Charlie Rose

termpapers  11/11/2010 07:48 AM Report

this is really productive in nature and details are good to clear the questions. Thanks for sharing!

robdverity  11/02/2010 04:55 PM Report

not much.

doodah  11/01/2010 09:08 PM Report

The good Professor Ash does make a legitimate point about the predominantly American mangled misuse of the terms 'liberal' and 'conservative'. Thanks, I believe, to the ignorant, way overly-simplified, it's either black or white world of the press media. It is they, who turn Congress into the WW Whatever of professional wrestling (no wonder those neanderthal meatheads (and meatheadette) get into politics)(the big $$ for extreme ignorance is right up their alley) (I don't care if it's a 7', 500lb real giant, if I hit him over the head with a chair, I GUARANTEE he will NOT be getting back up). And that's what the normal public needs to do to the quasi-press-media. Their journalist professors need to start failing them before they enter the workforce and spread their ignorant disease.

For God's sakes, is 'John Boehner' a 'conservative' JUST because he preaches, "no taxes", "no spending", "no regulations".?. And then, he takes big $$ from lobbyists to protect THEM (and ONLY them) from failing, on a tilted (to their favor) playing field (that he helps them create) in a "free" Capitalist? market at the expense of the future of America (turning America more socialist, THROUGH HIS DEEDS!).?. I bid you, that that is NOT a 'conservative'. THAT is a reckless ignorant hypocrite; pure as can be. Yet the talking heads say, he's, "a conservative".

What the hell am I missing here?!

ltw  11/01/2010 08:52 PM Report

All right. I just watched this person explain that according to Europeans, "being a 'Liberal', means you defend the 'Liberty of the individual' and therefore Obama is a 'Liberal'". Mr. Garton Ash seems to understand Liberalism pretty well, but not Obama. Obama is very far from being a Liberal. The man has his own citizens on hit lists. How is that defending "individual liberty"? Maybe that is what people are unable to see about Barack Obama from the "other side of the pond". Of course our own citizens seem not to understand that either. We do need what this man describes as liberalism, but Obama is as much a liberal as Nixon was.

JohnGelles  11/01/2010 06:33 PM Report

Timothy Garton Ash believes, I say, in the Maggie Thatcher dictum "TINA there is no alternative to shop-keeper capitalism today -- the automation revolutions and triumph of fiat money never happened."

For this reason he and Niall Ferguson are on my PTNA list -- pay them no attention.

Ray Kurzweil and Singularity University as a tenant of NASA Ames are dedicated to turning biotech, nano-tech and info-tech into common-sense tech in the foreseeable future. I'm with them.

doodah  11/01/2010 12:51 PM Report

If I started talking with a British accent, perhaps I could espouse intelligent facts of reality (including racial and sexist matters of factoid) and be respected as the genuine 'gentleman' I really am; without the negative 'uncouth' trappings of ignorant name-calling and exaggerated accusations of cartoonish myth by (our?) typical 'American' liberals AND conservatives. Those fools, are the biggest impediments to real knowledge. .. There is a 'reason', we conquered the world. Now, if we could just get it off our shoes.

I would like a Chinese servant.

REMant  11/01/2010 10:41 AM Report

The social democracies get it coming and going, just like the US in the Middle East, because no one likes ppl interfering in their lives. I am not sure I buy the idea that security is required for "nation-building," or the idea that nation-building is needed for security. They both assume a kind of raison d'etat instead of subsidiarity and the development of personal bonds. Bonds are often developed in strife, and when formed they eliminate it. Like letting kids slug it out until they come to a better appreciation of the other.

I don't know how much of a social democrat Obama is, but I am not so sure he will find it that much more difficult (or easy, depending on your POV) to work with the GOP than he has with his own party. I was thinking the other day that the admin might think about doing a citizen swap with France.

There's no shortage of shouting in a lot of other countries' legislatures, too.

I think, as I wrote the other day, that the present is a story Middle Eastern re-emergence, not of China, India, etc., which is old news, and I don't see it, as he does, as akin to the Battle of the Little Big Horn. Plus I am not at all sure China is not following a much more ancient model than Islam.

From this conversation I feel Ash less a British Liberal than a Tory, or even a Labourite, like his professorial namesake Isaiah Berlin, or a neocon like his colleagues at Hoover. It is really funny to see neocons led by the likes of Karl Rove telling us they are old-fashioned Liberals, when they have never been Liberals at all. Some years ago I told a Federalist Society panel of judges, a few of whom have since succeeded to higher office, that from their discussion I'd have to say that while they may have read the Federalist, they certainly hadn't read Madison's Notes of the Convention. And I'd have to say similarly of the neocons, that they have never read Adam Smith.