Senator John Kerry

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on Thursday, June 24, 2010 * * * * *

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With increased focus on Afghanistan and the arrival of General Petraeus, we talk to Senator John Kerry, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee

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    1. futurevisionaries  04/22/2011 01:49 PM Report

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    2. robdverity  06/26/2010 02:41 PM Report

      Neil - Here's why - partly. Live vicariously and visualize the raucous frolicking about the Bahamas tax haven, yachting from island to island, visiting CEOs of Northrop-Grumman, Lockheed, Halliburton, Xe (aka Blackwater), and of course ArmorGroup (the deviants). Patriots arise - and get naked. (The State Department has warned the ArmorGroup about security problems for at least two years, yet they renewed their contract as recently as July '09.)

      There are 250 thousand (no bid) contractors fighting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

      Poor old Karzai. We accuse him of corruption (cause as experts we know it when we see it). He’s been taught by the best. Gravy trains abound. No way they’ll be abandoned - for anybody.

      Obama couldn't stop any of this (Iraq or Af-Pak) unless the Military-Industrial Oligarches gave him an all clear. Until then he remains a puppet, and our system an oligarchic plutocracy. Or as Michael Moore calls it a Plutonomy. Democracy on paper only. A lingering illusion.

      Kerry? Agree he sounds reasoned. But he's consumed and thus compromised by the conflicts. Would even he be content with the near relative boredom of peace? Like war reporters: their own adrenaline factors in to their objectivity?

    3. robdverity  06/26/2010 02:13 PM Report

      Neil - yes.

    4. NeilMacCallister  06/25/2010 11:55 PM Report

      Dear Senator Kerry,

      Thank you for taking these minutes to speak.

      I liked these well-measured, seemingly well-reasoned, and charitably information-offering words quite a bit.

      I appreciate your noting for us the possibility that Turkey may be in a social competition with Iran, and that this interaction is being watched by other mid-East nations.

      Maybe Iran is arming not just to confront the United States?

      Please keep your dialogue continuing, and the public aware and informed of such world realities and considerations. We would all like to be well-informed and well-reasoned.

      Thanks again.

    5. NeilMacCallister  06/25/2010 11:02 PM Report

      Rob, ..do you worry that our (all-volunteer) military is being much too "commercialized", "professionalized", and "corporatized"?

      I mean a 4-star on-the-ground leader who is directing and is personally responsible for a 100,000 freedom fighting lives is summarily removed because someone in his command chuckled "bite me" in the company cafeteria?

      Will we have to wear neatly folded scarves in our breast pockets next week? ..and hold the commissary doors open for anyone of higher rank? ..or carrying a briefcase??

      What if I punch-in my daily timecard 5-minutes late someday? ..or get found out that I can't actually type an accurate 120 wpm as I claimed I could on my employment application?

      Will I really be thrown out of the WAR ZONE within which I am trying to make a contribution toward a civil peace???

      ***

      War is Hell.

      There can BE no "civil" war, and sometimes people swear.

      ***

      I'll bet General McChrystal puts his hand over his heart (..or to his cap) EVERY time he hears the National Anthem played.

      I bet he still will.

    6. robdverity  06/25/2010 05:15 PM Report

      In the era of political mkt-place venality, civilian control is not concerned with tactics (Yalu or otherwise), but more strategically - war itself - preferably preemptive (since Vietnam) but deliberatively declared if must.

      The MI oligarchies - led by well positioned contributions - would literally demand O's head on a platter - and get it imo. They're stronger than most realize. They employ important constituents constituents. Look who they are: General Electric, Boeing, Northrup-Grumman, yadda yadda. Here's the driver; contract amounts for 2010:

      January: $8,107,922,646

      February: $11,540,170,777

      March: $13,677,787,653

      April: $20,284,801,491

      May: $25,567,713,470

      About $78 trillion in five months. No way a culture that tolerates financial and human exploitation as easily as the financial fiasco and our extant wars demonstrate, will allow some upstart - president notwithstanding - end a trillions dollar per month gravy train.

      Obama was personally purchased by Robert Rubin and Larry Summers during his campaign, so he knows first hand how easy it is to be turned. He has to know he can not unilaterally do any thing brash - like declaring an Af-Pak victory and "turn-out-the-lights" as he puts it. So he has to "ease" into it. "Begin" to pullout.

      Ahh, but take heart my jingos. The aforementioned MI-pigs-at-the-trough will quietly let O know he's overreaching.

      Long-term McChrystal wins. Patreus, the US and their keepers the (civilian) MI oligarches will lose - as measured by a net gain in enmity and enemies upon our final departure whenever that is. But will profit for a moral hazard.

      VENALITY > STATESMANSHIP!!

    7. robdverity  06/25/2010 01:02 PM Report

      Stanley doubtless sensed a lost cause and orchestrated a (plausible?) way out. He well could be right. I would like to posit that Obama agrees - thus the withdrawal date.

      The US war machine is more formidable than any one person or president. The MI oligarches our mothers and Ike warned us about. In my wishful thinking re Obama's acuity, the withdrawal date is a red herring foil to get around the calls for his impeachment should he do the RIGHT thing and declare an HONORABLE defeat (not an oxymoron), apologize and leave with promises of continuing aid for at least five years more.

      Put that in your flag waving jingoism. Then count the dead under each option. Never mind the budget gains.