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Charlie Rose Brain Series Episode Twelve: Creative Brain, a discussion about creativity with artists Richard Serra and Chuck Close, neurologist Oliver Sacks, Ann Temkin, chief curator of painting and sculpture at The Museum of Modern Art and Eric Kandel of Columbia University
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- neurologist
- Sculpture
- learning
- art
- brain
- painting
- science
- creativity
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bekuhl 09/06/2011 07:56 PM Report
I was the construction manager that erected the Serra sculpture that is located in Downtown St. Louis. I worked with Richard very closely and have an autographed copy of one of his many hand drawn sketches, he made during the erection. He was very easy to talk to and between a contractor and a sculptor we much to talk about. He explained how to be a part of the sculpture be getting inside and looking out and looking at it with different skylines. My oldest son told him it looked like a giant arrowhead. This was a great experience for me.
svernon 09/06/2011 07:21 PM Report
What a great show, I have not seen the other 11 episodes but now would like to order copies of the other shows. I have read some of the works by Oliver Sacks, great stuff and personally suffered Traumatic Brain Damage from a Hit and Run Accident about 1 1/2 years ago. Fully recovered both mentally and physically at this time, I was very lucky and as my Dr.'s commented..." Your recovery was nothing less than a medical miracle, thanks to God. I was so knocked out by the quote "Inspiration is for amateurs, the rest of us just show up and do the work." I do not recall who was the author of that quote, but it really grabbed me. The other quote that I loved is 'How do I know what I am thinking, until I read what I wrote." Please let me know if there is a way to purchase the full series. Thank you in advance for your time, SV
Paulc 09/06/2011 10:33 AM Report
I found the conversation interesting, yet needing to be explored further (as mentioned). The dialogue regarding being "inspired" is different from what I have heard from my creative colleagues & peers, yet the point about being self driven is very consistent with dialogue with the same people.
You can have many segment on this subject. What I think could be interesting to explore further is getting different generations of creative thinkers together to see what drives them, their development process for solutions, influence of creative upbringing & environment.
Great episode.. would love to see more
waynevipond 02/04/2011 03:32 PM Report
The story of Moby Dick carried the Creative Brain Development program in another direction. I had to explore my own thought development.
The creative process starts with a thought, as does everyone else's. One connected thought leads to the next until I recognize a new idea. This peaks my interest and I'm off on a new exploration.
As I've gotten older I am able to dwell on these kinds of thoughts for what seems like hours. I consider many options as the idea evolves. Sometimes I come to a lack of concision and have to back up and enter a "what if...". The ability to stay focused or not, is a matter of training or the intense desire to deviate out of fatigue. I paint.
Charlie, can you ask a "creative person" on your next Brain series the thought process that leads to the initial idea he/she was motivated to act on to get a better idea how the brain works?
mota51 01/02/2011 04:48 AM Report
Two things came immediately to mind after listening to the episode. First, a talk by Matt Ridley on TED.com where he claimed that progress (read creativity) occurs on account of ideas having sex; this is social ethos affecting individual styles as well as what professor Kendal says on social contribution. Second, I invite viewers to take a guided tour of gardens created by Robert Irwin at Getty Museum in LA, which takes the viewer from geometry of architecture to poetry of subjective experience.
I think creativity is born out of higer sensitivity coupled with delibarate effort - as in garden at Getty museum, plucking out every 3rd leaf from every tree. What I would like to know from neurology is how some people can keep that sensitivity alive and why it is pruned in as a matter of routine in majority of us? If you can contribute to the answer, please mail me at mukesh_a99@yahoo.com. Thank you
bschratz 11/12/2010 02:02 PM Report
Thanks to Charlie Rose and Eric Kandal fora great series.
I was somewhat disappointed in the 12th episode, but in all fairness, Charlie Roses' comment summed it up, with "we could do 2-3 more episides and no cover all creativity" or something like that. I agree. I DO hope there will be more episodes upcoming. They all were educational and thought provoking. Thanks to all who made them possible.
Bruce (Ret. MD)
marciopaoliello 11/07/2010 01:24 AM Report
Hello Charlie,
Great guests and great ideas got around your round table. However one important point related to the creativity process was missed: Creativity is deeply connected to the human capability of to be able to sense the world which goes around us. In this sense, allow me to introduce the concept of "the felling of the creativity". This idea is quite important and actually is the foundation of all other theories about creativity. To be able to foresee through our fellings new ideas is the first step that leads us toward the process of to create sth new in order to fill our needs. Please, let me be clear, this idea about " the felling of the creativity" doesn't apply to small scale ideas. This ideas that I am releasing goes beyond to the criteria which drive current ideas linked to the creativity. To be able to feel one new idea which wants to emerges, this is the right point. I know that this idea could be rejected at glance for those who have no idea about where the felings have been living on earth. However, for those who are well-known as genius, the released idea has been part of teir daily lives.
ShalomFreedman 11/03/2010 05:43 AM Report
I found this discussion disappointing. I do not know the work of Serra or Close. They are articulate in explaining their own process of work, but I am not sure that there is any great message in this about the subject of Creativity in general. I am generally a great admirer of the work of Oliver Sacks. I ws thus surprised at his absurd statement that the inner transformation of Melville which led to the writing of 'Moby Dick' came solely from his relationship to Hawthorne.
'Creativity's is a vast subject. Taking two practicioners from the visual arts and one museum curator made for a very inadequate panel.
Jean_Purcell 11/01/2010 11:31 AM Report
How do I rate this episode? I would give it 4+ stars at least. Fascinating and though-provoking as usual from Charlie Rose et al. I have read kitsune's comment that appeared before this one (mine), and agree with him on that point: Whatever the facts, then they are what they are; however, speculation is running rampant these days.
We are blessed to have Charlie Rose on air regularly and independently. I guess that my political and religious views do not fit with his at all, but to me that poses no problem. He gives a respectful and thoughtful approach and does not "argue" or push back except to get more meat of thought from guest(s).
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kitsune 10/31/2010 05:36 AM Report
This in in reference to Oliver Sacks' comment about Herman Melville writing "Moby Dick" out of sublimated sexual angst because Nathanial Hawthorne hadn't reciprocated his affections. I mean--I'm no Melvillian scholar, but I also know (by his comment) that Sacks is not, either. If he were, he would not be making a speculation seem like a truth--on national television, no less. Next time, just say, "He may have..."
shrodgers 10/30/2010 10:58 PM Report
The 12th Episode of the Brain Series with Chuck Close, Richard Serra, Oliver Sacks, Ann Temkin, and Eric Kandel was wonderful. As one who is fascinated by the creative process in many fields, I loved the way the guests tackled the communication of creativity by scientists and artists. My artistic friends and relatives are often frustrated that many people cannot understand the way they talk about their work and creative processes. In many fields, creative people probably cannot explain what happens when they make something that is new and exciting after hours, days, months, or years of work. 'Reminds me of the cartoon showing math geniuses working out a complex set of equations on a blackboard, with one saying to the others, "And then a miracle occurs".
The entire Brain Series was terrific! I look forward to many more chapters in the near future. Thank you!
plantwhisperer 10/29/2010 10:38 PM Report
Developmental prosopagnosia (faceblind from birth) is actually rather common. We can't possibly know if Close is "the only" portrait painter with this anomaly. As the brain responds strongly to novelty, it might actually be a gift to a painter of faces.
In the program, Candel and Rose refer to Close's dyslexia, (the inability to read) which he may well have. However, what Close describes is actually dyscalculia, the inability to do math.
Far more interesting, is the combination of prosopagnosia, topographnosia, (no sense of direction), sensory hypersensitivity, creativity, and fixated interests sported by the author of The Oaxca Journal, Oliver Sachs. There's a name for this too.
winter 10/29/2010 07:33 PM Report
You'll never succeed in lobbying me into believing that that rubber "etude to topology" is anything but a slab of rubber bent in the middle. Sure, maybe its a metaphor for
an 11th dimensional manifold where flatlanders have reservations for the Presidential Suite but I'm not buying
any of it. You don't have to be John Wayne swinging open the doors to the saloon to be on bedrock footing in declaring, "thus far and no further" on that hardware store fugitive. I know, its about creativity. I wouldn't advocate its being defined by virtue of the beholders in your rolodex.
SkyLarkJ 10/29/2010 05:45 PM Report
The distinctions between the right brain and left brain hemispheres with respect to creativity was really valuable.
DAVIDOGILVIE 10/29/2010 10:46 AM Report
A slightly disappointing conclusion to an excellent series. The panel should have included a composer (Glass? Reich? Wuorinen?) or musical performer (Kissin? Barenboim? Perahia?). While Close and Serra offered truly stimulating insights, their viewpoints on the creative process are too similar. I would like to know if a composer's brain, or a performer's, somehow functions differently from 'yours or mine'. Quite apart from a performer's prodigious memory - itself a fascinating topic - is the composition and performance of music somehow fundamentally distinct from other mental tasks? Surely, a Mendelssohn's brain is not just 'better than' the average Joe's at music; it seems to operate in an entirely different way. I would liked to have seen this subject explored.
cbarnes 10/29/2010 10:18 AM Report
One of the most engaging discussions about art and creativity I've heard in a long time. I particularly enjoyed the comments made by Serra and Close on the misguided notions about "inspiration" and how each work of art, as it is made, is an unexpected discovery---that is what keeps artists, scientists, and others working.
PeterMelzer 10/29/2010 09:39 AM Report
A great series capped by an utmost insightful conversation last night! Artists and scientists are similar in that they strive to relate observed pieces and grasp the whole. Almost a century ago, Max Wertheimer discovered that the whole is more than the sum of the pieces. Both artists and scientists discover the unprecedented, when they examine the whole after they fitted the pieces together and begin to understand their relationships. In art as well as in science, every implementation is preceded by an image viewed with our mind's eye.
Read more here about Max Wertheimer's discovery:
http://brainmindinst.blogspot.com/2008/06/professor-max-wertheimers-synergy.html