Robert A. Lutz & Elon Musk

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Robert A. Lutz, former Vice Chairman at General Motors Company & Elon Musk, CEO and Product Architect of Tesla Motors

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    1. ajain31  03/17/2013 03:13 PM Report

      The Voting Rights Act (VRA) must be upheld by the supreme court:

      The numerous despicable attempts to restrict voting made during the last election cycle are proof of that. Anyone who truly believes the VRA is obsolete needs to recognize, given last year's voter suppression efforts, the Jim Crowe era is biding its time.

      Now even if you are dumb enough to believe that all is OK with the world and there are no reasons to have the voting rights act on the books. Then why are the the parties at opposite end's on this? Why are the Republicans in America trying to keep people from the poles ?

      The argument is that VRA is discriminatory against Southern states to require them but not other states to seek pre-clearance for voting laws; I actually agree. The Voting Rights Act should require *ALL* states to seek pre-clearance. After what we've seen the GOP try to pass in states all across the nation prior to the last 2012 election, I see no reason this safeguard against voter suppression should be limited to just Southern states as suggested by VRA of 1965 but now should be expanded to apply to ALL 50 states.

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    2. ajain31  03/17/2013 03:06 PM Report

      Michelle Rhee - The famous controvertial former Washington DC School District Chancellor

      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=215125001967375&set=vb.145530532162873&type=2&theater

      Michelle Rhee on OPRAH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPsqO17f6Lw

      Michelle Rhee on abc's ThisWeek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nep1mcaFthU

      Michelle Rhee on The DailyShow with Jon Stewart

      http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-february-4-2013/michelle-rheehttp://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/ mon-february-4-2013/exclusive---michelle-rhee-extended-interview-pt--2http://www.thedailyshow.com/wat ch/mon-february-4-2013/exclusive---michelle-rhee-extended-interview-pt--3

      pbs.org FRONTLINE: The Education of Michelle Rheehttp://video.pbs.org/video/2323979463/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/education-of-michelle-rhee/

      Time Magazine: Rhee Tackles Classroom Challengehttp://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1862444-2,00.html

      Michelle Rhee Discusses "Waiting for Superman," Charter Schools And Sch... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLih24QdwH8

      Why Teach For America works - Michelle Rhee

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUs_hsHaqSA

      A Two-Tier Proposal for Teacher Pay - Michelle Rhee

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pii96AoTPw

      Stanford University: A Conversation on "Waiting for Superman" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzrjo7Fvs1A

      "Radical" Fighting to Put Students First should be a must read for all studentsfirst.org members! Michelle Rhee's new book, "RADICAL: Fighting to Put Students First," is now in stores! For more information about where you can find it, to read an excerpt from the book, and to share your story about education in America visit the official site at http://www.edradical.com/ or http://www.facebook.com/edradical.

      http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/michelle-rhee/510ff3b02b8c2a138f000747

      Michelle Rhee at the ACE 2011 Spring Luncheon https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=mO9F-amHDuw

      Michelle Rhee and Kevin Johnson (4/20/11) https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=OCcNzh7C_Tk&feature=endscreen

      Michelle A. Rhee 03.17.11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD0g8Jb9l78

      Cornell Alumni: Olin Lecture 2012: Michelle Rhee '92https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwFD-wkAEi8

      Harvard Public Health: Michelle Rhee, Former Chancellor of Washington D.C. Public Schools https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH0twXcxNUY

      http://fora.tv/2013/02/07/Michelle_Rhee_Fighting_to_Put_Students_First

      Geoffrey Canada - Conversations at KCTS 9https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxP6Ov5PSG8 Geoffrey Canada interviewed by Julian Bond: Explorations in Black Leadership ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f5MZKf6Uu4

      "Waiting for Superman" the documentary and Bloomberg documentary "Risk Takers" Michelle Rhee should a required screening for all studentsfirst.org members. I saw them on Netflix and became an instant member of studentsfirst.org and Michelle Rhee follower.

      "Won't Back down" the movie is another example to screen to all studentsfirst.org members.

      Share the reasons you fight for education reform. Your story will inspire others to get involved. So tell us: Why are you working to put students first? http://www.studentsfirst.org/facebook-story

      Check out today's blog by StudentsFirst staffer Charity Hallman, "One size fits all, or so they said," on The Fordham Institute's "Education Gadfly Daily: FLYPAPER" blog.

      To view the Fordham study, "When Teachers Choose Pension Plans: The Florida Story," visit http://www.studentsfirst.org/fordham-study-on-fl-teacher-pension-reform

      Watch MAKER videos on StudentFirst Founder Michelle Rhee visit www.makers.com/michelle-rhee

    3. ajain31  03/17/2013 02:27 PM Report

      Elon Musk is a great statesman. He has realized his dreams in exploiting the Internet through his Billion dollar company PayPal, in promoting sustainable energy production like through his company SOLAR CITY, his promotion of sustainable energy consumption like through his all electric car company TESLA and his vision to promote space travel through his company SPACEX and is making progress successfully by leaps and bounds.

      P.S.: Elon Musk may not be good at advertising his achievements with a great presence in social media so I would suggest Elon Musk create Facebook page for TESLA. As http://www.facebook.com/TESLA is taken I suggest Elon buy http://www.facebook.com/CarTESLA.

      Elon Musk made his first fortune selling PayPal to eBay in 2002. Now NASA is using his SpaceX to resupply the International Space Station while shares of his Tesla electric car company gained 10% last year. Next up: SolarCity, run by Musk's cousin Lyndon Rive, wants to put solar panels on your home.

      Elon Musk at the Daily Show with Jon Stewart

      http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-april-10-2012/elon-musk

      http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-april-10-2012/exclusive---elon-musk-extended-interview-pt--2

      Time Magazine: 10 Questions - Elon Musk

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwT3Y0lkYaQ

      Elon Musk - Presentations

      The future of Energy & Transport

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pKHyZxSCseE#!

      An Evening with Elon Musk and Alison van Diggelen

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHHwXUm3iIg

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrVD3tcVWTY

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNCdh05ck8

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uegOUmgKB4E

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g92rP1Mi_oQ

      National Geographic: Megafactories TESLA Model S (English)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=VUgDcA1pZAM&feature=endscreen

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOdsTuaJEfc&list=PL2CC76D636F09E03D

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFX5R8udRO4&list=PL2CC76D636F09E03D

      Pricing is important. Suggestion: Why don't all TESLA Model S documentaries (YouTube Videos) say UPFRONT that this car is about? $90,900 direct from Tesla. The most economic model (Model S 40kWh) can be had for just over $50k. Chevy VOLT publicizes its price a lot why not TESLA Model S too? The more people know that TESLA Model S 40kWh with 160 mile range, can be had for just over $50k the more popular will TESLA electric car be! TESLA Model S 40kWh mileage range beats VOLT, LEAF & others ..!

      TESLA Model X Official Release 2012

      Reservations for TESLA Model X is open at TeslaMotors.com for 2014 delivery.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0I7dByeTt4

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DevNb18bkuc

      PopularMechanics.com: Elon Musk interview 2012

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_af0ow1__E

      Elon Musk Profiled: Bloomberg Risk Takers: Video - Bloomberg

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTJt547--AM

      "Bloomberg Risk Takers" profiles Elon Musk, the entrepreneur who helped create PayPal, built America's first viable fully electric car company, started SpaceX ...

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    4. vongleichent  02/09/2012 11:40 AM Report

      Takes a lot of brain to have that type of motivation.

    5. oilskeptic  11/17/2011 04:40 PM Report

      Dear jj03,

      In an ecological utopia, people would travel by bicycle, so transportation would not contribute to the one quarter of the anthropogenic green house gasses that they do today. However, we live in the real world in which people drive cars. A gallon of gasoline must be refined from petroleum, a process that consumes about 5 kilowatt hours of energy, from those coal plants that you condemn. Those 5 kilowatt hours are enough to move an electric car about 20 miles. The average US car gets about 20 miles per gallon. If that electricity were put straight into an EV, the total emissions are far less with America's current electricity portfolio.

      Why do you hate Elon Musk and his supporters? The market will determine if the hundreds of millions of dollars he earned from PayPal will be continued in Tesla Motors, SpaceX, and SolarCity. His efforts provided an inspiration to the major car companies like GM to produce a product with a much lower carbon footprint that what current cars. The Falcon rocket flights of SpaceX are much cheaper than the Space Shuttle flights, and he has contracts with NASA that are profitable. This emotion will discredit your argument.

    6. OLAN  11/14/2011 03:53 PM Report

      Mr. Musk is a gentleman.

    7. blank  11/12/2011 05:42 AM Report

      http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_19317627 (NOAA greenhouse gas index shows increase in climate-warming gases)

      http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2011/20111109_greenhousegasindex.html (Various)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tgw_zasqL4 (VIDEO: NOAA's Annual Greenhouse Gas Index Update)

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/14/arctic-permafrost-methane (Arctic permafrost leaking methane at record levels, figures show)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_methane_release (Arctic methane release)

      http://www.epa.gov/outreach/sources.html (Sources and Emissions)

      See flops. teragram (Tg): a metric unit of mass equal to 1012 grams or 1 megatonne (one million metric tons).

      http://climate.nasa.gov/kids/bigQuestions/greenhouseEffect/ (What is the greenhouse effect?)

      http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/ (GISS Surface Temperature Analysis)

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100131145840.htm (Stratospheric Water Vapor Is a Global Warming Wild Card)

      http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/vapor_warming.html (Water Vapor Confirmed as Major Player in Climate Change)

      http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/gases.html#watervapor (Water Vapor)

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101014171146.htm (Carbon Dioxide Controls Earth's Temperature, New Modeling Study Shows)

    8. jj03  11/11/2011 07:13 PM Report

      Elon Musk might be a more interesting character, but he offers little substance and just recites his sales pitch. His planned products are for the elite and not really "game changers", but he is a successful business man. I happen to be very skeptical of his business model for both electric cars and space, I think in ten years both of his ventures would fail. But I am in the minority, his followers have become cult-like.

    9. jbb  11/11/2011 03:28 PM Report

      Mr. Lutz appeared to be very uncomfortable in the joint segment with Mr. Musk......I really don't think Lutz is "committed" to the electric car as the car of the future, after all he is an old line "Car Guy"...That being said I hope you will do an in depth interview with Mr Musk who seems to be the more interesting of the two....A car leading edge car manufacturer and provider of outer Space services to our government seems a lot more interesting than going over GM's dismal history....

    10. dtbaker61  11/11/2011 03:12 PM Report

      I think the more important point is that none of the OEMs are offering an EV for sub-$20k... when it IS possible. I converted a gas car to a highway capable full electric for $11k, including LiFePO4 batteries that will last 10 years. I get 50 miles per charge, and completely offset my electricity consumption with grid-tied PV. I wish more people would follow.... envirokarma.org

    11. jj03  11/11/2011 04:12 AM Report

      I cannot recall a more disappointing discussion in Charlie Rose. The obvious question was omitted, what is the carbon footprint of electric vehicles? (given that they run on electricity mostly produced from coal). Charlie made both Robert Lutz and Elon Musk get away with their pitch that they are doing this to save the world, when is obvious the effect of electric vehicles in completely negligible, if not counterproductive, when it comes to their carbon footprint ... they are doing this for money, and there is nothing wrong with that, but lets have an honest discussion.

    12. SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/11/2011 01:43 AM Report

      There are about 137 million automobiles on the road.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_vehicles_in_the_United_States#Total_number_of_vehicles

      Elon says he is looking at making 20,000 Roadster units a year but just 5,000 for next year and he is already sold out for delivery in July.

      Right now it is just spit in the ocean and the "decades to electrify the fleet" may really mean half centuries.

      Perhaps we need to create a bubble?

    13. SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/10/2011 10:25 PM Report

      Charlie, here is a list of production electric cars--FULL SIZE:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_production_battery_electric_vehicles#Full-sized_cars

      From what I understand most are not in the movie.

      The Wheego is supposed to be the least expensive and mostly from Chinese parts.

      At 245 miles the Roadster must have a special battery. I wonder what they are doing?

      I think we need a show/segment on the availability of Lithium and the energy density issue Bob mentioned.

    14. Harryj  11/10/2011 09:14 PM Report

      The tesla toaster oven looks like a carbon copy of the Maserati design.

    15. tabs  11/10/2011 06:43 PM Report

      So we have the Tesla Toaster, followed by the Tesla Toaster Oven. As far as driving range goes bring a long extension cord.

    16. SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/10/2011 02:50 PM Report

      $50K for the basic Roadster to $100K for the performance model—WAY, WAY TOO HIGH!!

      You are cutting wages at GM and have a two-tier pay system and you want to sell a $50 to $100K Roadster? You need the Leaf without the battery price.

      Perhaps watch this episode of Charlie Rose:

      http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11323

      Charlie, perhaps have Shai back in July with Elon?

    17. JohnGelles  11/10/2011 01:14 PM Report

      The Tesla will need a way to fill up on the road. A range of 300 miles is good. But you may not be full when you start out and range anxiety may be waiting for you if the terrain or wind suddenly shortens the expected range.

      An on board generator like the one on the VOLT makes sense -- as a temporary fix until we use hydrogen at the pump -- and fill up as necessary with a range of 250 miles +.

      Direct electric charge may not be better than hydrogen filling stations. It goes without saying that electricity from coal,oil or natural gas burns carbon and ought to be outlawed.

    18. JohnGelles  11/10/2011 01:01 PM Report

      I visited my local dealer and think highly of the VOLT.

      I already have 2 cars and do not need to trade either in. So I need a push to buy the VOLT. So I wrote GM as follows:

      Dear Dan Ankerson,

      I went for a test drive in the Volt. Congratulations. It exceeded all my expectations. The car had so many features--driving, charging, fueling, GPS, On Star, Radio, Music, Audio Books, Dash Board, Alarms, Lights, AC, Windshield Wipers, etc.-- I will have to enroll in community college to study Volt 101 or buy Volt for Dummies and hire a tutor who really knows ALL there is to know about the car.

      Which brings me to this letter. Please help customers by setting up a simulator or an audio-visual room to learn all they need to know in several one hour visits to the dealer (who happens to be convenient and outstanding).

      Also, please help with formation of clubs or joint-ownership systems to allow more than one owner to share a Volt the way they do light planes and small yachts.

      I'm ready to buy, as far as your splendid product goes. But I would like to be more sure I will not suffer buyer's remorse.

      =======================

      Elon Musk is a genius and extremely sensible. Getting away from CO2 and burning carbon makes complete sense no matter what. Lutz is a moron on the matter.

    19. Ellen_Dibble  11/10/2011 10:33 AM Report

      There was a clip from the Lutz interview put up by the producer at the beginning of the intro which encapsulated my view of the greater business agenda. More or less, Lutz was pointing out that the business schools (Harvard, Wharton, MIT, Stanford...) teach students how to find pockets where savings can be had at the bottom, but the assumption is that no savings will be grabbed from the top. That is off the table, sort of. So. I'm setting that against a day when President Obama has signed the No More Swag bill, meaning no more T-shirts and tote bags, no more lunches and weekends on the government dime. Okay. But that's not the core of it. In the United States, if you want to be situated to take advantage of this great Money-Making machine, which the business schools teach, according to Lutz (I suspect he's right), you have to have money in the stock market, one way of the other. A person should invest their first newspaper-delivering dollar, one's first lawn-mowing dollar, where it has a chance to grow. And the tax system should make it possible for Americans to do just that. And you look at the rate at which assets for Americans in urban ghettos have been able to do that (or in public housing or what have you), and you see that American assets at the lowest levels have been funneled into housing (big gaffe, apparently) or shunted away, as if the government might notice it and tax it. Obamacare (and Romneycare) are designed to do just that, in those cases effectively tax you highly till you get to the median, the $45,000 level. At that point, you can start to be part of the profit-making machinery; your money is your own, to save and profit from. It's great to see an industrialist who gets that. I couldn't stand to listen beyond that, being afraid he would gainsay that starting point.

      (But I wouldn't buy a car with those profits, especially not a two-ton car; I'm looking for a souped-up bicycle, one easy on the climate.)

    20. REMant  11/10/2011 10:30 AM Report

      I can't say anything about the cars, tho I don't doubt they are better - they'd have to be - but the reason I supported saving GM when nearly no one else did, is that it was far better than a lot of other things ppl wanted to spend money on, and which deserved to fail, because cars are the heart of manufacturing in this country. To have let the investors win on this would have been foolhardy, and reward speculation over labor. I won't say that labor has always deserved this kind of treatment, nor certainly the GM management, but in this case they clearly did.

      I'm sure the accountants do as Lutz says, but they do it in the service of the markets. To get around this I think it may be necessary to take many companies private. However, I think another major problem for car makers is the old-fashioned "wheel of retailing," where businesses try to be too many things to too many ppl and ignore both inherent design limitations and the things that made them great. This no doubt is also influenced by "bean-counting" since cost accountants always look for economies of scale. And I think cos in this country generally have looked for the biggest profit margins, and ignored the common man to everyone's detriment. The result was to make a deluxe model for the upper brackets and incrementally strip it down for the lower classes, much as we do health care.

      I think it was a smart move to make the Volt more flexible than originally planned. But I still think we need to develop battery rental stations, like gas stations. That would both lower the purchase price and remove the risk for the consumer concerning this expensive and uncertain element to market expansion.

      Racing is limited a lot by the tracks, which are not easily changed, and there are limits period - Indy long ago outlawed jet engines - tho this can clearly be taken too far. I think there's still some possibility for technological innovation in that business, but I can't see banning four-wheel drive cars, battery-powered or otherwise, first developed before WWI and run at the brickyard in 1931 and again in 1965.