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NeilMacCallister  08/30/2010 11:12 AM Report

CHARLIE ROSE: "What do you think about the mosque" ..being built beside the ashes of the bombed World Trade Center?

HAROLD FORD: "Not a mosque, an Islamic cultural center. I think it should be built right where they’re proposing to build it. We're America, and we are based on the freedom of exercising religion."

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Analysis:

If the building is "Not a mosque", ..then why does Mr. Ford defend it by citing a "Freedom of religion"?

Alternatively, if this building is a "Cultural Center", ..then why doesn't Mr. Ford defend it using a "Right to exercise your culture"?

Also, since there are already many mosques in Manhatten, and everywhere across America, ..why do advocates of this particular mosque try and depict oppositionists as people who are "At war with Islam"? We are not, ..we are only "at war" with persons who strap bombs to their chests and enter marketplaces, wedding parties, bus stops, and schoolyards, ..who place explosives in their shoes and underwear, and then get on public airplanes, ..and who take machine guns onto Texas Army bases to shoot down anyone they can see, ..or place bomb laden automobiles in Times Square.

Where did those hate-lovers receive their inspirations?

Nobody protested Islamic culture when Islam was '1001 Nights', Cat Stevens, and Yusef Lateef. It is not Islam which is feared or resisted, ..it is the constant and continued killings.

Should we invite more "Death to America" educations from Ground Zero, or not?

NeilMacCallister  08/21/2010 12:23 PM Report

...may I add, in trying to keep "society" and "government" distinguished, that I believe that the Declaration of Independence and the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution stand as a major step in "society", and that the Constitution's Articles I-VII and the Amendments then embark out upon the path of "government".

Society was and is: Jefferson-Madison, Lincoln-Douglas, Buckley-Vidal, and Beck-Rose.

Society is the Great Conversation, which leads to a hopefully firm-standing Government.

Charlie Rose presents the modern liberal conversation, as does Glenn Beck present the classical liberal conversation.

Nihilists discount both sides of the conversation, and dislike decisions. Politicians embrace everyone's conversations, and enjoy putting things on paper.

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Talk on!! ..then again:

"Most people do not read the newspaper, they open and step into it like a warm bath." (paraphrasing M. McLuhan)

NeilMacCallister  08/21/2010 04:21 AM Report

John, I believe the "common vision" which we are offered to share is our Declaration of Independence and our U.S. Constitution.

I do not believe there is any "change" we need in those visions. They came to us after much history and great cost. They were entrusted to us, and we are lucky to have them. We need to reflect more on their value to us!

(..In biology, 999 times out of a 1,000, a change in a species' DNA turns out to be harmful to that species.)

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There is quite little the government can do to advance any of us,.. so let's just 'Tend our own gardens' with as much care as we can muster, ..and enjoy saying hello to each other each and every day.

JohnGelles  08/21/2010 02:53 AM Report

Evidently, about himself, Harold Ford believes he is--

..... .... "a charismatic, results-oriented politician with fresh ideas."

Neil MacCallister and all decent people want the best for SOCIETY-- not for the public servants whom WE elect to serve US-- and our society-- NOT THEM and their institutions-- new or ancient.

So if I believe Ford is RESULTS-ORIENTED it means I believe it is society Ford wants to serve NOT leaders who declare they are DECIDERS-- but decide they cannot brig the change we need and so they bring us grief.

American SOCIETY is hurting at the moment. Individuals are hurting-- and only government can do much when an individual is down and out.

My political opponents want government to do nothing BECAUSE they believe whatever it gives to Peter it must have stolen from Paul. That is the impasse we are at. My theory of the game is that government does not need to steal or tax money from Paul. Money comes from SOCIETY's success including all the pluses from machinery and hyper-mass production.

But too many of us allow, that very mass production to bring on DEFLATION AND DEPRESSION because demand cannot keep up.

There we sit, MacCallister and Gelles-- believing in SOCIETY and individual honor and strenuous effort. But do they have a COMMON VISION? and HOW CAN WE FIND OUT?

NeilMacCallister  08/19/2010 06:21 AM Report

JohnGelles? ..You liked his positions, eh? I liked some of his points, too, ..like saying he would like to keep job-killing taxations low. But then he said he was going to raise them up anyway, after a few years. How committed is he? ..and to what?

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He apparently dreams of government-as-society: He says, "Government can solve, inspire, heal, and unite us”.

But please check back to the very first page of Thomas Paine's book 'Common Sense', ..where Paine immediately gets to the need to distinguish "society" from "government", ..and to maintain our growth encouraging "society" elevated over and above our freedom confining "government".

Society is where we find our inspiration to move ourselves forward, ..government is only there to keep us off the rocks on the wayside.

We need to do the work ourselves, voluntarily. A society in which we all engage, freely contribute to, and then pass on to our children.

Government we just pay to keep robbers at bay, and to put out house-fires.

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Government is not the answer to our dreams, ..we need to preserve our society.

Are we doing that? ..Do we even agree what our society is?

robdverity  08/18/2010 04:43 PM Report

Another glib spewer of pol BS with the same substance and prob. the same policies as Bush and Obama. Like O, he's too young. Obama's lack of spine is the lack of age. His desire for reelection has stripped him of any chance of being meaningful - first black or no.

JohnGelles  08/18/2010 04:36 PM Report

IF the President does not lick joblessness NOW, I hope to see him replaced by a smarter leader who can.

My current ideas point to David Petraeus and Harold Ford as personalities with more desire to lead than Barack Obama-- and more ideas for solutions that will work.

I enjoyed the interview-- but I would have liked to have read this about Ford's book, before I heard him speak:

FROM AMAZON.COM--

Product Description

Harold Ford Jr. has long distinguished himself as a charismatic, results-oriented politician with fresh ideas.

His career began at age 26 after he won his father’s Congressional seat, serving his Tennessee district for ten years.

He stepped into the national spotlight with his electric keynote at the 2000 Democratic National Convention, and in 2006 his reputation was further shaped during the closest Senate race in Tennessee’s history, which he lost.

Ford feels passionately that our country’s best days are ahead, and in More Davids Than Goliaths, he presents his mission statement for America.

Reflecting on what he’s learned from his extended political family, the slings and arrows of the campaign trail, and those across our nation who inspire him, More Davids Than Goliaths explains Ford’s conviction,

..... ..... “At its best, leadership in government can solve, inspire, and heal.”

Along the way, Ford reminds us that in America, there are more Davids than Goliaths, more solutions than problems, more that unites us than divides us.

NeilMacCallister  08/18/2010 03:11 PM Report

CHARLIE ROSE: Harold Ford Jr. began his political career in Memphis Tennessee in 1996, at the age of 26, when he succeeded his father in the US House of Representatives. In 2006, he lost a race for the U.S. Senate. Mr. Ford now lives in New York City and is serving as the chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council.

HAROLD FORD: If you get into politics your job is to protect Davids. David always has to be protected.

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Hah!! ..didn't David slay Goliath? ..after REFUSING the need for armor?

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I have to run to a small job now, ..but I'll hurry back to hear who it is that the Democrats will call the "David" (or Davids) of today! ..and who or what it is that they see as our Goliath, or our Leviathan!

REMant  08/18/2010 02:47 PM Report

David, however, was associated with monarchy and was to become the symbol of it, while Goliath was merely a soldier, any battle likely being between a more advanced commercial community and the more primitive nomadic Israeli tribes, the story itself lifted from Greek literature later. This all seems to be designed to further Mr Ford's career, tho I don't think a staccato exhibition sounding like a Depression-era movie helped his cause particularly, esp not the info about his dynastic connections and Wall St interests, tho he obviously thinks so. I didn't appreciate the reiteration of Dem talking points much either. Re the "mosque": Am I wrong in thinking that that icon of democracy, Newsweek, plastered it on its front cover long before the president said anything?