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    1. Max83  07/17/2012 05:03 PM Report

      I had a very good feedback on my posts on the comment section of the Jane Harman interview from July 5, 2012 here on the Charlie Rose Show. Here the link to the interview: http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12441 and here my reply back to commenter BENEZRAA:

      Thank you very much for your helpful feedback BENEZRAA. I very much appreciate it and I was able to learn many new things from it.

      I am aware that some of my writings and claims are idealistic and even naive and some of it in regards to the MI6 and false flag terrorist attacks might be exaggerated. I did this on purpose to wake up people up to both, the positive and very negative possibilities that are present at this time in our world and to make people aware of the shadow sides and shadow tactics of politics and the intelligence community which greatly influences policy through their assessments, reports and perspective on events i.e. WMDs and the Iraq Invasion back in 2003.

      Like you said I am in no way defending Iran or any other militant Islamic countries, groups or movements, because they are dangerous and very populist, however I feel we really need an open and honest dialogue in this country about the influence the Israel and the military and intelligence industrial complex lobby i.e. AIPAC and others have in regards to American foreign policy and we need to acknowledge that their interests and policies only profit a very small percentage and group of the American people and mostly otherwise devastate and traumatize large numbers of the populace, both financially and psychologically.

      How I see things is that AIPAC and the military intelligence industrial complex have different goals, but they both agree upon that these goals can be best achieved through another war in the Middle East. The military and intelligence services lobbies fear for their jobs and budgets and the Israel Zionist lobbies fear for their country and religion/ideology/identity to be wiped out and so they are both heavily invested in making these wars happen in my opinion and they use all kinds of methods to achieve this, false flag terror attacks being the most extreme and rare form of that, but I would not discard it and would not put it past some these guys. There are some really whacky and paranoid people in the military and intelligence services that live, love and breath wars, conflict, tension and Death and that have not much interest in preventing wars. On the other hand there are many very noble and very capable people in these institutions like Admiral William J. Fallon for example. It is a really mixed bag. It is my intention to support this sane and benevolent element within the intelligence and military community and weaken and expel the violent, deceptive and rogue element because all they do is cause harm to people and the country as a whole.

      I think what we need to understand is that all this manipulation of public opinion through the media, through biased news stations like FOX News is only possible because like Zbigniew Brzezinski said in his CFR interview, the foreign policy knowledge and education levels of the average American citizen is very much lacking. The solution really is to educate the general public on these topics and then I feel that Americans will become interested in foreign policy and as a result the USA will become a role model again in the world of a super power that stands for justice and peace, both domestically as well as internationally and that only uses her military might as a last resort.

      What is very concerning is that in the last few days many normally neutral news sources have switched around their news coverage towards Iran from only a couple of months ago and are displaying Iran as a major potential threat not just to Israel, but also to the USA. I am talking specifically about Wolf Blitzer on CNN here, whose loyalties have to be questioned and who himself has to question his loyalties, especially because of his past involvement with AIPAC. Wolf Blitzer and Mrs. Harman have to really ask themselves as I said before if they are foremost Americans or Zionists. If they are Zionists first they will go along with the Benjamin Netanyahu and MI6 rhetoric towards Iran as a major threat, or if they are first truly American citizens and even global citizens that are interested in long term global peace and prosperity they will side more with Zbigniew Brzezinski view of things in my opinion because that view is a lot more balanced and just plainly makes a lot more sense. Common, historic and cultural sense .

      Here is a very good example of what I was talking about in regards to Wolf Blitzer and his CNN coverage towards Iran. From The Young Turks from yesterday:

      CNN's Flawed Coverage of Iran Threat

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI6nLD-MkE8&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=7&feature=plcp

      "So back in November, when the Pentagon wanted to spew derision at the boasting of Iranian leaders, CNN.com dutifully quoted experts ridiculing the notion that Iran could get near the U.S. with its Navy. Now that the Pentagon wants to warn of the Grave Iranian threat, CNN hypes the very threats it was mocking just last year. Where the Pentagon goes, CNN follows, like an impossibly loyal dog."

      Read more at: http://www.salon.com/2012/07/16/cnn_on_the_iran_threat/

      If you do not have the time to see the full hour interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski at the CFR BENEZRAA, there is another great 15 minute clip of him on Morning Joe talking about all these topics from September 2011, here the link:

      Ambushing MSNBC, Zbigniew Brzezinski: US Veto of Palestinian State Historic Failure 2011-09-19

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBCr991Xij8

      ''This is the most important political policy statement made by any American in years.

      Brzezinski, a director of the Council on Foreign Relations, is by far, the "brightest bulb" America has.

      This is the only statement of its kind that lays out issues of American and EU security, that speaks honestly about Israel and Palestine and addresses the Pakistani situation.

      He goes two steps further, taking America's political "loonies" as he calls them "to the woodshed" and, avoiding the term "class war," speaks of the real violence of poverty, of the real extremism from above, the top 1% looting the world and what it will cost us all.''

      Thank you very much again for your very helpful feedback BENEZRAA, I am very happy and grateful we are having this conversation, because I feel this kind of dialogue is what America needs to really awaken and really live up its full potential, even if we are not agreeing on all the details of how this can be achieved most practically and realistically.

    2. Max83  07/12/2012 10:36 PM Report

      Today MI6 chief Sir John Sawers made the following very rare public announcement in the Telegraph:

      'We foiled Iranian nuclear weapons bid'

      You can find the complete article here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/9396360/MI6-chief-Sir-John-Sawers-We-foile d-Iranian-nuclear-weapons-bid.html

      Like I said it is very rare for the chief of MI6 to make any public announcements and that really concerns me.

      I trust the CIA, Mossad and BND more than I trust the MI6 and this should say a lot about the MI6.

      I am concerned that when the MI6 is so interested in the USA attacking Iran that they are very desperate and will do anything to achieve this goal which could result in false flag terrorist attacks on US installations world wide, false flag terror attacks on US soil and on US citizens (this could potentially be American Olympic athletes or American spectators at the London Olympics) and/or even false flag terrorist assassinations of US public officials conducted by the MI6 through rouge elements in the CIA or Mossad that will then be blamed on Iran to sway US public opinion towards a military attack on Iran.

      This needs to be avoided at any price in my opinion and I would like to urge all US Homeland Security agencies and US Intelligence agencies to seriously consider these possibilities. This is speculation on my part. But when Intelligence agencies like MI6 start involving themselves in public announcements like this, this needs to be taken very seriously and their intentions have to be questioned and scrutinized.

      The public outcry over this MI6 announcement is very great in England and the public accuses MI6 to want to distract from the recent LIBOR banking scandal in the City of London and I think there could be some truth to that, however the risk of rouge elements within the intelligence agency apparatus plotting false flag terrorist attacks to advance their Geo-political agendas is even higher in my personal opinion.

      Thank you for considering these possibilities. I am usually an optimist and like to inspire people. My intuition told me to share these thoughts here in this case, so these scenarios won't play out in reality and won't weaken the USA even more and won't further destroy its public image and standing around the world if it were manipulated into another foreign war that is not necessary.

      I would like to refer you again to the brilliant Conversation with Zbigniew Brzezinski at the CFR:

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTKOqH0mF9c

      SPEAKER:

      Zbigniew Brzezinski

      PRESIDER:

      Sam Feist

    3. Max83  07/10/2012 02:22 AM Report

      Most excellent interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski at the CFR from March 2012.

      A Conversation with Zbigniew Brzezinski (Video)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTKOqH0mF9c

      A Conversation with Zbigniew Brzezinski

      SPEAKER:

      Zbigniew Brzezinski

      PRESIDER:

      Sam Feist

      I consider Mr. Brzezinski a member of the truly illuminated Elite that originates from Central Continental Europe and that I have talked abut here in the comment section before.

      My biggest concern for the future is not Iran, nuclear weapons, terrorism, economic or other crises, but the ignorance and lack of education and wisdom of people. I am concerned that balanced, experienced and wise voices like Mr. Brzezinski's are literally about to die out and that there is nobody to fill their shoes.

      It is my goal to keep educating myself academically, culturally and spiritually as much as my abilities allow me to and through that hopefully be one of the guiding and balancing voices of my generation.

      Thank you Mr. Brzezinski for sharing your wisdom with us and it is my hope and wish that you will be able to stay on this planet Earth for many more years, because it desperately needs your wisdom and bird's view bigger picture perspective.

    4. Max83  07/08/2012 01:36 AM Report

      The Intelligence World is like a Parallel Universe to me. Listening to them is like watching a Arnold Schwarzenegger Hollywood movie of the early 1990s.

      What if Iran already has the bomb? - Part 1 of 4

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVcsacPREwU&feature=BFa&list=PLA31C7211F517C12F

      "What if Iran already has the bomb?" - Part 2 of 4

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=viqn12O4X-M

      "What If Iran Already Has The Bomb?" Part 3 of 4

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTCvXTlbysA

      "What If Iran Already Has The Bomb?" Part 4 of 4

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFoipFXbuv4

      Former government experts provided a realistic assessment of Iran's nuclear weapons program and warned that the threat deserves urgent attention.

      In this first part (of four parts) Dr. Peter Vincent Pry, president of EMPact America, starts the conference by reading a written statement from Congressman Trent Franks.

      The first speaker is Mr. Reza Kahlili, who is in disguise and uses a voice distorter to protect his identity for security purposes, as he is a former spy, working for the CIA on the inside of Iran's Revolutionary Guards.

      Watch Part 2 of this press conference to hear Dr. Peter Vincent Pry give his own statement, followed by statements from Lt. Col. (retired) Tony Shaffer and Mr. Ken Timmerman.

      Part 3 of this conference includes statements from Mr. Chet Nagle and Mr. Peter Huessy.

      Part 4 closes the conference with Dr. Peter Vincent Pry reading a statement from Mr. Frank Gaffney and then taking questions from those in attendance.

      November 1, 2011, Press Conference and Q&A with Expert Panel

      Location: Capitol Hill, Rayburn House Office Building, Room 2456

    5. winter  06/19/2012 11:38 AM Report

      If you think Mr Market doles out opportunity fairly and equitably as if it were a meritocracy then you're either not paying attention or are part of the problem.

    6. NeilMacCallister  06/10/2012 04:30 AM Report

      Dear Max, ..it has been fun, ..and your story sounds interesting, ..you should write it out sometime.

      But before I ask you to "get to the point" in your piece below, let me just be clear on my own point: I hate the thuggery and intellectual dishonesty of "socialism".

      No one can take from others, to give to themselves (..THAT is ALL that "Socialism" is!!) without the use of a whip, an iron pipe, or a bullet.

      I ask you, ..if I no longer wanted to rifle canon bores for Mr. Krupp, and told him to "Keep your stinkin' paycheck!!" Wouldn't I still be a free man the next day?

      But if I said that to a Jamestown slavemaster, or to a Munich Nazi, or to a current American Government Bureaucrat, ..would I still remain free the next day?

      I hate socialism. I want the freedom to keep what I earn, ..even if that is a hunger from a morning of sleeping too late.

      Obama is giving NOTHING to the poor. He, and all Socialists, only grab power to grab that so-called "public money", ..for themselves.

      Now, ..what was YOUR point??? ..something about castles????

    7. Max83  06/09/2012 06:45 PM Report

      Hi again Neil,

      thank you for your feedback on the Bilderbergers. You make good points and I do not exactly know myself how extensive the potential conspiracy could be and if it is successful or not. My main intention is to educate people, just like Charlie does on his show, and to share my knowledge and experiences. I grew up in a part of Germany that is the home to the Krupp and Thyssen families and their castles and I have seen with my own eyes convoys of black Mercedes S-Class limousines out of nowhere in the middle of the day go to meetings at these castles that I only grew up a mile away from. In Germany it is only allowed to tint the back windows of your car and so I was able to get a good view of the older and middle aged Caucasian males that were chauffeured to the castle. Also during the 1994 EU summit in Essen Francois Mitterrand stayed at the castle. The castle is called Schloss Landsberg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Landsberg_%28Ratingen%29 and it houses the Thyssen family mausoleum. Webster Tarpley is absolutely correct that the Bilderberg Meeting is just a distribution channel for decisions made on higher and even more secretive levels. You are correct Neil the meals, fancy hotels and the prestige around these meetings is what attracts the participants to join and it might seem all innocent, but there is an underlying influence that is directed at the participants, but you are correct most of them probably do not become part of the agenda and it really is just a waste of time focusing on it.

      I appreciate your interest in this material though and I appreciate it that you are open minded to the ideas even if you do not agree with them.

      That is why I like the discussions here because they are mostly civilized hahahaha and open-minded and we can all learn from each other.

      Here is a very nice youtube video of Schloss Landsberg:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWKe2ejAViY

      You might have heard of Berthold Beitz before, he is one of the ''Righteous Among The Nations Of The World'' http://www.shoah.dk/Beitz/Default.htm and he is a very high level member of the Olympians, who are really above the Bilderbergers, so these people do a lot of good even if some people think they conspire against them. They truly believe that a New World Order is the way to go and the only salvation for the planet and so they just follow that belief and that agenda. It makes sense to me where they are coming from and why they do what they do.

      Here is Mr.Beitz wikipedia page in German, he is almost 100 years old and considered a ''grey eminence'' in Germany:

      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berthold_Beitz

      Enjoy your weekend.

      Max

    8. NeilMacCallister  06/09/2012 04:46 PM Report

      Well, fellows, I don't believe in conspiracies. I don't think we are smart or organized enough to pull off even the most simple of plots.

      There are no "secrets" -- everybody wants to live, everybody needs money to eat, and everybody hopes to eat better than the next guy.

      That last part is why "conspiracies" fail: Intricate plans and complex webs of networks will never out-survive our always basic desire to "Take the Money and Run" (see Woody Allen). If some secret scalawag had set demolition charges in the basement of Twin Towers before the plane crashes, they would have since written 4 books about it already -- and appeared on Charlie Rose, Oprah, and 60 Minutes.

      The "Bilderbergs" would not even show up if it were not for the fancy food and the dark-windowed limousine rides. Hah! ..even Timothy Geithner, behind in his taxes, loves to hang out there!!!

      Charlie Rose and Company are still fighting against "the 3/5's clause outrage" as though the Civil War has never ended. Those college minds have to have grand issues to ponder, undlessly.

      Neither Barack Obama, nor William Ayers or Eric Holder, are "secret" Marxists, ..they are all blatantly proud of their positions!! ..They are just too unsure of the natural outcomes to put their positions up for argument against the facts of history.

      And nobody needs to "steal" our votes, ..we screw those up enough ourselves.

      Somehow, life still goes on!

    9. Max83  06/08/2012 09:33 PM Report

      My other favourite historian besides Niall Ferguson is Webster Griffin Tarpley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Tarpley

      His website is: http://tarpley.net/

      He did a great radio show 2 days ago talking about the 2012 Bilderberg Meeting in Chantilly, and how Romney is the pick of the Bilderbergers aka Olympians aka Atlantisits how he refers to them and that Obama is damaged goods and won't win the next election.

      The title of the show is: Bilderberg Networks Speed Carterization of Obama: Steve Rattner, Roger Altman, Bill Clinton, Daniel Klaidman, Becker and Shane of New York Times Undermine Tenant of White House

      Here the link to the radio link: http://tarpley.net/2012/06/07/bilderberg-networks-speed-carterization-of-obama/

      The End Game is definitely approaching.

    10. SharkswithfrikingLazers  06/08/2012 02:49 AM Report

      "As fears of Israel launching an airstrike against Iranian facilities increased, the administration opted to make Israel part of the Olympic Games program. The Israelis worked with the National Security Agency to design Stuxnet, which was introduced into the Natanz facility via USB drives by spies and unwitting employees."

      http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/management/240001297?cid=nl_IW_daily_2012-06-01_html&elq =f933dbb87e464e248952b1a523ab9672

      Niall, are you ignoring this in your literal version of "killer apps"?

    11. SharkswithfrikingLazers  06/08/2012 02:46 AM Report

      Niall, approval more important than selling your book?

      An intellectual with an ego problem, is that even possible?

    12. Max83  06/07/2012 09:09 PM Report

      The neglected risks of global politics -- dealing with the nuclear threat

      Here the youtube video link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=49mSCquuFG8

      Panel with

      Topic Leader:

      John K. Defterios (US)

      Anchor of Global Exchange & Editor of Emerging Markets, CNN International

      Speakers:

      Yukiya Amano (JP)

      Director General, International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

      Prof. Pervez A. Hoodbhoy (PK)

      Visiting Professor, LUMS School of Science & Engineering

      Wolfgang Ischinger (DE)

      Ambassador & Chairman, Munich Security Conference

      The notion of risk has undergone a remarkable, some would even say dramatic, narrowing in its use in recent years. Whenever there is talk of risk, the roots of the financial and economic crisis spring to mind, as well as the many risks that have since become apparent within the global financial system and the sovereign debt crisis. Only rarely, the public's attention shifts to other topics, as could be seen in the way the events in the Arab world have mesmerised the public and politicians alike. Apart from this, many other important issues do not seem to strike too many people's minds.

      This is staggering, given the current geopolitical and security challenges at hand. Neglecting these challenges while focusing mainly on the economy shows a very limited understanding of what globalisation is about. In the Middle East, the tensions are growing over Iran's nuclear intentions and a pre-emptive strike against the mullah regime is no longer inconceivable. With Syria descending in civil war and Iraq wobbling after America's departure, the region is further destabilised. Saving the Euro will little help the Europeans, if at the same time the world economy is in danger of being cut off of its oil and gas lifeline in the Gulf. Albeit not important economically, Afghanistan is an unsolved hotspot too, affecting the whole region, especially its neighbouring countries Pakistan and India -- both still deeply entrenched in a potentially catastrophic cold war. Further East, China is making no bones about its ambitions in the Pacific and South-East Asia, clashing with America's interests time and time again.

      Are all these risks forgotten? Probably not. They have strong advocates among international organisations and experts around the world. But they seem to be neglected and are not on the foremost agenda of most political decision makers -- regardless of their dangerous and deadly potential. The panel highlights the key geopolitical and security issues at stake and explores their importance and prerequisite for a working global economic system. Special attention is given to the nuclear threat in the Middle East and South Asian region, thus focusing on questions like non-proliferation, balance of power and the immediate tensions that have grown over Iran's and other nations' nuclear programmes.

    13. Max83  06/06/2012 05:11 PM Report

      Hello Neil,

      I do not know exactly where you are coming from on this. I am not for or against a war. I just know that a war always has consequences and I just wanted to inform people that people in very high places like Mr. Kissinger and Mr. Ferguson are highly invested into a potential war between Israel and Iran. Invested highly financially and politically, but even more so ideologically. They believe that Order can only be established out of Chaos and so they are creating controlled chaos scenarios, like a potential Israeli and Iranian war and they are willing to risk human casualties because they believe that in the long run more good people can be saved by it even if it means to sacrifice some soldiers and even nation states in the short term. As I said I am not for or against a war. I am just making people aware what is planned so they can prepare for this scenario both mentally and emotionally and also to make people aware that there are forces and interests in this world that think and feel very differently from us, the normal average citizens and they only see us as pawns in a bigger game of Geo-political chess. They feel they are helping humanity and the planet even if some or many people die in the the process of the realization of a New World Order.

      However even these power players and brokers are affected by universal laws such as cause and effect and that is why I am writing here to make these people in high places, if they should read this comment section, aware that they will have to pay their spiritual dues too and that their actions will have spiritual consequences for them and that they should think and pray very deeply before they make a move and start a war.

      I do not know the higher order and plan for planet earth and humanity and maybe it will require an Israeli attack on Iran to wake people up and heal the planet, but I personally feel, like yourself probably Neil, that there are more peaceful and non-military means to create Oder and Peace out of the Chaos we are in at the moment.

      We will see what happens next and I hope this explanation gives you an idea where I am coming from.

      My mission is to inform those people that are humble enough to listen. Help them to connect the dots and make them aware that our life as human beings does not just have material, economic and political dimensions, but most importantly a spiritual dimension that needs to be understood because it supersedes, affects and underlies all the other dimensions of our existence.

      If you would like to know how Mr. Kissinger and his friends think and strategize I would like to recommend to you the five part youtube video series titled ''Machiavelli.The Prince. 1/5'' Here the link to the the first youtube video of that series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IGBKu6qM7Y

      Wishing you the very the best Neil.

    14. NeilMacCallister  06/06/2012 04:50 AM Report

      Wow, Max! ..where do you get that "September Surprise" stuff??? ..from Charlie Rose???

      Open your eyes, ..and read how Khamenei has already announced he wants to nuke every living Israeli.

      War is not a "surprise". It should be more than just a "campaign tool" for aspiring heads of State -- Some people are going to DIE soon!!

      Please note that Charlie Rose here voices the whole situation under the one 'life-or-death' situation of a re-election of Barack Obama: "What is Obama's greatest obstacle??"

      Why does Charlie so cover for our incompetent President????

    15. Max83  06/05/2012 08:00 PM Report

      Wow, these are big words, but I think they are true and I feel Mr. Ferguson knows what he is talking about. In some circles Israel attacking Iran is called ''The September Surprise'' and Mr. Ferguson is conforming this.

      Germany delivering new atomic missile-capable sub-marines to Israel is another indication of the high probability of an Israeli attack on Iran. Here an article from Der Spiegel on that: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/israel-deploys-nuclear-weapons-on-german-built-submarines-a -836784.html

      The warning Günter Grass made in his poem ''What Must Be Said'' a couple of months ago are very real now and cannot just be dismissed as conspiracy theory or paranoia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Must_Be_Said

      Here another very good lecture by Niall Ferguson at the St. Gallen Symposium from two years ago on on the economic crises and how sees it.

      Prof. Niall Ferguson on entrepreneurial freedom in the new global financial system

      Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qw42-Adjxg

      The St.Gallen Symposium is like a Bilderberg Meeting for young people hahahahahaha. It is less private and is used to recruit new talent for the future Leadership of a New World Order.

      Here the wikipedia page:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Gallen_Symposium