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matthewjharris  03/28/2011 07:32 AM Report

I enjoyed this show very much. It reminds us how and what leaders do, rather than what our Congress has been doing..or really not doing. While I found each of these Mayors brought interesting comments to the discussion, it's time for some lady Mayors/Govenors in the next round table discussion.

doodah  03/25/2011 07:19 AM Report

Why wasn't 'Suzy Orman' invited to this round table?. The same 'Suzy Orman' dominating the PBS airwaves recently. She would be a Great spokesperson for these practical guys. She could tell their constituents, "be Happy you're POOR, SUCKERS!", "Ah, don't you just Love IT.?!." "Standing in your Poop". "I know EYE DO!" "Becuz I have ALL YOU SUCKERS to PAY FOR IT!". .."OK, shows over, Now all you Sheep SCRAM!" .

JohnGelles  03/25/2011 01:22 AM Report

The Mayors all told the same story:

a. In boom years the cities, or most of them, were able to pay for services people really needed and mostly received; and

b. In a bust, or depression/recession as bad as we have today, the national, state, country and city governments are all short of money enough to run an enviable democratic system.

But that story makes no sense unless it makes a point explaining what to do to prevent such shortage of money from happening -- when money is nothing but producing the things that money must buy AND simultaneously PRODUCING the money to buy it.

You and the Mayors all silently scream at me: YOU CANNOT PRODUCE MONEY. YOU EITHER HAVE IT OR YOUR DON'T. Boom-times are when you have it; bust-times are when you don't.

IMO in due course our generations will be seen as the stupidest who even lived: we were able to produce the information-technology revolution, bio-technology revolution, and the materials-science (nano-technology) revolution. But we could not make sense of money-production to match these technological revolutions.

The Mayors were all smart at politics and friendliness. And they were the stupidest people on money and taxes (that compliment money rather than stealing it) that can be found in office on earth. They were the stupidest, because they were elected in the richest nation on earth but could not get their minds around the fact that our shortage of money is the direct result of our shortage jobs and systems that turn labor and its products into real wealth for all workers and people whom work and automation can enrich if given the chance.

Hang Charlie Rose by his thumbs until he invites to his show a full exploration of functional finance by Mathew Forstater and Randall Wray of the University of Missouri. Kansas City. And not just once. He must invite all voices at the New School, Bard University, and other supporters of full employment budgeting Forstater and Wray suggest.

DeViouSsSs  03/25/2011 12:36 AM Report

Three stars? This was the ONLY example of public political discussion that was perfect. A perfect example of round- table democracy not "dumbocrasy" as we're so used to. Has anyone thought...what happens when this show goes off the air? Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocrasy"?

To me, five stars, as almost always, the Charlie Rose show. A gift for us all.kk

MarieIsenburg  03/23/2011 10:22 PM Report

Good discussion by well-intentioned people.

I submit that income distribution is putting tax collection at risk, much as corporate mergers cost consulting firms their clients in the 1990s. Jobs that pay a living wage and create a tax base should be the norm. The "new normal" for city revenues dovetails with "new normal" standards of living. Instead of trickle down economics, why not stop rewarding oligopolies and encourage lowering the barriers to entry?

The trends are hard to buck, but in the medium and long-term, we will discover that trickle down and CDOs are simply forms of economic osteoporosis.

Thank you.

blank  03/23/2011 09:01 PM Report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xExSdzkZZB0&feature=related

this is what you have to do when people get out of jail they get put on probation and drug tested it's easier not to pass drug tests with weed so people turn to alcohol and cocaine and crystal meth instead

it's a disaster

where i live weed is legal when you're on probation but all other drugs are banned

even if you successfully get someone to quit all drugs they're still a dry drunk (and screwed up big time for life) you have to go off of drugs on a long period of nothing but weed

this is thinking about the long term and the best chance for success for your society

same with welfare can't get it if you drink alcohol if you get caught drinking get cut off from welfare for 6 months

but allow weed (that is the important thing)

these are facts i know what i'm talking about i've witnessed plenty of people die it's not a joke

from the worst ghetto to the best city in the world alcohol is a killer crack is really bad cuz crack heads turn to alcohol when they don't have crack

believe it or mess your city up it doesn't matter to me i don't care about any of these cities it's like whatever

if people completely can't handle weed and it's over for them then maybe keep them off of all drugs and alcohol and they can take prescription meds like risperdol or whatever

also provide them with food at their probation to take home with them and housing services like shelter plus care and counselors and therapists (with a pro weed policy)

all studies show that these types of programs save more money because people don't go back to jail

mmj people build the best cities and unanimously vote for barack obama

try to get people on a program where they eat a small amount of weed once every two days instead of smoking it it's the best psychiatric medication

also promote exercise and healthy semi vegetarian eating habits once the above is established

RegularViewer  03/23/2011 07:16 PM Report

What a great, hopeful discussion about incredibly difficult issues. Well done Mayor Bloomberg on your gun leadership!REMant, I guess that would be the 'right to bear muskets'.

SharkswithfrikingLazers  03/23/2011 03:58 PM Report

Great show Charlie--especially loved this panel.

Ahh the American City, amazing how it changes. I took a history class in college called the American City and it was based upon this http://www.amazon.com/Slum-Ghetto-Immigrants-Reformers-1880-1930/dp/0534147429/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1

This statement grabbed me, "And when you think about it,the private sector shouldn’t have to pay tax dollars to get a much better system to public employees than they get themselves in the private sector."

In the 80's many companies went to 401Ks and abandoned pensions. If public employees want pensions they should pay for them and the money should NOT be borrowed against by the cities. The city can match a percentage but the days of retiring at 50 after 25 years of service and getting half pay are for Greece--not for the world's number one economy. Unless of course, you pay for it yourself and stop sending me a tax bill (or hiding it in a fee or make me pay every time I buy something).

Fran6359  03/23/2011 02:17 PM Report

How does Bill White get invited to this panel? Tom Leppert would have been the appropriate choice, as someone who still actually has some say in what Texas is doing at the city level.

REMant  03/23/2011 01:23 PM Report

A good discussion, however we've heard it all many times before. Thankfully, they did not just sit there and ask for a handout. The Fed'l govt and courts have no more right to issue mandates than they have to make ppl buy health insurance, so I'd fight them. It's a misuse of the 14th Amendment. I listened nevertheless for Keynesian bias, which only turned up in Bloomberg's remarks. While I certainly think education is important, spending more money on it is not a panacea, and WPA hardly ever did anything really worthwhile, or cheaply, nor did that kind of spending help recovery from the Depression.

Of course, I disagree with the idea that we should try to beggar other countries in immigration, which I am really tired of hearing Charlie & Co harp on. It doesn't of course comport with the idea of free trade or what globalization ought to be about. And if you start doing that, you will undoubtedly see the countries, which pay for their students' education, stop sending them here. It makes about as much sense as bombing Arabs. I hope, BTW, I didn't hear anyone still arguing against the 2nd Amendment.

In general, the more the govt takes on itself, the less the public does for itself, and urban politicians do have to realize that despite what they like to think of themselves, their jurisdictions don't attract the best ppl usually, but the worst, and the state or nation does not owe them any special consideration, either way.

We have to come to terms with a few facts. We had decades ago many more public employees than now, and we had better schools, and less crime. My mom tells me that when a murder occurred in DC in the '40s and '50s it made headlines for weeks. That's how rare it was. And SAT scores were higher. There's no doubt that high school grads at least knew how to read, spell and write. Unless you assume the race is devolving, in which case it will not make any difference what we do, or that we are being manipulated by aliens, you have to come to the conclusion that something we, ourselves, have been doing has caused the decline. I've argued repeatedly on this program and elsewhere, that it is the chronic inflation caused by easy money, which, while it has made a few richer, has gutted and disenfranchised the middle class, who in fact were the source of jobs and taxes, not the Bloomberg's, et al, and at the same time created an underclass. That's why cities can't meet their payrolls, and ppl afford healthcare and other services, and why crime, both white collar and violent has increased. We have become wealthier price-wise, on the balance sheet, or in the equity mkts, but much, much poorer in actuality and the statistics prove it. Were it not for the China's and Mexico's we would see it even more. Still we need an economic measure that deflates assets and services (not to mention gas and food) and not just manufactured goods, to bring this home to ppl.