Charlie Rose

TruthSayer  02/15/2011 11:27 PM Report

@ Ricardo_Amaral: You're the kind of useful idiot that would make Stalin roll in his grave.

"The mainstream media wants Americans to think that China is catching up with the United States by next year.

Here is the reality:

Actual Defense Spending by Country in the last 10-year period from 2001 to 2010 was:

China = US$ 600 billion dollars

United States = US$ 5 trillion dollars."

Where'd you get those figures from, Wikipedia? The Chinese Ministry of Defense? Really? Did you miss the memo where this is the same one-party government that also has a Ministry of Propaganda?

Seriously, you sound like a child when you dismiss legitimate American concerns of Chinese military build-up as "boogeyman fearmongering." But hey no worries, it's no surprise China has a severe looming population workforce shortage so hopefully we can ship your infant @ss there.

TruthSayer  02/15/2011 11:22 PM Report

As usual, the mindless cant from the resident Chinese cheerleader REMant:

"Secy Clinton was her usual petulant self. What earthly reason could either of them have to slap a guest in the face? To score points in domestic politics? Maybe to get a jump on Wikileaks?"

Come again? Where was Secretary Clinton being petulant? Sorry didn't see any evidence of her petulance although I'm sure it certainly exists somewhere in the dark recesses of your creative fantasies. I don't know what reason she would have to slap the guy across his face as that would risk causing a major diplomatic incident. Although I'm sure it's got nothing to do with Wikileaks as the whole organizations is founded by Chinese dissidents.

"I expect Americans to blame everything on the Chinese until they, themselves, come to terms not only with the fact that parity is going to be reached, but also welcome it, instead of being hypocritical and condescending."

Yup just what we needed more prostitution. Why would Americans welcome the rise of a country that has ordered hacking operations into its defense networks and infrastructures?

"Too, history shows no free and stable nation that did not develop from an authoritarian regime gradually liberalizing itself as the ppl's ability to govern themselves warranted it."

You need a new history textbook the US (nor any contemporary liberal democratic regimes) was founded as an authoritarian regime but it's still a free and stable nation. And it's counterfactual to claim that stability is a prerequisite for liberty: stability is cherished in North Korea but it's hardly a free society.

Ricardo_Amaral  01/20/2011 04:43 AM Report

Charlie, there is another possibility regarding Secretary Gates comments about indirect Defense Expenditure by China.

Maybe he was implying that China lent trillions of US dollars to the United States - in turn the United States uses that borrowed money for Defense Expenditures to the tune of US$ 600 to US$ 700 billion dollars per year.

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Ricardo_Amaral  01/20/2011 04:35 AM Report

Charlie - the question that you had about Secretary Gates being concerned about the Chinese military build up made me laugh.

The mainstream media in the USA coverage of Secretary Gates trip to China also looks like a joke - unless if you don't have a clue about the spending figures of both countries in the last ten years - regarding Defense expenditures.

The mainstream media wants Americans to think that China is catching up with the United States by next year.

Here is the reality:

Actual Defense Spending by Country in the last 10-year period from 2001 to 2010 was:

China = US$ 600 billion dollars

United States = US$ 5 trillion dollars.

Note: As usual the United States needs a new "boogeyman" to continue wasting borrowed money by the trillions in US Defense Spending.

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SharkswithfrikingLazers  01/20/2011 03:04 AM Report

Wu Jianmin says he fears that the US still thinks it is a "zero sum game" and that America wants to keep China down.

Of course it is a zero sum game--hydrocarbons. Oil is the pie we all must share, and with both countries burning mountains upon mountains of coal, we must also share the environment.

However, we don't want to keep China down. We want you to make the world better while keeping your citizens from starving. We want you to make the planet a better place by doing better than us--so move away from coal and oil and don't create a military that costs more and uses more oil than any other entity in the world.

The United States is the world's biggest economy, three times bigger than China. The United States files more patent applications than any country on Earth, almost 20 times as many as China.

Grow China, Grow but do it with the wisdom of Confucius--not by following our mistakes.

REMant  01/19/2011 02:03 PM Report

Geithner is hysterical. It's like telling the poor countries to stop producing drugs. Aside from that, it's anti-Keynes (not to mention anti-Bernanke), because according to that oracle, you can't have inflation until everyone is fully employed. Secy Clinton was her usual petulant self. What earthly reason could either of them have to slap a guest in the face? To score points in domestic politics? Maybe to get a jump on Wikileaks? I expect Americans to blame everything on the Chinese until they, themselves, come to terms not only with the fact that parity is going to be reached, but also welcome it, instead of being hypocritical and condescending. Too, history shows no free and stable nation that did not develop from an authoritarian regime gradually liberalizing itself as the ppl's ability to govern themselves warranted it.