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rahnewideas 03/28/2010 12:33 PM Report
Pentalobus, you watch Fox News and/or listen to Rush Limbaugh. You are white and live in a historically "red" state - correct? close?
"...mainstream media, virtually Democrats all..." Your just regurgitating conservative talking points. Fact is Fox News, well know for it's Republican ties, is the number one viewed cable news network. And over 80 percent of all talk radio is admittedly conservative (Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, etc.) - they are the mainstream media!
You've been sold on "right wing" talking points. Diversify your information sources. Try MSNBC, CNN, PBS, Huffington Post, Drudge Report, FactCheck.com, and yes, Fox News and more each day to weigh the information against each other. Double check the facts - where did they get those poll numbers? Who conducted the poll? What was asked of the participants? Etc. Question the information you recieve!
Try this and you will even begin to notice the bias of each news source simply by what stories they choose to cover and/or the wording of the headlines.
As for Charlie Rose interuppting Rove, that's Rose's style of interviewing. By your comments it's easy to conclude that you think Bill Clinton is a liberal - correct? just go to Charlie Rose's interview with Bill Clinton and watch how Rose incessantly interuppts Clinton as well.
Conservatism is a flawed philosophy just as is liberalism. The former is inflexible, stale, and entrenched in "tradition" rather than what works, and the later is high minded, speculative, and entrenched in "theory" rather than waht works.
Open your mind to all points of view. Think critically, explore new ideas. Try something new everyday.
Pentalobus 03/19/2010 01:36 AM Report
Rove ran rings around Charlie Rose because Rove was presenting the facts and Charlie had no rebuttal for them. Rose seemed to be getting frantic toward the end, interrupting Rove, speaking himself for so long and not giving Rove a chance to answer, then demanding an answer from Rove as if he were avoiding answering. Rove patiently said, "I have an answer," and gave it.
The mainstream media, virtually Democrats all, and as Rove put it, Democratic candidates for President, e.g. Kerry, and then Obama, have been able to do the characterizing of the Bush presidency. If you have the bully pulpit of the mainstream media, if they go along with your biased view of things, then I guess you have a monopoly on the news going out. So here with Karl Rove we have a case where the Bush presidency isn't interpreted through that biased filter and everyone is all up in arms. Charlie had every opportunity to rebut anything Rove said, but he didn't because there is no rebuttal.
Norman Podhoretz said Bush had a "magnificent" presidency. He stood for core American values and the fierce defense of this country. Again, he kept us safe.
And, boy, I'd take the word of Karl Rove over David Axelrod's any day of the week! I'm thinking Obama's "hope and change" really meant a takeover of the White House with the use of prevarication and Mafia-style, Chicago thug tactics. It's worse even than I expected.
Realpolitik 03/18/2010 10:06 AM Report
Has anyone noticed that Rove, Rumsfelt, Cheney or Bush will not leave the country? Could war crimes be involved?
GrandmaKathy 03/16/2010 03:59 AM Report
Mr. Rove's is the master ego of all egos I have ever observed. His version of history during the Bush administration is so delusional it is amazing and very frightening. An ego like this, who could not even let Charlie finish a sentence or question, is stunning. An authentic person, confident of their own accomplishments, but with some realistic sense of their own place in the universe along side other human beings, is not afraid to let another speak, not afraid of a perspective other than their own. A frightening man, a dangerous man. I hope it's a very long time before he is given so much time to express his delusions. I can't imagine the kind of major explosion in his life it would take to bring him to some kind of acceptance of reality and the damage he has wrought to this country.
BAKenney 03/16/2010 12:19 AM Report
Karl Rove ran rings around Charlie Rose on today's show. Mr. Rose was no match for Mr. Rove's rope-a-dope moves as truth telling went down for the count.
Journalism needs a rematch. I suggest a roundtable with author Ron Suskind, Col.Larry Wilkerson, Colin Powell's chief of staff at the State Department, and former Senator Bob Graham, D-Florida. Speaking from highly informed and knowledgeable perspectives, these three could give a play-by-play rebuttal to quote-by-quote, replay highlights...A riveting, full hour that unfortunately we will never see.
A Disgruntled Viewer Speaks Out
doodahdaze 03/15/2010 07:04 PM Report
A correction to my last comment - That would not be Leahy, Democrat from Vermont (my apologies to him); But Leach (the name says it all)
doodahdaze 03/15/2010 02:30 PM Report
WHAT fixed it?! You won't be able to say, "deregulation". Less Government!?. Yeah right. ... It was fixed alright, By republicans like gramm and leahy, etc.. Active republicans, like that shelby-shit, better start making apologies or a New Real 'Conservatives For Capitalism' Party will crush them into obsolete oblivion.
doodahdaze 03/15/2010 02:18 PM Report
He is an expert political-mechanic, his accountability and interpretive mastery over the detailed numbers is most impressive. What an invaluable resource for political campaigning, elections, and some agenda-policy initiatives. What will work? (when, why, and how).
But he comes up missing (selectively.?.) in his interpretation of the so-called tea-party issues. So-called 'conservative' voting (going along with the deregulation of banks) (as in getting "the government" out (even in the business of currency allocation) leads to a more utopian society for all.). He apparently doesn't think that'll be a concern for republicans. That the conservative rhetoric will be enough to cloud the simpletons reasoning into getting back on board the republican Plutocracy through socialization (SOCIALISM) of the quasi-middle-class functioning defacto agenda.
So if that's not true (the damage contained), and the economy can only get better. Then who fixed it? ... Think about that, Einsteins
REMant 03/15/2010 01:13 PM Report
I don't believe a word he says about the Iraq invasion, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't agree with the facts as they are known, nor with his reasoning regarding staying in Iraq. I have always been quite sure we would be in Iraq for another generation. Like others in that admin he seems to identify al Qaeda and Taliban as if they were all one great anti-American conspiracy, replacing the Nazis and the Communists. As for the Dems, don't forget that the public and press was overwhelming in favor of the invasion, and in typical American fashion only found it abhorrent when it found so many Americans killed and wounded. They did this in Vietnam as well. I find it peculiar, too, that he seems to want to distance the GOP from the Dems on Iraq, while embracing their handling of Afghanistan, as if they weren't actually the same. As Haass remarked earlier Bush Jr no doubt already knew his father's position, and probably, like Cheney and others, was opposed to it from the end of the First Gulf War. They no doubt found it humiliating. Rove's criticism of the current admin tho I think is close to mark. The Tea Party can probably divided into Reaganesque elements - anti-govt, but still monetarist - vs Libertarian elements also opposed to monetarism. Tho not mentioned here, I think he has been quite right to draw out political divisions, because I don't see how any real progress can be made without making them clear.