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Continued discussion on Osama bin Laden's death with David Ignatius of The Washington Post, Steve Coll of The New America Foundation and via Istanbul Dexter Filkins of The New York Times
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writersblock25 12/21/2011 11:10 PM Report
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doodah 05/05/2011 06:23 PM Report
... Let's beat them at their own game; to avenge all the American lives being sacrificed to coddled their sand-nigger egos.
doodah 05/05/2011 06:20 PM Report
@ NeilMacCallister 05/04/2011 05:42 AM
Now yer talkin Neil. Please disregard my previous criticisms.
Ricardo_Amaral 05/04/2011 06:42 PM Report
Believe it or not this is real news from CNBC:
CNBC: Did US Special Forces Just Rescue the Dollar? - May 4, 2011
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Halftime-Did-US-Special-cnbc-273378911.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=7&as set&ccode
I am not making this up, but the CNBC piece said: "History shows us that the country with the strongest military is always the reserve currency," said Cortes, founder of Veracruz. "I think the ability of those heroes, of SEAL Team 6, to project power globally shows us that U.S. military is uncontested in its dominance and I think the currency will re-assert accordingly."
This guy must be kidding.
This thing is becoming “Pathetic”: Bin Laden to the rescue of the US dollar.
The Osama Bin Laden staged death was designed to save the collapse of the US dollar.
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Ricardo_Amaral 05/04/2011 06:17 PM Report
BREAKING NEWS - Currency crash is happening NOW in the US !!! CNBC – May 4, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gNQeDJ9M5c&feature=player_embedded
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Two friends of mine mentioned to me that they had seen the enclosed video, and that Bill Gross, Jim Rogers and I were quoted on this video regarding the US dollar.
Over 500,000 people have seen this video so far, and I am quoted around the minute 38 to 41 into the video presentation about the collapse of the US dollar. This is the first time that I heard of Porter Stansberry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-BIVWlc7A
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Ricardo_Amaral 05/04/2011 06:12 PM Report
Here is a video with the detail information regarding "Osama Bin Laden latest affair"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120885/
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robdverity 05/04/2011 04:39 PM Report
I hope Dexter was tired during this. Even Brian Williams said he's been at it too long (foreign reporting). I agree - enuff jouranlistic adrenaline. Come home Dexter. Get married to a plump loving girl and chill out. You've done your bit.
robdverity 05/04/2011 04:28 PM Report
And Israel's? And India's? And our's? And . . . .?
NeilMacCallister 05/04/2011 05:42 AM Report
I thank President Obama for making the tough, true decisions which brought Osama bin Laden to his end in such a professional manner.
What is next???
As Mr. Coll here reports, Pakistan is still desirous of American and IMF financial support.
The main threat to world safety from Pakistan is its nuclear weapon stockpile.
Perhaps this is the precise moment to demand a healthy new agreement!
Pakistan first dismantles every single nuclear weapon in its possession, ..and THEN Pakistan gets reasonable economic assistance from the United States and the IMF.
I would really love to see President Obama insist on that deal being made!!
robdverity 05/03/2011 08:07 PM Report
Sounds like you're into nightly (prescription) news. Imbibe deeply. The chant - lest you forget - is "USA, USA, USA ...."
doodah 05/03/2011 07:03 PM Report
...Obviously, at a Minimum, the Pakistani army was Supporting him. I wonder if the former President of Pakistan (General Mushroomhead or Musharriff Whatever) knew about this.? I suspect he did, and was LYING his brown little ass off the whole time. Where is he now?
doodah 05/03/2011 07:01 PM Report
Hey robd! The Truth was a SOLID for Osama Bin Dolly Lama :) A SOLID right between the eyes! Damn Straight.
Free at Last! Free at Last! Good God Almighty! Free at Last! ... please forgive me, robd, but I do just feel like dancing a jig. :) lol ...
...is that so wrong?
IRISH 05/03/2011 06:43 PM Report
In response to "tabs" be mindful that to capture and bring OBL out of the theatre of operations in Pakistan, the USA would be presented with a monumental task of what "legal" process to follow recognizing the past experience of the last 9 years of what to do with prisoners at Gitmo and the domestic reactions politically and the ensuing media deluge that would make a circus of the affair. From a legal perspective, the process would be difficult.
In the post by Shalom Freedman, it is quite astute that he mentions the nuclear role Pakistan has in a volatile part of the world and this above all will be most important for the relationship that the USA proceeds with in dealing with
them irregardless of who knew what in Islamabad.
robdverity 05/03/2011 06:35 PM Report
Triumphalism is always tinged with hubris and in this case a bit of blood lust. A natural to our self-anointed exceptionalism. Neither valid nor endearing IMO.
Osama's death reported as from high school graduates:
Leon Panetta thru routine CIA news release of Bin Ladens death, citing Obama's interactions and timed approvals. [No fan fare, no preempting Donald Trump in a fit of pique(?), no making Osama bigger symbolically than his reduced status.]
For the K-12 version, turn on your nightly news.
tabs 05/03/2011 05:05 PM Report
Mr REM one salient point was forgotten. The initial reports stated that the SEALS were there to kill UBL. Later the story was changed to say he was offered surrendering as an option. So it does seem that there is a bit of confusion on the part of the Administration as to the actual sequence of events that transpired. Given the nature of the target one would presume that capture would be preferable almost at any cost as the treasure trove of information about the hidden backers of Al Qaeda could be determined. Also with the array of non lethal yet incapacitating means available it begs credulity that one of those means was not deployed unless the mission was just to kill.
ShalomFreedman 05/03/2011 02:26 PM Report
There is no doubt that the killing of the terrorist who was responsible for the murder of three thousand Americans is a great American success. It is also a great success for President Obama There are many questions which can be raised including why it took so long. It does seem very unlikely that the Pakistani military and intelligence did not know about this. As for the involvement in Afghanistan it is still difficult for me to understand the 'rationale' completely. It seems to me the direct danger to the U.S. is in the Pakistani regime's nuclear weapons and their possible loss to terrorists. I believe too that the killing of Bin Laden is a major blow to Terrorists everywhere. The War against Terror is a drawn - out war which continue in many different places. This is a major victory but Terrorists of various kind have had large successes recently.
I would also remind that Bin Laden did not have a state behind him as Ahmadinejad has. American policy has to this point failed to deal with the Iranian threat.It has allowed Hizbollah to take over Lebanon. It is not doing anything real to help the protestors in Syria. It did not help those in Tehran. The success of the President comes after a number of failures.
One more point. Filkins was a little too kind in describing Arab reaction to Bin Laden's death. Hamas' leader Ismail Haniyeh called Bin Laden a 'sacred Muslim warrior' and deplored the killing. In East Jerusalem Palestinians in the Silwan district protested in support of Bin Laden.
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REMant 05/03/2011 12:30 PM Report
Tho I am sure the admin does not want to produce reproducible evidence of Bin Laden's death, I think it will have to, to stifle theorizing sure to emerge that he is not still alive and spirited off somewhere. I think it at least possible, too, that the Pakistanis had been holding him either with or without US knowledge and complicity. I recall hearing stuff aired about trailing couriers sometime in the past so am not real impressed with that story, either. I doubt the US so feared anyone's wrath or potential repercussions from holding Bin Laden that they would have given up the chance of interrogating him. That's one reason for thinking he might still be alive, but I can see where they would also want to withhold any information about just how he met his death.
The president seemed initially evasive about this, news reports assuming he had been killed in the raid, but the president did not say precisely that, and I believe he also did not say exactly what was subsequently put out as the text of his remarks, it seeming to miss a coda on just this point. I mentioned this in my Wash Post comment late Sunday night, and noticed the print edition story Monday had been changed to say he was killed after a firefight. But then in response to the question Brennan Monday morning said he was killed in the process of the fight, shielded by a wife, but would have been taken alive if possible. They did not shoot the wife and accusations that he had hid behind her are apparently false. Whatever, the extensive preparation doesn't seem to have included any on this part of the operation.
While interesting, none of the above strikes me nearly as objectionable as the way Obama (and later Ms Clinton) presented its significance. His typical bombast, defensive, full of self-references, self-justifications, and self-applause, tho careful not to denigrate Islam (tho correct burial procedure obviously was not followed), or womanhood (tho one was killed), then calling on Americans, and indeed ppl around the world, to back his efforts to Democratize the planet. Many ppl in the Middle East, however, do not consider just some Americans guilty of pushing the Palestinians around, etc, and so are not impressed by the argument that New Yorkers are necessarily innocents, particularly not those working in office towers that symbolized globalization, and for which they, themselves, have shown so little apparent respect. While watching the lugubriously syrupy Diane Sawyer and her smarmy minion yesterday, I hoped we might now see an end to such pilgrimages to "ground zero," but it seems doubtful.
Obama appears to have the idea that innocents and civilians are only those Democrats like himself. Everyone who disagrees is, yes, a hater, and a fascist, tho I found it plain satire a little later in the evening to find the local public broadcasting station putting its foot in it by airing a yet another Nazi program, on Hitler's hang-ups, because that Freudian analysis clearly more nearly fits our president, with his rants about American willpower, than al-Qaeda's or any other Middle or Near Eastern leader.
Surely the admin doesn't expect the conflict in Afghanistan to be ended, nor certainly dislike of America in many other parts of the world vanish, whatever they may have thought of Bin Laden. If anything both are more intense than ever, and likely to get more so. The Wash Post's editorial editor it seems wants to invade every other country in the Middle East we haven't already, even as its reporters pen hymns to peaceful popular revolutions, both ignoring their own polling. I doubt that is the way to promote anything. While attempting to arraign Bin Laden may be justifiable (if not ipso facto just), IMHO linking it to US adventures in places like Libya is not. It's the kind of thing Obama and party do constantly I just cannot stomach.