Charlie Rose

finalfantasytown  06/08/2012 03:10 AM Report

'base' is replaced by 'fundament'

finalfantasytown  06/08/2012 02:05 AM Report

I fully understand the base, the cause, and the significance of catch 22. I know the way to find out Gods if 20 is the God number because I borrow this number. For the cause, I begin from studying flowers, especially in NC for Charlie. For final fantasy!

JohnGelles  10/21/2011 06:36 AM Report

http://ustaxreform.us/.crs.htm

I forgot to sign comment below with link above to similar ideas.

JohnGelles  10/21/2011 06:18 AM Report

Catch 22 is certainly "more compelling" to an audience of buyers who have not read the title than Catch 18 or Catch 14.

How do I know that? That is the "catch". I don't. 23 Skidoo certainly makes the grade that 22 Skidoo does not.

In all events, the snafu's, fubar's, paradoxes, and catch 22's in war and life are omnipresent. And none were ever greater than the one's we experience today in trying to negotiate a course between too little money and too much debt when both money and debt are the "same thing " and "opposite things" simultaneously.

I just listened to Ray Dalio, of Bridgewater Hedge Fund performance fame, and Charlie Rose explain:

..... (1) deleveraging is reducing your debt over net-worth ratio from, say, 30 to 10, over many years, in order to build it back up -- to fuel prosperity at a later date, and

..... (2) reasoned calm discussion, debate and decision, of what tomorrow will bring, in terms of economic performance of investments (and impliedly of other uncertainties) should be welcomed to find the "real truth" and otherwise "get ahead" of the competition or "not get" too far behind it.

Evidence in terms of profits and wealth supports a very high opinion of Ray Dalio's understanding of securities markets as they are.

Charlie wanted to know if America and other players ought to do something to find the jobs, supply and demand, missing since 2007. Dalio, to his credit, included money printing, haircuts (write-downs), and transfers of wealth from the wealthy to the needy, were all possible.

The Catch 22 in all of this is that people as they have evolved from dumb animals to verbose idiots are constitutionally unable to welcome opinions not already fixed in their mind EXCEPT when they "learn" a lesson. And such learning remains uncertain until it occurs.

Listen to me: money-printing is the solution -- followed closely in time by production and delivery of what money should buy. To earn a living is to make money when you live where people produce all the things that money must buy.

Think of barter. It is the beginning of economics. Think of work in cooperation with other people not in terms of eating their lunch as well as your own. That is the end of all the economics Dalio and Rose never mentioned.

But Dalio was good. He said what we never mention and do not know is as important as much of what we think, say and know for sure.

He was very fast to say the great national leaders currently in office don't follow the common sense rules for improving economic outcomes that he has prescribed for his hedge fund. These include open-minded discussion similar to all the above.

winter  10/20/2011 01:50 PM Report

The lessons offered in Catch 22 aren't far off the mark where how business as usual works in reality when you consider how shenanigans, like (my shrinking candy bar) junkets and bonuses at the top, were done with the stimulus monies. Looking out onto the scene you could swear that the underlying motivation for

career paths could be described as "doing what you love" is avoiding real work. I wouldn't be surprised at the need to readjust our baseline for cynicism after the meltdown at a few orders of magnitude towards absurdity vertigo. Treatment for Absurdity Vertigo could provide the cause for opening new wings in hospitals across America. When they gather round the table at Big Pharma dreaming up maladies theres gold in them thar hills. And there are opinions alluding to the fact that "you ain't seen nuthin yet" where runs on the banks and canned goods are concerned. The Times are interesing ...sigh!

REMant  10/20/2011 11:50 AM Report

I recall plodding through the novel sometime in the late '60s or early '70s, or at least a major portion of it. I found it less than edifying, but, of course, I grew up in what you might call a military family and had seen enough of it myself.

Governments have expected military service from citizens or subjects from time immemorial. Protest against service has never been considered cause for medical discharge, tho many have been transferred to conscientious objector status. But I doubt psychiatrists or any other doctors were prohibited from decertifying pilots without their permission. M.A.S.H had that guy running around in drag. Stupid as it was, it was much closer to life in a war zone, or at least it was before the advent of air-conditioned trailers, food courts, female officers and the Internet. That sort of behavior was accepted as long as the job was more-or-less performed, at least in a temporary army. Pre-20th c armies often went into battle drunk. Things are a lot more serious nowadays - witness the hoopla over that captain's parody of shipboard homosexuality. Bad as universal service might seem, professional armies are a lot worse, and have always been considered so by real democrats.

Erle Stanley Gardner wrote the same book some 80 times, and it isn't that uncommon.

The more you write, the less you care about editing, I suppose, because, esp in these days of word processing, authors do a lot of it themselves.