry ought to confirm David Brooks' interview -- or not!

sharon13  11/21/2011 02:06 PM Report

This made my Monday! The power of visualization. We ALL can achieve greatness. This is an inspiration to me and a metaphor for the positive that can be done in the world. There is beauty everywhere. I add you to my list of heros.... xo :)

finalfantasytown  11/21/2011 06:20 AM Report

Some pictures conduct me to some bad memories. I am a mammoth with leo face, female. One day, in my kingdom, I walked by a concrete hill, I felt a pair of eyes, strange eyes, hiding in a dark cave on my left side, spying on me. I sneaked close in front of the cave, and tried to find something by sniffing and listening. But nothing. It made me very angry. I shout to the dark cave'THIS IS MY LAND'. Immediately a strong and cold wind like a fist hit my face. Then I here my echo. That is, definitely, a ghost. I scared enough and run away. At this moment, a goat on the hill kicked off two giant rocks crumbling down and blocking my way. My mind became dismantled. I hate that goat. Do you know how much pain I got when I squeezed through the crevice of the two rocks. I know you, I locked you, the face with beard. Someday, I kill you, someday. I don't eat you. I hang you in front of all animals in my kingdom.

Another one is my husband, having the opposite opinion on the kingdom to me. I like diversity because all the creatures are beautiful. They come here, talk to each other, share their experiences and ideas. Besides, we have enough food, 'the wonderful food, the magic food, the glorious food'. At beginning, I cook for him with diversity of nutrients. But my husband only care about his species, the pure blood. I don't think he loves me. Maybe because of my face. But in the dark, it doesn't matter I think. It hurts me. I will revenge. I will let him addicted to me. I still cook for him, delicious, spicy, but unbalanced nutrient, everyday, round and round.

Gelles  11/21/2011 04:51 AM Report

"Amanda Burden is the director of the New York City Department of City Planning and chair of the City Planning Commission." -- that's what it says below her picture -- on the previous page. But comments are not open yet on that page. The closest you can get to her picture NOW is here.

So why not wait a day? What is the hurry to write to Amanda? Nobody else is up. Why not stay asleep?

There is no good answer. Is the High Line open nights? Makes no difference, I'm 3000 miles from it. Anyway, the High Line is no more real than TV and this site. All is virtual escape from where you really are to where you wish you were.

I wish I were at TV Central, where Steve Jobs hoped to create new TV with interactive features that put the audience in charge. It would be connected to the cloud editable comments could be stored. Comments would be spoken, commenters would be off camera, and comment could be read or

heard as real talk. They would be there for every player, but moderated too. You at home would be privy only to comments you wanted to receive. I would never receive REMant's.

Amanda would be followed, Facebook-style, by millions.

Charlie would have lots of audience and followers. After all, who do you hear that's better? The Sunday shows today were particularly dreary. Newt Who? Gingrich the thief with white hair. He ought to be ashamed. All he ever wanted was loot. All he ever offered was conventional class war with outcomes in favor of the most selfish in the game.

The issues are (1) occupation of the national mind by ideas that Lincoln made possible in even more terrible times, and (2) defense of liberty by the forces that embrace human rights against those who don't know what they are.

I guess there is also the always appropriate question of bonds and debt that Bloomberg Terminals track. This source of public wealth is presently pumping far short of the global mark. It remains geared to past accounting when future need and high-tech spurred production remains outside the scope of interest. Not even Jerry Brown, technically higher than the mayor of NYC, is heard to demand that his valley of invention be invited to solve need, supply and demand.

The Department of City Planning is told by fools how much money there is. If FDR had paid attention to that kind of noise we'de all be worse than we are by orders of magnitude that know no bounds.

When I was young we used to sing -- oh who owns New York, why we own New York, C o l u m b i a.

..... did we err? Should we have shortened it to C h i n a?

finalfantasytown  11/21/2011 03:01 AM Report

Just 1.5 miles, not a thousand miles, I can experience the history of NYC, and dream the future. Thanks all guys contributing to this work (especially in 2009). Fortunately, it doesn't become machine city. Lots of nonsense work. First, build up zyon, then Neo comes out, then... you know that.

Gelles  11/20/2011 05:05 PM Report

Ordinary practice in town and city planning is to allow near absolute rules of property ownership and an immediate profit motive -- to permit the destruction of the old and construction of the new.

Here we see the value of court procedures to protect our past. God bless all these sensitive people who had the vision, taste and will to preserve and now re-develop a High Line that will be cherished for centuries.

If I remember what I think I read, Amanda Burden has a plan to develop a sixth borough of NYC using its waterfront and harbor as a place of enormous beauty for people to enjoy in a million old and new ways. Imagine what that idea may bring. Clipper ships, museums, every water sport, commuting that is a joy, eventually water you swim in and drink if you are thirsty.

One of my favorite images is of Luigi Nervi's thin ferro cement boats and ships. We could someday have thousands of affordable craft, made of ferro cement or, possibly, carbon fiber, that would perform as houseboats, rescue craft, ocean-crossing submersibles, etc. To be born in NYC when these are there would be an adventure reminiscent of Henry Hudson's first visit to the water that bears his name.

It seems I was born too soon by a century or two. Fortunately I believe in re-incarnation -- as fish after human and human after fish. I won't have to wait but a but a moment, so to speak, to live in tht Sixth Borough to be named Amanda Beach.

BENEZRAA  11/20/2011 03:25 PM Report

NYC HIGHLINE EXCELLENT MODEL FOR URBAN FUTURE

Kudos to all involved in this project!

It is so much more sensible to build urban pedestrian pathways in the air than to build in the air to support the weight and traffic of the vast majority of trains and motorized vehicles ranging from the subway to the ordinary passenger vehicle and multiple freight trucks that now dominate. So many cities exist sliced into jagged chunks due to rails and roads set upon huge "stilts". Engineering marvels these may be, and necessary in some locations; but, such a model is overdeveloped such that urban life suffers from the noise, pollution, traffic, and costs that may be somewhat mitigated by elevated pedestrian urban design.

Such urban planning for pedestrian pathway design would be a boon to hilly urban terrains, to join tall buildings or even skyscrapers, and to bypass highways from above. Greenery is a nice plus, especially in such an urban jungle as NYC; there are many smaller cities where such ornamentation may be a nice optional feature, but, where the key element would be the freedom of pedestrian movement and also freedom of movement for lightweight vehicles such as bicycles, small electric vehicles, lightweight-small-scale rail systems, and moving sidewalks.

The NYC HIGHLINE exists as an adaptation of an abandoned elevated rail system, the great benefit of which [at the construction level] is that the pre-existing infrastructure in the form of steel columns, girders, and platforms. The now existing tangible example and proof of value of an elevated pedestrian pathway in urban context should pave the way [no pun intended] for urban planners, architectural firms, and university architecture programs to pioneer diverse designs of elevated urban platforms.

Such platforms need not be massive eyesores (as many may regard the infrastructure of the elevated rail system to be). Surely the view and experience from above [which is of course the mission of the Highline] is far superior to the view and experience from below. The latter may be ameliorated with time, as the community below develops and as the artistic instincts have time to transform the appearance of the overhanging steel jungle into something beautiful (and I say this with all due and great respect for the engineering beauty of the existing steel structures).

It is easy and exciting to imagine an urban future of moving sidewalks, bicycle paths, hiking paths, music and theatre gazebos, etc., all built upon and supported by suspension bridges between hilltops, skyscrapers, and occasional columns. In geographies subject to inclement weather such as rain, snow, and wind, these structures could be covered partially or completely with plexiglass to enable 100% utilization all year round. Well lit and decoratively lit, these structures could be utilized at night safely and present a light show for all the city to see. Elevated restaurants? Without a doubt!

I could think of nothing more exciting than to be personally involved in the development of such projects! At a time our nation needs to preserve every bit of nature it can, what better way than this to reclaim the appeal of urban living and reduce the carbon footprint of urban life? Instead of eating up farmland, marshland, and forest-land via continued "sprawlurbia" [to coin a word], we may motivate urban redevelopment, incentivised by tax policies that remove such vital natural resources as farmland, marshland, and forest-land from residential and commercial tax classifications.

Thank you for the real world model of the NYS HIGHLINE; may it's existence prove to be pivotal in the history and future of urban life!

Gelles  11/20/2011 07:35 AM Report

The argument for shared money supply responsibility between for-profit private business and on purpose government spending, to allow demand to raise supply and supply to support demand, is nicely made by Professor Ron Morrison in the UK. Read it via Google or at http://www.outputbasedmoney.info/kwod.htm

And remember http://www.outputbasedmoney.info/.crs.htm

Gelles  11/20/2011 07:17 AM Report

Spent one hour trying to get back here. Password and ID and email were SNAFU.

This High Line interview has served to talk of Mohammad- Javad Larijani as well as CR and AB.

Soon the Amanda Burden page may be open to comment -- and I may continue there.

In comment tonight at 12:25 am, 3 hours ago, subject was table talk among CR and celebs.

If we grant that the High Line opens up the possibility of a better NYC and all the rest of planet Earth, we cannot escape the Mayor versus the 99.9% of people with fewer assets than his honor.

What about that?

Can we be proud of America if it does not immediately find the money and the jobs for our people to go to work who have recently fared so poorly in the rat race?

No we can't.

Can anything be done? Government is corrupt. Business is slow, corrupt and stuck in low gear. Labor is low on power. Rose is stymied. Bloomberg is embarrassed. The Occupy parks not your mind team is lame. The Tea Party is dangerous. Our glass could be half-empty and about to fall and smash.

Needless to say, a leader who explained full employment budgeting would solve the jobs problem over night.

The current President has wisely seen we are a force for peace in the South Pacific from Australia and the Philippines to the Indian Ocean and beyond. The same for the whole Pacific Ocean from Shanghai to LA and the Arctic to Antarctica.

But that same President does not see that full employment budgets pay for themselves with economic output -- when gold, as such, is used for filling teeth and exotic electronic boards -- and we are not ashamed to be the arsenal of democracy and the lender of last resort.

What do you lend, when you owe everyone in town? You lend your skills and knowledge of how to produce what everyone must have to eat and grow strong in a world at peace with itself. If you can produce it, you can price it to make sense -- and count the things that money buys as what counts. Money, itself, is priced in THINGS !

Our academic economists ought to be fired one by one if they chose the invisible hand over the National Economic Security and Logistics Advisory branch at the right arm of the Commander in Chief. Business has hollowed out our industries because our President's did not look to the future effect of low consumer prices in an economy whose job is production motivated by money -- not by sweat shop wages that are too low to buy what business sells.

Taxes are the cancer in the system. Too many people think government needs taxes when in fact it has the duty to match money for demand to output as supply. Money matching has traditionally been by both fractional reserve banking and sovereign money spending. That is how we out-produced socialism and defeated totalitarian tyrannies. In recent decades, with no rival on the left, we have allowed the right to scuttle our ship. Charlie Rose stands accused of not doing his homework. And time is running out.

JohnGelles  11/20/2011 12:25 AM Report

Fact from Wikipedia:

Amanda Burden has had a continuing relationship with television personality Charlie Rose since the early 1990s.

The High Line interview / celebration featured both Diane Von Furstenberg and Amanda Burden as extremely beautiful women with an eye for beauty created by people in the arts, sciences and commerce, as well as by nature and all her magic.

The comments and video for Amanda is not yet ready -- so this page will have to do if I want to say how much I enjoyed looking at Amanda and hearing her enthusiasm for the future of the High Line. I went to Wikipedia, where the entry on Amanda is laudatory and it includes the mention of CR copied above.

Congratulations Charlie Rose. Her current boss, his honor, would make a good president - and her close friend Charlie Rose would make a good guest for dinner at the WH.

You could even spend time with Mohammad-Javad Larijani, his honor the Mayor of NYC, and our current President and his Secretary of State and spouse.

You could focus on architectural support for world peace that Moshe Safdie might contribute, as all of you talked of serious matters in which all of us are interested.

There are important beautiful wealthy elites who want the best for the world around them that is vital to the happiness of ordinary people too. And, too often these grand elites are unable to bring the change most of us want for our nation and our planet.

I was a devoted reader of John Kenneth Galbraith who was as tall as Charlie Rose (maybe taller) and as good a writer as America produced in my lifetime. He wanted reform of political economy as well as natural beauty. He lived into his nineties and at the end I believe he said "Enough".

"Enough" is my favorite word, as in "Money enough to go around." CR's favorite word, in my opinion, is "important" -- as in "it's important", applied to everything that IS.

When I was young, we had Tex, and Jinx Falconberg on the radio talking of news and low brow matters of topical interest.

Wouldn't it be nice if Charlie, and Amanda Burden were a team on TV. She would add immeasurable class to out nightly lessons. Charlie, if you will do me the favor of modifying the CRS to make it that team, I'll never gain say a word about this show that does not reek from admiration. I'll even leave you a bundle in my will.

JohnGelles  11/20/2011 12:25 AM Report

Fact from Wikipedia:

Amanda Burden has had a continuing relationship with television personality Charlie Rose since the early 1990s.

The High Line interview / celebration featured both Diane Von Furstenberg and Amanda Burden as extremely beautiful women with an eye for beauty created by people in the arts, sciences and commerce, as well as by nature and all her magic.

The comments and video for Amanda is not yet ready -- so this page will have to do if I want to say how much I enjoyed looking at Amanda and hearing her enthusiasm for the future of the High Line. I went to Wikipedia, where the entry on Amanda is laudatory and it includes the mention of CR copied above.

Congratulations Charlie Rose. Her current boss, his honor, would make a good president - and her close friend Charlie Rose would make a good guest for dinner at the WH.

You could even spend time with Mohammad-Javad Larijani, his honor the Mayor of NYC, and our current President and his Secretary of State and spouse.

You could focus on architectural support for world peace that Moshe Safdie might contribute, as all of you talked of serious matters in which all of us are interested.

There are important beautiful wealthy elites who want the best for the world around them that is vital to the happiness of ordinary people too. And, too often these grand elites are unable to bring the change most of us want for our nation and our planet.

I was a devoted reader of John Kenneth Galbraith who was as tall as Charlie Rose (maybe taller) and as good a writer as America produced in my lifetime. He wanted reform of political economy as well as natural beauty. He lived into his nineties and at the end I believe he said "Enough".

"Enough" is my favorite word, as in "Money enough to go around." CR's favorite word, in my opinion, is "important" -- as in "it's important", applied to everything that IS.

When I was young, we had Tex, and Jinx Falconberg on the radio talking of news and low brow matters of topical interest.

Wouldn't it be nice if Charlie, and Amanda Burden were a team on TV. She would add immeasurable class to out nightly lessons. Charlie, if you will do me the favor of modifying the CRS to make it that team, I'll never gain say a word about this show that does not reek from admiration. I'll even leave you a bundle in my will.

kellyrivard  11/19/2011 01:34 PM Report

Loved the discussion of the High Line. It is inspiring to see how these determined people converted this space to a beautiful park. The show brightened my day. (Here in Vancouver, plans are afoot to tear down elevated sections of roadway & convert it not to park, but to high rise condominiums.)

Kelly Rivard, Vancouver, B.C.

zparis  11/19/2011 09:55 AM Report

Had the high line project been inspired by the Parisian promenade plantée, the 2.9 miles green belt that follows the old Vincennes railway line inaugurated in 1993?

p.s. The Promenade Plantée appears in the film Before Sunset, directed by Richard Linklater in 2004.

JohnGelles  11/19/2011 08:15 AM Report

Although the NYC High Line, and recovery of global economic growth and return to the war on poverty, are important and exciting, this matter of Iran and how to prevent Hitler, Stalin and other midgets working with the giant Satan, from winning in a final piece of bad luck for the rest of us, which is CR's assigned task in the interview, elevates tonight's text far above most others. Even brain science is small potatoes compared with the fraud Larijani must attempt to keep his family from being murdered in their bed or a torture room run by his peers.

You may not care fro my solution -- but I like it.

We do not bomb Iran. We kill their top politicians using the same tactics that killed Osama bin Laden. If that does not bring democracy to Iran, we kill their best nuclear scientists the same way.

You may reject this approach as too bloody or too difficult. But it seems to me, the collateral killing of innocent Iranians should be avoided if at all possible. And taking less action than killing the next Satanic team would be wrong. The world's armed forces killed Hitler and Mussolini. Stalin and Mao are different cases. They were not as close to evil as were those we killed. I liked Larijani. I even trust him. I would like to save his life by killing all who hold him hostage.

As for Diane Von Furstenberg and all the others who love the High Line, they were truly wonderful to listen to and thank from the bottom of our heart.

JohnGelles  11/19/2011 07:54 AM Report

[ Larijani segment 2 ]

Larijani struck me as a chess master. His every word was exact in the game we play between Russia, Iran, China, America, Europe, and the future of the human race.

Sitting with Larijani and our host, Charlie Rose, unseen by many, but almost in my room after 3am, were Albert Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer, Edward Teller, Andrei Sakharov, Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Winston Churchill, and Jesus Christ.

The discussion was all about non-proliferation of nuclear weapons among nations not yet in possession of same.

Hitler and Stalin were not in the room -- but their deeds haunted it.

Charlie Rose spoke for Jesus and mankind. He wanted Iran to give up all effort to develop nuclear science within its borders to avoid a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. The chess master Larijani would have none of that. Pakistan had the bomb. Russia had more bombs than we can even imagine, Israel had some bombs, Larijani, the most intelligent man in all Iran was not in a suicidal frame of mind.

[ To be continued immediately -- but in segments.]

JohnGelles  11/19/2011 07:36 AM Report

Diane Von Furstenberg is a charming guest whose voice and conversation I was delighted to hear the other night. Her work with all the others who have given NYC a precious gift of park and development (in billions of dollars of investment by the non-profit and for-profit sectors of our economy, in museums and multi-use new buildings as described in the show and interview,) deserves nothing but praise from all of us at home -- wherever we may live.

I am borrowing her page, I hope with her blessings, because tonight the CR interview with Larijani hit me like a ton of bricks -- but that interview won't be posted for a few days.

Ton of bricks meaning IMPORTANCE not anything negative.

Mohammad-Javad Larijani, is an Iranian politician, cleric and academic. Larijani is the head of the human rights council in the judiciary and a top adviser to the supreme leader. Additionally Larijani has been the Director of Institute for Studies in Theoretical Physics and Mathematics in Tehran. <<--- All this from Wikipedia (which I can access as I write in comments to the CR Show.)

[To be continued immediately -- but in segments -- to prevent losing all from finger failure on these keys.]

beenthere2460  11/18/2011 09:07 PM Report

That project is a unique opportunity to show how nature can take over an urban residual and make it better. It combines history, a new, adaptable use and sheer innovation with the insight of planners and designers. If Robert Moses would have been alive, he probably would have demolished the whole thing, no question about it. Times have changed.

It takes much hindsight and foresight, and fortunately there are people who are willing to make it happen today. Sensitivity shows that miracles can happen, even in the middle of the dense, built environment of a 1.5 mile elevated railroad line.

NoMore  11/18/2011 08:13 PM Report

REMant, do you have a life?

NoMore  11/18/2011 08:12 PM Report

REMant, do you have a life?

SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/18/2011 04:08 PM Report

Yes to an urban oasis.

And if you watch "The End Of Suburbia" then it may be a necessity.

http://www.endofsuburbia.com/

REMant  11/18/2011 03:04 PM Report

I recall driving on the cobbles under that thing with trains running overhead, or if not, one just like it, praying it didn't collapse. It's like tearing up train tracks elsewhere to make bike paths and power line corridors and I don't think planting stuff on it says all that much. Spending the extra money to take it down might have, but then that would deprive visiting gogglers of that human zoo their vantage point and send residents back to their rooftops. I suspect tho eliminating rail access to downtown may yet prove premature.