Charlie Rose

SharkswithfrikingLazers  06/18/2012 03:33 AM Report

Torture? Watch "Taxi to the Dark Side".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_to_the_Dark_Side

Here is one (of many?) innocent guys we tortured to death:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dillawar.jpg

Hebb's sensory deprivation research was funded by and coordinated with the CIA (McCoy, 2007).

Hebb claims he can put you (yes you) into psychosis in just 48 hours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_O._Hebb#Controversial_research

Shroomduke  12/01/2010 04:35 AM Report

I keep hearing that TRUST is key from these conservative hardliners yet they have lied to everyone, decieved the American people about everything from war to their sexual preferences, they undermined democracy, justice, civil rights, freedom, liberty, covered up corruption, graft, crimes, treason, murder and arrogantly attacked stare decisis! Dennis Blair was presented as Admiral yet he is not only retired but insubordinate and disgraced. We are tired of the lies and deception! I am still waiting for Osama Bin ladin, Iraq's WMDs, Secure Borders, consistant enforcement of current laws, the end of systematic discrimination, Torture, Death Squads, Illegal Occupations, Corporate Welfare and War Profiteering! Freedom and Democracy can not survive the cancer of deception from our government!

And thes people have the sociopathic odasity to speak of "TRUST"!

It's time to restore Oversight, Transparency and Accountability!

blusztejn  11/16/2010 03:21 PM Report

Admiral Blair's comments about how radical Isalamic based terrorism will end mirrors Golda Meir's remarks, where she said that when Arab mothers love their children more than they hate Israelis there will be peace in the Holy Land

SharkswithfrikingLazers  11/16/2010 03:15 PM Report

GREAT INTERVIEW!

Two things grabbed me.

" . . . the intelligence budget is now unclassified, $50 billion." So what do we get for the $50 billion? Osama bin Laden? Knowledge about weapons of mass destruction? Knowledge in the 80's that the USSR is collapsing so that we can spend our money on infrastructure instead of the military? (NASA's budget is a fourth of this.)

Then we have this:

CHARLIE ROSE: Torture. Tell me what we know about the effect of torture.

DB: That was a very important question. When I first came in as DNI that question was before us, so I called the experts to come in, got the reports and read them and said, you know, what does, what is the most effective interrogation technique we have when you - when it’s done under duress. Is that -- do you actually get true information better than if you don’t use that?

And the answer, Charlie, is we don’t know.

There is no -- there has not been systematic science, and work on it. And what you have are a bunch of anecdotes. Some people say yes. Some people say -- some people say no. So, I think the question is unanswerable if the techniques that we used back in the wake of 9/11 yielded information that could not have been gotten in another way or not. So .

CHARLIE ROSE: It’s unanswerable.

This sounds like counter-intelligence but not very good counter-intelligence. This CIA report says the Communists can get a false confession then make the subject believe it. The cherry-on-top is that the subject(s) will even develop sympathy for those who have had to imprison them. The report is from 1956: http://americantorture.com/documents/cold_war/01.pdf So we don't know about torture huh.

Perhaps watch "FRONTLINE". The Police Detective, Robert Glenn Ford, seems to have put these Communists to shame and perhaps he can help you learn about torture: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/the-confessions/

doodah  11/16/2010 07:55 AM Report

The irresponsible liberal element (the media, their celebrity and their professors) (the exception, Charlie Rose, of course :) will never believe that anything difficult (not easy) works, until it does work. Unfortunately, their ambivalent intelligence rubs off on public opinion, and is used by the terrorists as another cowardly weapon in their arsenal, and by makes the difficult task even more difficult than otherwise. If fighting terrorism 'fairly' doesn't work, then the ILE (Irresponsible Liberal Element) will be first in line to do it 'unfairly' (nuclear, etc.) just as soon as it encroaches on their 'lifestyle'.

It's true.

doodah  11/16/2010 07:17 AM Report

Leon 'the Panhandler' Pannetta is such an 'extreme politician', if he can be the Director of the CIA.? .ANY CLOWN CAN BE.

a comforting thought, but hey, if the Federal Reserve (i.e. Goldman Sachs) is happy with it?, who am I to complain.?.

REMant  11/15/2010 12:56 PM Report

If, as he said, the more other countries know about each other, the better, we would perhaps be better off with a czar for "Homeland Information." Secure ppl don't need to swagger and bully. Speak softly snd carry a big stick, Teddy said. The first imperative of security is to be strong at home. The first imperative of war, is...well, war. Identifying threats may aid security, but trying to eliminate them likely does not. Not only does there seem to be a considerable blurring of the line between intelligence and policing, the CIA, DIA, NSA, et al and the FBI, defense and war, but we also certainly don't need to have umpteen agencies looking to justify their existence. But it seems we give them so much money, they don't feel they need do even that. And if, as was suggested, it takes a bunch of them to keep each other honest, it is a reasonable conclusion that having none would result in total honesty.