Charlie Rose

robdverity  05/15/2011 07:01 PM Report

As soon as you learn some more Spanish, even you will not notice. Olah! Or is it Ciao?

doodah  05/15/2011 04:23 PM Report

@ robdverity 05/15/2011 03:21 PM

That certainly SIMPLIFIES everything :) ... and to think, I was worried there might be some 'cultural' borders as well. silly me

robdverity  05/15/2011 03:21 PM Report

Malthusian theory might argue that the only real borders are economic.

doodah  05/15/2011 08:47 AM Report

Apparently, statistics also show that Warren Buffet is more popular in Mexico than George Washington.

They probably think, since he's a rich democrat ('Mexican friend') voter, that he'll buy Texas, California, and Arizona and return them to their RIGHTFUL owners, the incredible FAILED state of Mexico. .. Woo Hoo! Dancing and Litter in the streets. As well as rampant UNEMPLOYMENT throughout the Gringo Land!!! Ding Dong the Gringos Dead! LOL

SharkswithfrikingLazers  05/15/2011 03:39 AM Report

I was surprised to see what looks to be the use of birth control in Mexico. My experience has been otherwise:

"Fertility rates have also decreased from 5.7 children per woman in 1976 to 2.2 in 2006.[5]

Also, the Mexican youth population contrasts starkly with America's Baby Boomer numbers:

"While Mexico is now transitioning to the third phase of demographic transition, close to 50% of the population in 2009 was 25 and younger.[4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Mexico

NeilMacCallister  05/15/2011 12:48 AM Report

I just don't get it, ..what are you people arguing about??

We have two nations, ..and one border between us, ..

..do we have a border between us????

Do we have a border between us??

Do we have a border? ..or not?

U.S President Obama says, "Hell, no!"

Mexico President Calderon says, "I wish we didn't."

So, does anybody know? .Do we have a border between our nations???

doodah  05/14/2011 09:55 PM Report

Mikey my boy! What happened to your sense of humor?! You been hittin the firewater?! Chill out and have some barbecued iguana!

robdverity  05/14/2011 06:44 PM Report

Contrary sensationalism supplants thought.

Mikeyvillarreal  05/14/2011 04:33 PM Report

"...I like to think I'm helping a Poor Soul; so, I prefer them to stay Poor. :)"

If Warren Buffet came up to me and says what you just did, I would have no excuse but to reamin silent. But you?

Yes of course, I assume you are the textboox incarnation of american success, LOL. You probaly fly coach and drive a 2005 honda civic your father in law gave you for Christmas.

American's like you, with your unwarranted arrogance, are the main reason why the world hates your country and assumes every american is that way.

I feel bad for the real, hard-working, plural and nuanced americans that are out there; because their atributes always get overshadowed by fourth-class, trashy simpletons like you who will never transcend.

doodah  05/14/2011 11:19 AM Report

...that was about the same time, 'Ford' (and the other BIG 2) started designing auto parts to break.

Ah yes, 'the Me Generation', gotta love um. :)

doodah  05/14/2011 10:07 AM Report

...it's like my Grand-Pappy used to say, "It's like a big circle, Grasshopper. You reap what you sow; so, if you sow thinly veiled garbage so too shall you reap, Creep", and then he'd LamBlast me with a karate chop to the back of the neck.

doodah  05/14/2011 07:10 AM Report

...that way, Junior, doesn't have to break a sweat and get his fingernails dirty. And concentrate on his studies to be a 'Financial Guru', If he could just get in with 'Goldman Sachs', 'the family' will be set for life.

doodah  05/14/2011 06:58 AM Report

...I like to think I'm helping a Poor Soul; so, I prefer them to stay Poor. :)

doodah  05/14/2011 06:34 AM Report

Plus, if CORRUPTION all of a sudden disappeared, who would I get to cut my grass and clean my house for a handful of quarters?

These are questions one must ask.

LWalss  05/13/2011 10:25 PM Report

Rampant1 if you are going to point out injustices in Mexico. Why don't we point out a few in the United States. For instance all of the illegal consumption of Drugs. Timothy McVeigh infiltrating Oklahoma city. Many other other examples are available. There is impunity and corruption all over the world. Let's look at Chicago, where the governor was selling senate seats. You're comments are ludicrous and always remember that before judging another country, one must judge one's own. Calderon is a confident leader who is fighting corruption. We must commend him for doing this and fix our problems in the United States before placing the blame on the supply side of the issue. You can never beat the laws of supply and demand and you cannot focus only on one side to beat a very very complex problem.

Rampant1  05/13/2011 09:32 PM Report

This is hilarious. Today,in Mexico City, Calderon compared himself with Winston Churchill stating:

"I will be victorious as Churchill"

conniecf  05/13/2011 07:45 PM Report

Thank you Charlie, Hope some sense comes to enlighten those politicians' who oppose him and finally agree to change laws for the better of Mexico. And those local and state authorities do their job taking care of delinquency

Rampant1  05/13/2011 07:21 PM Report

Hey Mickey..the news are FROM Mexican newspapers and magazines like Excelsior, El Universal, Reforma, Proceso. Have you ever read them?

doodah  05/13/2011 07:14 PM Report

Mikey, I've known many Mexicans (Indians) over the years (in the USA) and you are the MOST OPTIMISTIC. I didn't even know you existed. lol Talk about a minority.

Mikeyvillarreal  05/13/2011 07:09 PM Report

"Country's", "Passed", "News"... pardon my spelling hehe, not my native tongue...

Mikeyvillarreal  05/13/2011 07:07 PM Report

Again, "Rampant1", you are just regurgitanting whatever you heard/saw on Fox News (or any other news channel for that matter). You sound like an RSS feed of the Mexican nuews section. Our reality IS bad in many ways, but boy are there many nuances to the whole situation that you are overlooking because they could never fit in you one-dimensinoal mind.

And "Doodahm", I won't argue about the Spaniards being a TERRIBLE example for colonization; But time has past, we Mexicans must stop clinging to past excuses and continue with our modernization. We have achieved great things (compared to where we started, you wouldn't believe our countrie's curruption in the 1970), but it's is nowhere near enought.

doodah  05/13/2011 06:55 PM Report

...and is the root cause of Latin American inferiority.

doodah  05/13/2011 06:52 PM Report

The history of the Spaniards in the Americas is a PATHETIC one; any way you try to twist it.

doodah  05/13/2011 06:42 PM Report

Americans can't control the pathetic history and future of Mexico (average Americans that is). But they could do a whole lot toward cleaning up the CORRUPTION on their side of the border, IF 'Buddy Roemer' decides to run for President. They could vote for him; for a start. ..Or, if they prefer 'their little deal' that they have with the present in favor of the future, the USA will continue down the SocialistElitist path to Hell. That the Lobbyists have set up for the ignorant masses.

Rampant1  05/13/2011 06:10 PM Report

Hey Mickeyvillarreal, don't try to hide the reality of Mexico with your simpleton comments. It is not necessary to LIVE there to know what is happening. How can you explain the terrible lack of justice with the ABC day care center in Chihuahua in 2009? Forty nine innocent kids were burned to death because corruption and lack of security in those centers. The owners never have been punished, perhaps because one of the partners is cousin of Calderon's wife. Do you want me to continue listing some other examples of the Mexican justice, that Calderon praised so much in his self-promotion interview? How about the activist Marisela Escobedo, killed In December 2010 in front of the Government Palace in Chihuahua? In July, Marisela had requested the assistance of Calderon demanding justice for the assassination of her daughter. He was very busy to attended her. Now, her family has been forced to flee Mexico in order to save their lives. The list of injustices and corruption is to big to put it in this blog, and you know it well. I think you are the one missing the mark.

robdverity  05/13/2011 04:41 PM Report

Any Calderon corruption you can bet is largely augmented by US financing and money laundering, and gun sale profiteering.

CR has never once took on big money or financially influential issues / personalities without being extremely deferential (softball queries only).

Mikeyvillarreal  05/13/2011 02:20 PM Report

Hey Rampant1, how can you shell out vague and casual opinions without hard facts to back them up; and then talk about failed nations if you are incredibly far removed from Mexican realities?

Have you BEEN to my country? Have you actually LIVED there for a while? If you're just regurgitating what you hear on Fox News and think that by doing so you are providing an incisive analysis, then you are just an uninformed, rude, average Joe. I thought this website was a gathering point for well-read, nuanced individuals; but I guess sometimes we miss the mark.

What you are doing would be the equivalent of me saying that American's are ignorant imperialist leaches that lack refinement and world sophistication without any hard fact to sustain it. I would be wrong if I said such a thing, but it would be so easy make such statement.

Grow up, read, travel, get hands on first-person perspectives and THEN show up in a web forum under the guise of anonymity and illuminate us all with your perceptiveness.

doodah  05/13/2011 09:24 AM Report

I must admit my ignorance naivete. I was all for NAFTA, in the early 1990s, thinking it would cure a lot of 'inequities' for both USA's working poor and middle-class (the majority) and a whole lot for all Mexicans. But the reality, the CORRUPTION on both sides of the border makes it impossible.

I said it before and I'll say it again, if I were the Supreme Benevolent Dictator of this Grand Land, I'd weed out ALL the CORRUPTION in the Financial, Political, and Government on my side of the border, and then after the USA was cleaned up and RESET. I'd start working on Mexico, by ENFORCING the Laws that are already on the books!

Which wouldn't be such an overwhelming task once the CORRUPTION is dealt with (SEVERELY). But if you don't deal with it and pretend it's not there, then Good Luck Stupid Fuck

Rampant1  05/13/2011 08:42 AM Report

Mr. Rose. I was horrified watching Mr. Calderon’s interview promoting himself as a great president when the reality is just the opposite. You did not confront him with the terrible facts of corruption in his administration at the highest levels, the injustices that prevail in Mexico every day, assassinations of leaders seeking justice - even in front of government offices and all of this with total impunity. With tact and elegance, you could have exposed him, but you just left him recite a list of very questionable achievements. From my point of view and that of many friends, it was a failed interview; in the same way Mexico is becoming a failed nation.

Mikeyvillarreal  05/13/2011 02:11 AM Report

Ok so this is a VERY polarizing issue. I am a Mexican citizen who lives and has lived in Mexico all of his life; and I am aware of the inevitable tensions that will arise out of any border that divides to extremely contrasting nations.

I am also the first to admit they we DO lose many Mexicans to immigration each year, and that these migrants inevitably affect Americans and their way of life (especially in the south).

What I am not so sure of is if the net impact of Mexican-American migration is a negative one. Studies detailing the benefits of Mexican migrant legalization exist in as much quantity as papers outlining America's desperate unemployment and how this is made more severe by illegal aliens.

I don't really know the answer, none of us do; but I'm sure many of you agree with me that every extreme is undesirable; and that some byproducts of this phenomenon (like Minute Men and other hate groups) are completely unacceptable.

Gun smuggling is another SUPREMELY important issue. It is definitely true that the border is permeated on the Mexican side; but these guns would definitely not pass in such quantities if there weren't more than 7,000 gun shops that sell AK-47s on the border.

I mean, common, there are more shops in Texas' border that in all of California. There's gotta be a reason for that.

I live in Monterrey, Mexico, and have witnessed my fair share of gunfights and road blocking. My little brothers had to be refuged in their school's cafeteria for 2 hours because there was a bullet storm taking place a couple miles away. These american-made guns ARE here, and they ARE killing innocent civilians.

Mexican authorities seize them all the time; and they appear to be growing in number as the months go by. Whatever you political viewpoints are, I think some aspects of this problem, like the NRA's existence and modus operandi, are indefensible. Who need an AK-47 in their closet? Really

I'm not trying to poke at your first (or second, can't really remember) amendment; I know how important it was in America’s early days, and how much national pride derives from it nowadays. But these weapons ARE causing a LOT of damage, and it scares the hell out of me.

I'm sure some of you can understand.. right?

I apologize for my grammar; my English tend to get a little rusty after a while.

doodah  05/12/2011 10:33 PM Report

Well, if it's any constellation?. I'll pay you a compliment, you speak the best English I've ever heard a Mexican speak. No accent detected, and your hyperbola is perfect. .. Your Welcome.

Mexicancitizen  05/12/2011 10:19 PM Report

Dear doodah: After reading your previous comments under this video I can only say that you are the best argument agiasnt yourself. What can one say to someone who, instead of giving arguments has recourse to insults and racism. "beaners" "niggers" Who can take you seriously. Shame on you!

doodah  05/12/2011 09:38 PM Report

Sounds like a robdverity (Everything-American-Hating-Liberal- Sean Penn-Idiot type) kind of a guy.

Mexicancitizen  05/12/2011 08:17 PM Report

It’s interesting, I saw the clip that is still available at the BBC web site where anybody can see a fragment from the interview for HARDtalk. A very similar thing happened in both programs. The interviewer then, Stephen Sackur, points at the key issue that people in Mexico just don’t trust Calderon’s government because of the fact that the Mexican population sees the Mexican State as lacking integrity, as being corrupt. What Calderon does then is to dismiss this key issue by putting the blame of the criminality in Mexico and its death toll on the Americans. According to Calderon the most important reason for this particular Mexican Problem is the American hunger for drugs and the provision of weapons coming from the US. Again, honesty is not a quality this Mexican president possesses. That’s why despite Calderon’s efforts to hide his obvious intention of blaming the Americans for his incompetence, the BBC entitled this clip like this: <<Calderon: 'US has responsibility for drug wars'.>> First he denies blaming Americans, but at the end of the clip it becomes clear what Calderon was really thinking about, which makes the BBC title justified. As a Mexican, of course I think it would be desirable if Americans didn’t require so much drug and control the weapons they sell to Mexican cartels. But it really is stupid to point at these factors, instead of facing the responsibility the Mexican government has. This is the kind of president we, Mexicans, have. A president who is not used to being accountable and who very easily points at somebody else when it comes to facing his own failures and responsibility.

Mexicancitizen  05/12/2011 07:11 PM Report

Political analysts in Mexico have pointed at the fact that the current president of Mexico (Mr. Calderon) speaks more openly about really important Mexican issues when interviewed by foreign journalists. One explanation for this is that interviews for Mexican TV must be really boring for him. The two biggest TV companies support him unconditionally and also receive too many benefits from his government (the same as Slim, so being hard-working isn’t the only explanation for his wealth). I cannot say Felipe Calderon is a good president and an honest man. For example, he talks about being open and having actually spoken to critics of his strategy. Well, Charlie Rose mentioned the public demonstration that took place in Mexico City two days before this interview. Right then, the leader of the march, Javier Sicilia, demanded that the highest security officer (Secretario de Seguridad Pública) be fired given his incompetence for the job. Not only that, evidence against this officer has been dismissed and ignored by Calderon and the Mexican Congress with no reason. When asked by Charlie Brown about the problem of corruption in the Mexican government, it was obvious that Calderon was afraid of having to face a difficult question to answer (remember his body language?), but then he was comfortable again since he didn’t really have to answer this very difficult question. He felt it was enough to put the blame on local governments (state governments) as if everything was almost perfect with the federal government in Mexico. He did the same thing several months ago when interviewed for the BBC program Hard Talk, but in that occasion he put the blame on the Americans for the problem of violence and criminality in Mexico. Just yesterday, one of the best journalists that we have in Mexico asked the President and his cabinet to have a public debate with an international expert who has been critical of Calderon’s strategy against crime. So far there has been no answer. So, when Calderon says he is open to criticism and discussion he can’t be honest.

robdverity  05/12/2011 06:13 PM Report

Most of Mexico's probs are its proximity to US, it's corrosive and soulless financial system and red-neck NRA gun hick purveyors. All based on our demand for drugs.

Damned Mexicans. It's all their fault. They should have located elsewhere.

doodah  05/12/2011 06:09 AM Report

'Tom & Jerry' reruns never get boring, especially if you can watch them on the job and get paid for it. And get to wear a uniform even and carry a gun, even better. My Mom is so proud of me.

NeilMacCallister  05/12/2011 04:46 AM Report

Wow, sharks, ..do American police really do that with July 4th celebramts?

Just to make money????????

SharkswithfrikingLazers  05/12/2011 03:01 AM Report

(Wow Charlie you are sure making the rounds with the world leaders. Is it you or Hiliary Clinton who has the better schedule?)

So Mexico has 5.5 % growth and is creating 800K jobs. How many jobs need to be created to curtail the "migration"?

What percentage of Mexico's G.D.P. is money sent back from Mexicans working in America?

Also, why can't Mexico stop the assault rifles from coming across their border? They must know who sells them. In this country we have folks watch fireworks stands and follow vehicles until they cross into city limits. Once across this border they write tickets and confiscate the fireworks.

NeilMacCallister  05/12/2011 01:41 AM Report

Hah! ..President Obama feels so elated for having said "Yes" to taking out that old guy in Pakistan, that he then decides to hit the road with his own 'One-Liner Tour', where he auditions (..with audacity!) for his own spot on Saturday Night Live and Comedy Central with lines like:

"Anybody who wants a secure border with Mexico is like some 11th century Norman who digs moats and fills it up with alligators!"

("Hah, Hah, Hah!!!" ..half the assembled audience guffaws.)

***

In support of President Obama is President of Mexico Felipe Calderon, who tosses in line like:

"I'm a Conservative, ..except that I want you to stop listening to those 'radicals' who want you to balance the American budget; and instead listen to me and concentrate on removing guns from the reach of American citizens, and to end your oil exploration in order to help 'climate change', and please remove your border-guards so that we can all be happy in an 'Ameri-zone' just like they now have in Europe"!!!

("Hah! ..Hah!" snorts one guy who drops his hot-dog.)

***

I tell you people, ..it really IS a "Barnum and Bailey world".

Just like Ella said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1KNv160Lwc

SharkswithfrikingLazers  05/12/2011 12:35 AM Report

By the way, my Congressman says Mexico is in a civil war with so many deaths.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  05/12/2011 12:34 AM Report

President Calderon says the drug cartels have gone "retail" in Mexico. This is because the per capita income has increased to $10K per year. So then if Mexico legalizes drugs doesn't this kill the "retail" sales of the cartels and they go underground again?

Perhaps the 36,000+ deceased Mexicans would then thank him from the grave?

robdverity  05/11/2011 05:45 PM Report

USA drug demand, USA Big banks money laundering and the USA NRA gun sales are the biggest reasons for Mexicos problems (not even hinted at by CR).

From the Observer: "How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico's murderous drug gangsAs the violence spread, billions of dollars of cartel cash began to seep into the global financial system. But a special investigation by the Observer reveals how the increasingly frantic warnings of one London whistleblower were ignored.

On 10 April 2006, a DC-9 jet landed in the port city of Ciudad del Carmen, on the Gulf of Mexico, as the sun was setting. Mexican soldiers, waiting to intercept it, found 128 cases packed with 5.7 tons of cocaine, valued at $100m. But something else – more important and far-reaching – was discovered in the paper trail behind the purchase of the plane by the Sinaloa narco-trafficking cartel.

During a 22-month investigation by agents from the US Drug Enforcement Administration, the Internal Revenue Service and others, it emerged that the cocaine smugglers had bought the plane with money they had laundered through one of the biggest banks in the United States: Wachovia, now part of the giant Wells Fargo.

The authorities uncovered billions of dollars in wire transfers, traveller's cheques and cash shipments through Mexican exchanges into Wachovia accounts. Wachovia was put under immediate investigation for failing to maintain an effective anti-money laundering programme. Of special significance was that the period concerned began in 2004, which coincided with the first escalation of violence along the US-Mexico border that ignited the current drugs war."

mchawla  05/11/2011 05:21 PM Report

Mexico,like Israel is a LEECH stuck to America.We can't afford to pay for the education and welfare of millions of Mexicans who hve entered illegally into USA.The FIRST(Ronald Reagan)Amnesty for Illegal Aliens in 1988 gave citizenship to SIX million illegal aliens-80% were Mexicans.Comprehensive Immigration Reform is a code for the SECOND AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALLIENS under which TWENTY MILION ILLEGAL alliens will get citizenship-again >80% will be Mexicans putting enormous strain on Medicaid,Foodstamps,Social securitySSI.These illegals are doing hard work for little pay so Corporate America loves them::But once they become citizens they will leave these jobs creating the vacuum for more illegal immigration;;This is what happened in 1988 after Congress passed the Simpson-Massouli Bill(the FIRST AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS).

Amend 14th amendment like Dominican Republic has done to deal with Illegal immigration from Haiti.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  05/11/2011 05:05 PM Report

Good question Charlie--so the richest man in the world is from a third world country whose citizens flock to the United States to find work. WOW! Yes, perhaps some anti-trust legislation is in order.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  05/11/2011 04:53 PM Report

Charlie, are you running out of money? This show ended very, very abruptly like your editor was fired during the interview.

Also, the transcripts have disappeared and the video posted does not allow us to flow back and forth anymore.

tabs  05/11/2011 03:56 PM Report

If the current trend of the Mexican economy growing at 5% and the US economy staggering along at sub 2% continues it will not be long before the Mexicans start complaining about American illegal immigration. Who knows it might even become fashionable for Mexicans to have John and Mary doing their domestic chores? Anyway,there is a reason why PIMCO has sold off and shorted US Treasuries and has been buying Canadian and Mexican debt instead. PIMCO's only complaint is that those debt markets are small so there just isn't enough supply to purchase.

With regards to drugs and the border, one is just waiting to hear the Obama administration's response when the day arrives that there is a drug cartel shoot out in an American city where innocent Americans have been killed. One thinks that the Obama administation is betting the Hard 12 at the political crap table on this one.

Climate Change aka Global Warming. One wonders what the more than doubling of the worlds population in the last 50 years has wrought on the planet in the way of environmental degradation? Especially when most everyone aspires to a higher standard of consumption existence. Do the Climate Change hawks think that going Green is going to stop the over fishing of the oceans, land erosion, water pollution, deforestation and climate change that is brought about by an increased population? Do the going Greens think that their standard of living will not suffer from going Green as there still is no viable substitute for fossil fuels in the next 50 to 100 years. The economies of the world will falter and decline if Carbon Taxes are imposed, so one can not just transition themselves into being Green and maintain their current electric supply. Then have the Greens ever thought that deforestation is a primary cause of Climate Change or are they too busy planning on how to spend those tax dollars collected on those Carbon burning energy producers. One wonders what would happen with regards to Climate Change if the world planted a billion or two billion trees, which act as carbon sinks? One thinks that the going Green crowd have only found a new alter of worship to pray at. Or if one really wants to be nasty one can accuse them of being Luddites.

justhefactspls  05/11/2011 02:47 PM Report

President Calderon's optimism is to be admired, however him and his optimism are completely removed from reality.

*War-on-drugs/organized-crime: President Calderon said that 'only 1%' of the death toll were innocent victims. He is wrong: The Administration's official death toll in the failed U.S.imposed "war-on-drugs" is approx. 40,000. However, Human Rights & Civil organizations estimate approx. 50,000 of massacred Mexicans (including women and children) - which of these at least 1/2 are believed to be completely innocent victims; 3/4 of the total victims have never been proved to be linked to any narco/organized crimes.

*NAFTA: President Calderon praised the 'successful' trade agreement. He is wrong: the reality is that NAFTA has devastated the small-businesses and agriculture, and NAFTA is blamed for the increase on forced migration to the U.S.

*U.S arms-traffic: President Calderon is right about this one. The traffic of U.S powerful weapons to be used by the criminals is the biggest problem facing Mexico, and as long as the U.S Government and the for-profit-weapon-industry continue ignoring it and in some cases encouraging* it (*according to current investigations involving the ATF); the blood will continue to run in Mexico and eventually in the U.S.

I call on all U.S citizens to assume our shared responsibility and for the sake of both countries do everything we can to help Mexico asking our Legislators to STOP all arms-traffic into Mexico and to create more effective and human foreign policies.

LatinTrader  05/11/2011 02:36 PM Report

Great interview! Mexico's president has a clear transparent approach to solving our mutual problems dealing with drug trafficers and the viloence that they create and deserves our support.

REMant  05/11/2011 11:08 AM Report

Since Mexico is nearer the US, its position vis-a-vis China undoubtedly will improve as the latter's costs rise. Not to be picky, tho, it doesn't really matter how many new jobs are created, if at the same time the purchasing power of a country's currency is declining, and there's no guarantee that a productivity increase will be forthcoming. Increasing policing doesn't quite comport with the notion of a strong economy either, altho I realize that most of the violence there doesn't really involve the Mexican populace. It is another instance, like the "Arab Spring," of the US exporting its problems to other places, and, like that, will no doubt be used by some in this country to argue that more of the same is liberating. I can't quite decide whether that's because, like good religious ppl, they see good emerging from evil, or simply because anything's good, which increases their income and control.

While I agree with him that legalizing drugs would create a monster, like tobacco, corrupting govt in addition to ppl, and while no one likes to have to draw lines about citizenship after so many have been here so long, immigration reform is simply a euphemism for vote-buying, and reform will increase the need for more, like raising the debt limit. In fact, the Democratic immigration policy is not different from its financial policy, and neither respects the average American, or Mexican, much less the idea of culture or community.

It is because US financial manipulation impoverishes places like Mexico, that, like the Arabs and Europe, their ppl are forced to move and take low-paying jobs servicing the wealthy. This is in fact just like the drug situation, and the cause is just another American vice. Instead of drugs, it is prodigal credit necessarily encouraging those who hold it to support more of the same to keep it from collapsing. Easy money is, indeed, like a drug, and drugs are like easy money. Promotion of either is no way to run anything, and it certainly won't matter if Mexico and the US work together to do it, and I think that applies to NAFTA as well. It is no different from the way we've taken advantage of China, and it could be argued that as China has risen in the American imperial scheme, Mexico has fallen.

BTW, it is likewise not possible for one man to become richer than most other ppl simply because of hard work, or at least it isn't except in the short run. It has to be either a matter of monopolization, and/or credit manipulation.