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Lag  11/15/2010 09:10 PM Report

Is he suggesting that we lower corporate taxes to keep the activities of companies like Intel in the U.S.?

doodah  11/11/2010 09:55 AM Report

@ lindarden07,

I can respect your argument to 'try' to keep things classy, but when 'seriously' trying to deal with 'real' problems, discriminating to the point of filtering out the truth only serves to polarize the snobbery and facilitate the societal problems. I think not that is the purpose of free speech.

Please don't confuse the truth with mass media, that would be unfortunate for your intellectual development.

lindarden07  11/11/2010 08:48 AM Report

I believe Charlie and his guests are trying to put up as much an intellectual, informative conversation as possible. Even though some of the comments are biased or fall under the taboo, the host and his guests are trying to do a better job than general mass media we see out there. Maybe that is why we come here to get some information and learn some perspectives. However, some of the comments from the audiences are no better than street talk. I wonder how those can be the targeted audiences of Charlie’s show and why don’t they just stay in the mass media as they used to be.

doodah  11/11/2010 06:35 AM Report

For all I know, "made in china" could still mean, "POISON".?.

We won't REALLY know until it's too late.

doodah  11/11/2010 06:25 AM Report

'American power' cheats like hell. But 'China power' cheats a whole lot MORE (worse). Not only is their system set up to support the exploitation of the weaker by the established power (within their borders), but also in dealing with their Caucasian business dealings, China men tend to be very sneaky little devils (generally speaking).

Case in point, the exporting of POISONOUS TOYS to the American market. Were they trying to cut corners?, or trying to POISON American youth? or both? .. I still haven't gotten a satisfactory answer to that.

Gustav  11/11/2010 05:09 AM Report

doodah,

Well I'm not American as you may remember, hence the ' ' I presume. I however do sleep worse at night when I only seem to be able to hear positivt things about China from people like Friedman. At the same time I hear the decline of America...

If China is 'good' then I would like to live in a 'bad' world run by America. But we can't be selfish, they suffer so that we can can be rich... or rather we are rich because they suffer.

*ramble end.

doodah  11/10/2010 06:19 AM Report

...Misinfomercial

doodah  11/10/2010 06:16 AM Report

Gustav,

There are many 'American' 'investors' that would personally benefit greatly the sooner the decline of America (Americans) to benefit their chosen country of investment (or their investment of country) (could be China, could be a mine in the third world). The sooner everything happens 'their way' the better. Maybe Friedman hob-nobs with those chaps; as does Charlie.

Life is a big infomercial.

Gustav  11/10/2010 04:52 AM Report

I like friedman. But some of his analogies I can't agree with, and makes me doubt some of his other views.

There are cracks everywhere in China, and the bumbs will make your hip break. I've been living in China on and off for nearly 3 years and I need to rest from it a little while. To see its poverty and curruption everywhere, to see old men and women cleaning the streets for 18 hours everyday to make 600 yuan per month, it is hard to take.

I'm hopeful Tom understands this, even though I think he spends most of his time in the richer areas of Beijing, Shanghai, or Hongkong. If he do know about this, then I don't like how he disregard all the suffering that is happening in China.

Hao de kankan as usual Charlie. Mingtian zai jian.

AntonGrambihler  11/10/2010 02:26 AM Report

THOMAS FRIEDMAN: “Well, Charlie, this trip is happening at a moment when China has, over the last six months, rather aggressively --- . . .”

China can surely use its self determined Historical Record to lay claim to whatever land it wants, just like Radical Judaism is doing to the Gentile lands in the Middle East with Money, Arms, and Legal Protection from the United States. Forget International Treaty and International Law, just create the desired Historical Record and take what you want.

The War criminal of the Middle East Gallops into town while President Obama is out of the Country so that he can more easily interface with the War Criminals in the United States and promote War with Iran.

Why is the United States Government using Gentile money to fund Radical Judaism and its killing of Gentiles in the Middle East? How many more wars with the United States fight for Radical Judaism before the people revolt?

Ricardo_Amaral  11/10/2010 02:21 AM Report

A "Reality Check" for the United States

“ Decline of US empire will reshape our world”

By: Leon Gettler

The Sydney Morning Herald – November 10, 2010

Other states are on the rise, and the US has squandered its economic power.

MID-TERM elections in the US have traditionally been a poke in the eye for presidents. Before Obama, it happened to Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Truman. But this time around, it feels different. It is another sign of an empire in decline.

The insurgency against Obama reflects a rage against the erosion of American hegemony, its superpower status slipping away, driven by 9.6 per cent unemployment, people losing homes and no let-up in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

Obama has achieved a lot, such as healthcare reform and staving off a depression. But the slippage continues; he was administering chemotherapy on a dying patient.

The decline of the American empire will be felt around the world, by business and society including Australia. It could take decades, but it will reshape our world. As anthropologist Jared Diamond writes in his book Collapse: How societies choose to fail or succeed (Penguin 2005), many civilisations share a sharp curve of decline. It's a common pattern. "Indeed, a society's demise may begin only a decade or two after it reaches its peak population, wealth and power,'' Diamond writes.

All empires, not matter how powerful, must come to an end. Nothing lasts forever. Economic historian Niall Ferguson associates imperial decline with fiscal crises where governments must service a mountain of public debt.

You can read the entire article at:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/decline-of-the-us-empire-will-reshape-our-world-20101109-17m78.html

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Ricardo_Amaral  11/10/2010 02:19 AM Report

A "Reality Check" for the United States

“China's Dagong Lowers U.S. Credit Rating on Fed Monetary Policy”

By Joshua Fellman and Ye Xie

Bloomberg News - Nov 9, 2010 9:33 PM ET

China’s Dagong Global Credit Rating Co. reduced its credit rating for the U.S. to A+ from AA, citing a deteriorating intent and ability to repay debt obligations after the Federal Reserve announced more monetary easing.

The credit outlook for the U.S. is “negative,” as the Fed’s plan to buy government debt will erode the value of the dollar and “entirely encroaches” on the interests of creditors, analysts at Dagong, one of China’s three largest ratings companies, said in a statement. The U.S. is rated Aaa and AAA by Moody’s Investors Service and Standard Poor’s Corp., the highest credit ratings of the New York-based companies.

The downgrade came before a meeting of leaders of the Group of 20 nations this week in Seoul and as the U.S. steps up pressure for China to let the yuan strengthen to help reduce the U.S. trade deficit. China countered the criticism by saying U.S. economic policies threaten the stability of developing nations.

You can read the entire article at:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-09/china-s-dagong-downgrades-u-s-to-a-on-quantitative-easing-xi nhua-says.html

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REMant  11/09/2010 05:37 PM Report

Friedman's metaphors drive me crazy. I have no idea what he means by "the world is flat." That it is equal? That it is interconnected? That it is developed? Most likely that it is "progressing." Surely none of these things is true. In many ways India has gone backwards since 1900, and so have many other former colonies. There was immense trade prior to WWI. Even prior to WWII. While I am in agreement now with much of his prescription for America, he is still the wild-eyed true believer. Earlier generations called them "improvers" and "projectors." Yesterday I also saw an interview with a Chinese billionaire developer. A woman, who builds high-rises. But she could only be a billionaire, because she managed to pocket a bunch of money she can't possibly deserve, and that's China's problem - it is creating, not only cities, but inequality at a fantastic pace. It is doing it with money either saved (hopefully), or manufactured, but which, in either case, is making each individual poorer, and they are exchanging one way of life for another. Now you can argue that this is necessary for "progress," but if you do, you are subscribing to some sort of Social Darwinism or Machiavellianism, of the type that lies behind Keynes's "animal spirits" metaphor, and I would allege this is what people like Tom mean by such things as confidence, optimism and "progress." It is, however, why the British Empire collapsed, and some would say the American, as well. Maintaining empires costs a lot of money. It's reminiscent of the praise lavished on the Soviets and Fascists in the 1920's and 30's. More importantly it is as much at odds with inspiring productivity, etc, as the conditions they object to. What matters is whether the glitz really makes anyone's life better. and even more importantly, whether it makes people better. While I am no Luddite, I am not sure cell phones necessarily do that. Nor that ppl move to cities in "search of a better life." As for the India trip, while I think it was diplomatic, it came across as a bunch of malarkey. The president even managed to sound condescending.

doodah  11/09/2010 01:00 PM Report

Tom Friedman could use a couple of sock puppets for those over active hands of his, and we could have a happy go lucky puppet show, with all the trimmings. ..But seriously, I can appreciate what he's trying to say.

dtalk  11/09/2010 12:28 PM Report

I enjoyed the interview with Thomas Friedman regarding President Obama's trip to India and the characterizations of China and India vis a vis future projections of their developmental issues. One point I thought I'd mention regarding an aspect of Mr. Friendman's comments regarding India has to do with it's pacifist past and present, because I have been traveling to India for the last seven years and have begun to see a quite different and more complex picture of the country in general regarding this particular issue. There are at least in the state I was in, versions of a sort of youthful corps of peace keepers being trained in some of the arts that can be used for deterring terrorism and for protection of the people in general. Last year was the first time I had seen this in the area where I usually visit and it was presented in a program on an Ashram. It seemed that it was a wake up call to the world that as strongly dedicated to peace as India is and has been and has benefited enormously from the pacifism that gained them their freedom as a nation, they are in the next stage of their development along that path of national freedom. The history of India, if one looks into it even as little as I have, is fraught with example after example of valiant leaders of both genders and heroic contests of great physical as well as spiritual warriors in the name of Sanatana Dharma, righteousness, truth/Truth.

Another point I thought quite interesting and very much what I had noticed on my first trip to India was the issue of infrastructure--one of the first points I saw and from my background in regional planning it just was so obvious to me immediately. In the seven years of my yearly trips there I have noticed an amazing increase in the infrastructural amenities being put in place--from gas stations to 'fly overs,' as over passes are called in India, though the progress has been very slow by our standards. That has been an area I've wondered about, thinking it an incredible opportunity for foreign investment and companies with the equipment that is need to hasten this progress. Whether or not the actual regional and/or local planning has been done in India by the governments I do not know, but that is another area that could be a huge opportunity for the expertise of companies with that experience world wide. However, of course there are the particular issues of planning in a country with a very unique and different set of societal and cultural issues that are extremely important to preserve, in my opinion. I have no doubt that it will happen, the infrastructure will be put in place. My biggest concern has been that it will be done in a way that preserves and honors the important cultural and societal mixture of India that is one of the greatest resources the country has, I believe. I believe it is a struggle right now in India in many ways to do just that, preserve what is unique and essential and move forward with as much speed as possible into the future of an efficient infrastructure to provide that six or eight lane highway and whatever else is necessary to maximize the amazing resources of this incredible country, an amazing room in the household of world countries, as characterized by one of it's incredible saints, Sri Sri Sri Karunamayi.