Charlie Rose

JohnGelles  09/23/2011 07:28 AM Report

Well -- the comment below slipped miraculously on to the wrong page.

JohnGelles  09/23/2011 07:22 AM Report

Rose and Lehrer are NOT self-selected questioners and commentators on the issues of the day. REMant, Lazes and Gelles are.

There is a huge difference in the results of the selection process. Rose and Lehrer may not be the best at their exalted tasks. But they competed with others and certainly are not the worst. Rem, Laz and Gel, avoided competition and probably are, therefore, among the worst in all the audience, in terms of competence and excellence, for taking up space in the archives of the CR Show.

Or, are they?

They did not compete. But they did decide. They decided to inflict their words on the space. REMant, in particular, decided to compete for first comment at the bottom of the list we read in reverse chronological order. So he is not only first nearly all the time, but he is also the worst because his intention is to beat the rest in being first NOT not in being best.

Or is he?

Well, anyway, Rose and Lehrer are paid in money. R, L and G are paid in ego-points. These are worth no cash at all. They are obviously worth the opportunity cost of typing and sharing with themselves their own thoughts. The number of people in the gross audience for the show who actually read any particular commentator may be less than 10. My wish is that for R, the number is less than 2.

As for Tension City, the book will be read by many people even if not by me. I remember Lehrer from before he was picked by his fellow Texan (Robert Strauss, maybe -- if memory serves ??) to move on to the evening PBS national news up from the local news in Dallas. He was a Marine when he served, and he had a pleasant voice. His partner in Dallas, was a dark haired beauty who was a local celebrity if not a PBS national celebrity. She had by far the more prominent voice. But she did not have the fame of Lehrer, who had written a movie or a book that gained him much attention.

All trivia aside, Rose, Lehrer and I would all be dead but for the heart surgeons who saved our lives. Have we done our duty to our times? Have we ever had a thought or said out loud something wise enough to share with other people. Have those two ever understood what they were telling this great nation? If you ask them they will say yes. If make them repeat it in any detail -- well I leave it to you to know if they'd be right. Rose and Oprah do sell books. Lehrer writes them. Non-celebrities may read them.

In the end it seems, not even winning presidential debaters and contenders make much difference. We have all turned great victories over right and left wing maniacs into the dust of defeat by our own ignorance of what to do and how to do it to root the four freedoms in the soil of a better earth as time moves forward and the future becomes the past.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/22/2011 05:30 PM Report

71 visits Mr. Blair?

So then, this whole "happening" was on the radar screen and you are now reading from your playbook?

Why am I now laughing?

ChongSunWah  09/22/2011 04:25 PM Report

It is not important Jew or not Jew we are all children of God. As the children of God we must come together to promote the beauty of all religions to bring peace, harmony and unity to the world.

http://www.worldharmonyday.com/supportus.php

JohnGelles  09/22/2011 08:44 AM Report

On REMant and his view of all or any Jews:

It has appears to me that REMant is fond of the Austrian school of economics and Ludwig von Mises (the Jew) its principle founder and its preponderance of Jewish intellectuals among its adherents.

If this is so, REMant is a Jew-o-phile not a Jew-o-phobe. "phile" signifying love of, and "phobe" signifying fear of.

Of course, there may be better tests of one's love of Jews than their love of Austrian school intellectuals. I for one love all my relatives who return that affection -- that would include the whole human race.

JohnGelles  09/22/2011 07:50 AM Report

In my last 2 paragraphs below, I meant "pleased" with Ben Ezraa, and Jewish "Americans" are particularly proud, not "please" and "America", as typed without their last letter.

Sorry once more for the absence of post-send edit here on the CR show.

As long as I'm here let me edit my opponent REMant -- who wrote:

..... "If you believe as Mr Blair does that Israelis have all along only been concerned with security, I'd reply they are a ppl of far less faith in human nature than those, like him, who think the Jews [are] as oppressed as those they [Blair] commiserate[s] with generally, and unfortunately informs their idea of tolerance. If he thinks the issue of peace is just a matter of tactics, I'd say the time for [Blair's] talking has been over as long as the time for [the Bush-Obama] 'stimulus.' "

..... What nonsense mis-informs REMant opinion. The time of talk by Blair and other diplomats is at hand. It is not over. REMant's ideas are all over the place and out of sync with logic and history.

..... The time for stimulating demand is at hand. If we want business to invest in new business, demand is still missing and profit to risky for big investment by any source but Bernanke and other printers of reserve currencies. REMant is no economist. He may be a Hayekian. For sure he is always wrong.

JohnGelles  09/22/2011 07:23 AM Report

The current diplomatic effort by Palestine and Israel to win friends and influence people within their own "nations" and outside them, is infinitely more attractive than the violence of intifada or the greater game of war.

For historical (and countless related reasons) Israel on its own is ready for war. Palestine on its own needs Turkey and all Arabia to raise this conflict to that level.

America and Israel represent more modernity in the current situation than do their opponents. Modernity as a goal may not resolve the fundamental issues that leaders in all concerned nations may chose to face. It is enough for me.

Palestine and Arabia have population, land and oil on their side. Israel without America might be doomed to extinction and death if war were the ultimate solution -- and it were fought decades later than now. Those in this forum who would prefer such an ultimate outcome may be few in number -- even zero. But the thought of them arouses feelings of anger: such anger is natural when we examine the history of Jews in America and of Islamists in Arabia.

In my view, Ben Ezraa knows his history. Others here do not. They know the propaganda against Israel and the Jews. Over recent years the Jewish view of history has been presented by Abba Eban, Michael Oren, Shimon Peres, Benjamin Netanyahu, and others whose words I have loved to hear.

The Islamist view from Arabia and Palestine has championed murder and unreasoning hate of Jews more closely resembling the hate between Iraq and Iran that animated their tragic war with each other.

I am pleased with Tony Blair, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in the present diplomatic struggle. I am also please with Ben Ezraa -- although his angry words are more colloquial than mine at the moment.

Jewish American are particularly proud of our Jewish scientists and military personnel, like those who contributed to our nuclear deterrent and nuclear Navy. We believe America, its Jews and Israel, are one: are one force for good on earth. Our opponents in the recent past whose, pogroms, murders and hate resulted in a stronger America than Jew-haters planned, are not without new voices that have no love of Jews. To my ears Blair, Obama and Clinton love Jews . And I love them for it. They may or may not agree with me on every aspect of "what to do next", but they love America and Israel. And so do I.

Obzervor  09/22/2011 06:01 AM Report

Well Tony Blair seems to already have his mind made up. As for Blair's mention of 'they have to set borders' before they get a state; does Mr Blair know that Israel is already a state- without borders?! Or is he just hoping that the listeners don't hear what he says? So yes, apparently, you can have a state without having declared borders. I expect nothing more than Blair's support for the status quo in regards to the Palestine-Israel issue.

As for 'AIPAC' and other such Zionist political (and or financial gunslingers) their roles are also to maintain the status quo. I expect the powers that be to do what they're going to do; that is, to say, I don't expect anything good from them. In any case, I wish that those that suffer most in this prolonged conflict- the Palestinians and their children- will hopefully find some reprieve.

BENEZRAA  09/22/2011 01:12 AM Report

SAME OLD CRAP FROM THE SAME OLD CRAPPERS BELOW....

RE: RTB: Get off it, already! Contrary to the stink dogma you spread, the world is not ruled by AIPAC nor by a global conspiracy of Jews to take over the world....

RE: CHARLIZECOURIERS (AND ROBDVERITY ON ANOTHER PAGE): Do you honestly think for a moment that the Arabs, who fought alongside the British and with British help during WW1 in order to free themselves from the cruel Ottoman Empire of the Turks (allied at that time with Germany of course), have forgotten the cruelty of the Germans and the Turks? Do you think the Arabs have forgotten their debt to the British? The economic development in their nations that became possible thanks to the British? Do you think that the Arabs are unaware of the influences of Germany, Russia, and Turkey in Iran, Syria, and now even Egypt today?

RE: ANTON GRAMBIHLER: You may cherry-pick and interpret the history of Jerusalem as you like, but, for the benefit of the rest of us and more particularly for the benefit of the Arabs, Jews, and International persons, whose lives are actually at stake in Jerusalem, take some time to actually learn the history and see for yourself that in modern history it is only under Israeli hegemony that Jerusalem has enjoyed religious freedom for all peoples of all religions in relative peace, marred only by terrorists acts of Arabs. And get off your ignorant horse about those "claiming to be Jews", as Jews know who they are and have for millenia paid with their lives for the privilege of their identity. As for the incident of the US Liberty, it is the Liberty that was at fault for being in Israeli waters -- despite Israeli warnings -- during the demanding time of the Six Day War, when Israel faced serious threat of annihilation by all it's Arab neighbors, all of whom with the tenuous exceptions of Egypt and Jordan, are still in a state of war with Israel.

RE: REMANT: Where do you get off with such a gross and ignorant statement as yours below, that Jews "are a ppl of far less faith in human nature than those, like [Mr. Blair']..."? While I do share your enthusiasm for Mr. Blair's humanitarianism, I do not share your bigotry towards Jews [and not merely because I myself am Jewish]. As I am not the Lord Above, I make no statement as to which People or Peoples have more or less faith in human nature; that would be arrogant. But, I have known many, many goodly souls, Jewish and non-Jewish. I do not number you among those goodly souls, REMant. You are an arrogant bigot and a smart aleck; your pretense is at best a thin, ragged, polyesther dinner jacket of pseudo-intellectual roughage.

RE: SHARKSWITHFRIKINGLAZERS: Thanks for the Red, White, and Blue moment -- a pleasant reprieve from the preceding garbage!

SharkswithfrikingLazers  09/21/2011 06:49 PM Report

RED tie, WHITE shirt, BLUE jacket.

Secret message received Mr. Blair.

By the way, you look marvelous!

rtb  09/21/2011 06:12 PM Report

Wouldn't it be more clear and to the point to hear the Israeli demands from a AIPAC leader instead of consultants like Blair? I think most aware Americans understand where the powers reside, all else is a monotonous deja vu. Swear to god, my great grand children will be hearing the same old sides.

charlizecourriers  09/21/2011 05:03 PM Report

Tony the Blare has no idea what is coming despite his fantasy that it's just a matter of a few land swaps. Rose again refuses to bring in the history of the Brits-their secret deals to deny Arabs their rights going back a century. The more things change the more they remain...

AntonGrambihler  09/21/2011 04:18 PM Report

It is amazing that Tony Blair does not realize that the boundaries of Israel, Palestine, and Jerusalem were determined when the United Nations authorized the division of the British Mandate or Palestine into 3 parts. A part for the Palestine People, a part for the people who call themselves Israel and claim to be Jewish, and a part (Jerusalem) for all the People of the World.

On June 5, 1967, Israel illegally attacked Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. Israel is still illegally occupying some of this land INCLUDING THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY OF JERUSALEM.

On June 8, 1967, Israeli forces attacked the USS Liberty in International waters and killed 34 Americans and wounded 171. The United States apparently surrender to Israel and AIPAC. Will the 100% Citizens of the United States need to rise up in order to bring the Rule of Law enforced equally on all people back to the United States?

REMant  09/21/2011 12:43 PM Report

If you believe as Mr Blair does that Israelis have all along only been concerned with security, I'd reply they are a ppl of far less faith in human nature than those, like him, who think the Jews as oppressed as those they commiserate with generally, and unfortunately informs their idea of tolerance. If he thinks the issue of peace is just a matter of tactics, I'd say the time for talking has been over as long as the time for "stimulus." If it can be said that the present mood in that region is pro-"democracy," then it certainly would make Israel and Palestine look like odd men out. Unfortunately I don't think the unrest has been motivated by that at all, and the situation seems to me to fit the pattern of ethnic nationalism we've seen the past several decades worldwide. I really doubt either party is as concerned about peace as territory. I am reminded of Mr Hague's observation about Blair a number of years ago: "This government thinks Britain would be all right if we had a different people. I think Britain would be all right, if only we had a different Government."