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robdverity 05/31/2011 05:15 PM Report
bated not baited.
robdverity 05/31/2011 12:48 AM Report
Whew! Waited with baited breath for that clarification.
doodah 05/30/2011 07:26 PM Report
'Liberal' or 'liberal' in the context I am using to describe a one 'robdverity' and his like-minded brethren, is EXTREMIST FANATIC (like Extremist-Nazi-Atheist-Fanatic-Punks).
Not the 'normal' "Liberal" definition.
doodah 05/30/2011 06:55 PM Report
Poor robd. So one dimensional and shallow trapped in his mega-hypocrite stereotyping small tiny liberal brain.
robdverity 05/30/2011 05:01 PM Report
Neil - it's too easy to say we ascribe everything wrong to the Jews - it dissembles and deflects. Much of what's seriously geopolitically wrong is Zionism and Zionists.
My pessimism says it will end disastrously - for everyone not just Israel. Lynch-pin for dooms-day type BS.
robdverity 05/30/2011 04:54 PM Report
doodah do you ever embarrass yourself. Your all too close relative doodahdaze often posted antisemitic bile (that helped get you censored to your reincarnated doodah). Your hypocrisy is pathetic.
Your killing Jesus ref. must sit well with the very ones you now are currying favor. You conservative Christians are probably an indirect cause of the creation of Israel - a rebound conscience for maltreatment of Jews, a la the Holocaust.
Would Israel exist if the Holocaust never happened?
dood, you make me feel superior enuff to ask this condescending question: What are you going to be when you grow up?
doodah 05/30/2011 04:51 PM Report
Neil,
I must say you've thrown me off guard, I never suspected YOU (of all people), of being a 'Phantom of the Oprah'. ..i guess you never really know someone.
NeilMacCallister 05/30/2011 03:08 PM Report
No one "pardons" people who curse in public, or strive to express only insult.
Please protect this neighborhood, or it will surely be lost.
Don't litter, keep this porch tidy, plant yourself here attractively.
Oprah said "We all have value". Let's show what we can do!
doodah 05/30/2011 07:29 AM Report
... no different than the Liberals who killed Jesus and started World War II.
doodah 05/30/2011 06:31 AM Report
... and it's interesting, most of them are rich and allergic to REAL work, or they are poor and allergic to ANY work.
doodah 05/30/2011 06:05 AM Report
Exactly, For being SO 'ANTI-RELIGION' and 'LIBERALLY TOLERANT' of all peoples (esp. the poor and uneducated's poor behavior (mine excluded) robd, sure does buy into and promotes the dogma of such a little tiny plot of land (with hardly a resource on it) for being RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE WORLDS ILLS. How convenient for the Godless Liberals, that a Israel exists as a convenient scapegoat for the reality of their Tiny Small Minds (Liberal Minds).
Pardon my language, but Liberals are full of Shit.
NeilMacCallister 05/30/2011 01:06 AM Report
Hah! ..rob I'm laughing "LMAO"!!
You are expressing the VERBATUM script that David Mamet published just this morning in the WSJ!!!!:
"Liberals say, 'Everything is wrong! ..There's a bad bad thing in the world! ..And it's probably the Jews!'"
Hah!!! ..I didn't believe him! ..I thought he must be exaggerating!! ..but you have proved him true!!!!
Thank you so much!!
LMAO!!!
robdverity 05/30/2011 12:10 AM Report
IF Israel is a democracy for Jews only that's about like ours - it's for plutocrats only. Democracies are no assurance for anything - ask Hamas. Will we create a democracy for everyone except Latinos? It subverts the word.
Undoing Israel is like unscrambling an egg, which all the more emphasises points 1. thru 4:
1. The creation of Israel was the biggest geopolitical mistake since WWII.
2. The world would be a much safer and better place without Israel. (Or ever having been created in the first place.)
3. Our support for Israel caused 9/11, thus Iraq, thus Af-Pak, thus hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars.
4. Our fiscal and ec. crisis is largely traceable to Israel and our support of same.
It's creation has and will continue to be a carbuncle on the backside of mankind. It's existence will continue to create more net grief. Its rationalization - after the fact - does not ameliorate anything, except your own sense of "its a good thing," despite evidence to the contrary.
doodah 05/29/2011 06:48 PM Report
Why don't you show us your grand 'adult' capacity for 'superior' objectivity, robd. And ANSWER NeilMacCallister's Good Adult Questions.?
Don't forget to use Big Words. :)
NeilMacCallister 05/29/2011 05:53 PM Report
doodah, ..I said "invective", not "incentive". Cuss words are weak. Please help me to avoid them myself.
rob, ..doodah did answer your (unsupported) opinions with a few roughly accurate facts; although Iraq is also a Middle-Eastern nation attempting democracy, and Israel is a "base" only in the sense of an "outpost" of democracy.
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#7 ?? ..You state that "We give Israel a $2.0 billion MILITARY grant annually". Why does Israel need to spend $2.0 billion dollars each year to maintain its defense?
Has someone been attacking those lands?
I guess there are people world-wide who desire the world's sacred places preserved and protected, and not burned down like the churches recently burned in Egypt and elsewhere. So those peoples contribute to the defense of those places.
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Those lands were apportioned to the Jews by legal internationally agreed charters. Does someone other than you wish those charters never happened? ..Okay, but life must go on.
Should the Jews instead have been allotted a "right of return" to Germany, Poland, ..and maybe Lithuania? That was a road not taken, ..should we undertake that route now???
The British said, here, we turn the administration of this part of our protectorate over to you, and this other part to the Palestinians.
I guess some people did not appreciate the post-war(s) treaty councils making those decisions. But those dissenters lost in the voting, did they not?
Obviously you think those decisions should be overthrown, and that constant revolution is a better state of life than stable economic progress. Okay, ..but most people vote against you.
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Someone here said "Peace comes when people stop fighting", ..and I guess that's true.
Good luck, ..God Bless, ..I'll go finish my stucco patch.
robdverity 05/29/2011 04:40 PM Report
I responded to your 5, 6, (7 here). Where's the response to 1-4?
7. "Israel takes care of their own ...." Then why do we subsidize them EVERY YEAR? It's doubtful Israel would exist without US support.
Your usual potty-mouthed pandering is puerile and vacuous. You sacrifice saying anything for 3rd grade word-play. An adult response to this paragraph would be none. As I have dropped precipitously to your level I too am remiss with the Submit click. But alas, I'm as petty as you - obviously. Not a proud moment, but there you have it. Click!
robdverity 05/29/2011 03:59 PM Report
So democracy is a panacea? How's that working out for you? We elected Bush and Cheney - enuff said (for a sane person).
And Israel is a base - to where? We're already in Iraq, Bahrain yadda, yadda. We need more like we need to add to our deficit. We have nearly 900 bases offshore, over 3800 on or over 4700 total.
We give Israel a $2.0 billion military grant annually; despite Israel's debt being smaller as a per cent of GDP than ours. They could start returning some of that largess.
With friends like Israel we don't need enemies, but that's what we net. Refer 9/11.
doodah 05/29/2011 02:32 PM Report
@ NeilMacCallister 05/29/2011 01:33 PM
"Wow, doodah!! (..and you said that WITHOUT INCENTIVES!!!)"
"...without incentives." - huh, Really Neil?
What kind of citizen would I be, to just sit back and let some rude punk hippy degenerate like, robdverity, ATTACK an elderly AMERICAN WWII veteran of his ethnicity?. no no no, Never in my presence.
Have a Happy and Safe Memorial Day everyone. Especially OUR VETERANS. God Bless.
NeilMacCallister 05/29/2011 01:42 PM Report
Sorry, I should have said "without cussing" since that is what I meant.
Your "animals squaloring" was invective, and incorrect.
It's a hard life everywhere, ..and everybody needs to help each other.
NeilMacCallister 05/29/2011 01:33 PM Report
Wow, doodah!! (..and you said that without invectives!!!)
8. If Stanley Fischer heads the IMF, Palestinians will get infrastructure financings!
doodah 05/29/2011 07:12 AM Report
You forgot these, robd
5. Israel is the Only Democracy in that part of the world.
6. Israel is America's Best ally in that part of the world. And is a strategic base.
7. Israel takes care of their own and adds value to the world (without the benefit of sitting on a stockpile of oil). In other words, they educate their children and instill hard work ethics in them. They don't live like a bunch jealous animals squaloring in the dessert, which is pretty typical of their proximate enemies; who would be causing trouble for themselves and the rest of the world even without an 'Israel' to blame for their own ignorance.
robdverity 05/28/2011 05:56 PM Report
Hey Gelles - your ad hominems give away your inadequacies. Your emotions detract from your logic which is already so Zionistically imploded you have no objectivity.
Here's some things for you to refute (sans ad hominems).
1. The creation of Israel was the biggest geopolitical mistake since WWII.
2. The world would be a much safer and better place without Israel.
3. Our support for Israel caused 9/11, thus Iraq, thus Af-Pak, thus hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars.
4. Our fiscal and ec. crisis is largely traceable to Israel and our support of same.
NeilMacCallister 05/28/2011 04:03 AM Report
Actually, shelgr, ..I believe Mr. Mitchell is handing you the war you seem to desire.
George Mitchell: "The Israelis and the Palestinians have to thrash out a solution on their own."
Oh well, ..I guess civilization is just too boring for too many people.
shelgr3 05/28/2011 12:56 AM Report
This interview was nauseating. Mitchell was practically down on his knees begging the Israelis not to take offense at Obama's latest speech. Good that he quit, although I don't hold out much hope that he'll be replaced by anyone who isn't totally in the pocket of the Israelis.
JohnGelles 05/27/2011 11:21 PM Report
Thirty minutes with George Mitchell, a professional in bringing peace to people who take advantage of his smarts and expertise, is as good as it gets in this world of ours -- here and now.
As usual the nuts who spout nonsense on this board disagree. They hear none of his common sense -- and they have none of their own.
The CR Show is to be commended for the Mitchell conversation: he covered all the issues we Americans must decide on. He is a Democrat with whom no conservative disagrees. He may not be able to bring peace to Jews and Arabs. But he brings great honor to the United States -- and that is enough for any reasonable American.
This board is full of odd ball opinions that compute to zero in effect -- and even in intention. No Palestinian would be satisfied with their eccentricities -- nor should they be: the anti-Congress, anti-Mitchell types here are loose nuts good for nothing at all. We are rivals of many great nations and a lone friend to a tiny one called Israel. We could dump this tiny nation and the world would be the same.
..... But we don't because -- just as Jefferson fought the Barbary pirates -- our presidents and people have fought our enemies who would kill three thousand American civilians rather than attack Israeli military targets.
Shame on all their comments and their neglect of Mitchell's voice of reason because their heads are full of garbage.
On Memorial Day we will remember the heroic fighters who make it safe for them to be as stubborn and as stupid as they like. Stupidity was not their aim and certainly not their choice. But it comes with the freedom to ignore George Mitchell.
If only all our nuts would be raised under Sharia law and custom -- and the young Arabs looking for American help could be exchanged for them -- we would see some fair understanding of history and war.
I know these American fools will not read all of Wikipedia on these issues. It's too long and complex for facile grasp. But they will continue to play the fool and hold on to opinions that make no sense to the billions who will not be converted to Sharia law or Muslim culture: these only include all the Earth not now under that rule -- and most of them as well, as they become more like us each day.
doodah 05/27/2011 06:37 PM Report
I wish you had said that too, robd. I'd would have had so much more respect for your intellect. On Spot.
robdverity 05/27/2011 05:06 PM Report
charlize - wish I'd said that! Spot on.
charlizecourriers 05/27/2011 03:47 PM Report
Palestinians are not going to negotiate with Zionists now--why should they? Their hand is only getting stronger as each day goes by. I predict that within two years citizens from all over the world will peacefully march on Jerusalem and liberate Jerusalem from Zionist oppression. The only answer to this conflict is a One State solution, imposed by the world on the local actors. It is a fantasy that any politican of the United States can impose a biased solution; that fantasy applies to Charlie Rose and his biased guests. The last and greatest outrage of 20th century colonialism must be repudiated and reversed! Peacefully, of course.
SharkswithfrikingLazers 05/27/2011 02:37 PM Report
'So did you fail?' Great question Charlie.
Of course not because you can never win. This just goes on forever.
REMant 05/27/2011 12:12 PM Report
I think it is generally acknowledged that either the president misspoke or he backtracked, take your choice. But there is no getting around the fact that the Israeli govt finds itself in the same position as the autocratic govts now under attack by the West throughout the region. It is also hard to accept the idea that conflict should be resolved by the two parties themselves, when the US gives Israel billions of dollars of arms every year. Like many others, Mitchell, it appears, has never examined what he means by democracy. Until he does, I think, he will make no more sense than the rest. The problem with the weapons of war, I'd say, lies not in their destructiveness, but in their ability to kill without fighting. As I argued regarding the segment with Ms Albright, there is considerable benefit to be found in ordinary combat, just as there is in a market unfettered by either regulation or welfare. Nothing will make the horse drink as readily.