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Discussion about the Afghan War logs with Jane Perlez and Eric Schmitt
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robdverity 07/27/2010 05:27 PM Report
As I have shouted from this roof-top before, public opinion on any of this is totally irrelevant. The only relevant opinions are those of the MI oligarches. When they have bled (literally) all the money and blood they deem probable (and maintain the republic) then and only then will they allow withdrawal - and the multiplied eternal enemies left behind.
REMant 07/27/2010 04:27 PM Report
The Post was all over this today - several stories, op-eds, and an editorial - most of which were aimed at supporting the admin's line that this was all old hat. That may be true, but in fact to many so were the Pentagon Papers, despite what ppl have been saying. I suspect most of them weren't around. Those disclosed that LBJ had been, like FDR, duplicitous about the decision to become involved in a big way, but that had long been suspected. As Ellsberg said yesterday these revelations remove any doubts ppl may have had about the costs and benefits of continuing in Afghanistan. Part of that as Ms Perlez said will probably be due to the sheer volume. But public opinion was not changed by the Pentagon Papers, as much, I think, as the mounting toll of dead and wounded, and that only because we had a draft. Nevertheless, ppl cared almost as little about the sacrifice so many young men were forced to make as they do now that we've taken it off the books, so to speak, by getting rid of conscription, and the cost of the war was being footed by borrowing, just as now, tho there is some noise being reported about that. It is unfortunately not a matter of politics so much as whether it affects Americans personally and I would say it does not. Even if it does change minds I doubt it would be easy to say which party would benefit in Nov. I don't expect either that ppl will find much stuff to be investigated, but Al Jazeera claimed last night that there is evidence of a "Phoenix" program, and that, and other things, will undoubtedly have propaganda value, while of course their "intelligence" ppl will look to see what we knew and when we knew it.