A conversation with former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

with Tony Blair
in Current Affairs
on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 * * * * *

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    1. sock puppet  10/01/2008 03:45 PM Report

      Marilyn - you're a mess. Would you marry me?

    2. sonia  09/28/2008 02:09 PM Report

      Tony Blair is a true Statesman, I think he is the only true Statesman on the current political scene. He is humble, thoughtful, clever and clearly understands the importance of being practical. I feel sure history will treat him kindly. I do hope that CR will have him back. It would be really fun to have a round table with Tony Blair, Bill Clinton,Bush and maybe a couple of other European ex-leaders to compare and contrast their experiences. What a wonderful conversation that could be

    3. Chris Baker  09/25/2008 10:05 PM Report

      This was one of Charlie's most interesting foreign policy interviews, although I found Blair's style of speaking rather monotonous. Blair said at the end of the interview that after years in office he thought it was very important to stay focused on what he thought was the right course of action, rather than paying a lot of attention to the polls etc. He also said politics was a lot more difficult than many people realized.

    4. Marilyn  09/25/2008 03:38 PM Report

      Here's a balanced view for y'all. How about we go back to building pyramids. Back breaking jobs, to be sure, but they wouldn't be outsourced. We could all live purposeful lives again, knowing that in the end we could entomb current politicians who wipe the tear in their eyes as they speak of their good works and how much they care about us, along with CEO's and their kin. I so want them to be comfy cozy in the afterlife.

    5. sock puppet  09/25/2008 02:34 PM Report

      TABS - Would you really want comments void of opinion? What fun would that be? If you want Pablum go to the major networks, for off the wall opinions come here. The RANGE is the spice, at times down right scary but instructive. Discounting my own bias, I wouldn't get to castigate Citigroup as I am wont to do, for the scumbags they are. Balancing scumbags with civility is too delicate for me, like gee I wish Citigroup et al would conduct their businesses with more integrity. Too high brow for me. Scumbags feels more accurate as well as honest re my feelings. So attention bloggers, write it like you feel it, not like you think someone might think you should write it. Give em hell. Save your pc for your in-laws.

    6. jamie  09/25/2008 01:22 PM Report

      the stronger the faith, the closer the devil

    7. TABS  09/25/2008 11:22 AM Report

      Unfortunately about 90% of the opinions on this Board are discounted and round filed as they are ideologically driven based upon some emotional need other than the relevant circumstances.-------------------------To be credible one has to offer a balanced view, seeing that nothing is either all bad or all good. One might say that one has to see what truly are the inescapable facts. However no opinion is without bias of some sort, however the trick is to be able to discern ones own bias and discount that tendency as best as one can in presenting ones argument.

    8. dafydd  09/25/2008 11:11 AM Report

      I noticed that Tony commented on religions place within the new world order... and that it may have a place as long as it doesn't get in the way. Although it's difficult as to how this question will eventually work itself out, the governments of this world seem poised to soon take action to 'homogenize' the world's religions in the hope that yet another great idea will result in elusive world peace.

      The fact that many of these religions have either basic Christian beliefs that are at odds with each other, or that they are non-Christian altogether and share nearly no basic tenents seems of no importance to world governments these days.As you watch religion 'intermingle' itself and become more and more a 'social' club with stacks of musical equipment, sharing ministers and babysitting services... and almost no attention of its inherents to devoting their daily lives based on the example of their individual deities, this idea of a homogenous world religion takes on a more plausable face every year.

      The idea almost resembles the homogenation of Christendom when, With Constantine’s support, Christendom’s religion became the official State religion of Rome. Elaine Pagels, a professor of religion, explains: “Christian bishops, once targets for arrest, torture, and execution, now received tax exemptions, gifts from the imperial treasury, prestige, and even influence at court; their churches gained new wealth, power, and prominence.” They had become friends of the emperor, friends of the Roman world.

      The only problem is of course, is that the Christians who were still following the tenents of Christ stood out in marked contrast with these 'new' Christians and were reduced to hiding in caves because they resisted homogenization of beliefs.

      If there are any of these types of believers left in the world when homogenization is forced again... what will happen to them this time? What will it mean for them and true belief based on the bible? What will it mean in the context of the bible's timeline of prophecy for the world and the universe? What is gained, and what is lost when everyone is forced to believe the same?

    9. Lance Dugger  09/25/2008 10:20 AM Report

      Some deluded viewer offered that John McCains actions surrounding the proposed bail out were not politics but the actions of a patriot. Bull!! It's time the public and the press quit giving this man a free ride on his every stupid action and utterance. His actions yesterday were an obvious attempt to both position himself as the non political cantidate, while making a blatently politically calculated and false statement to the press, and to pause Obama's recent ascent in the ratings and the debate for which he is unprepared without appearing to do so. His whole recent campaign since the conventions has consisted of diverting the public's attention away from his obvious weaknesses and onto unimportant issues using gimmickry. The mainstream media has aided his every diversion by happily focusing on these ratings bonanzas. Let us now see if our myopic media can discern the real intent of McCain/Palin to distract voters from what should prove to be his campaign's fatal flaw--the very real problems confronting this nation and their lack of truthful responses.

    10. sock puppet  09/25/2008 09:56 AM Report

      Douglas said, "Iraq of course also becoming Blair's, not just Bush's, enduring legacy." Tell me again. That's good for Tony? And religion?

    11. Tony  09/25/2008 03:05 AM Report

      Let us help you define faith Mr. Blair. It is overconfidence without evidence. It is overzealous ignorance with arrogance.

    12. Douglass Montrose-Graem  09/25/2008 01:45 AM Report

      What a celestial evening with two leaders tonight! Thank you, Charlie.

      As author of "DELIGHT! - I delight to do the will of God" [2007\ I found Blair's comments on faith especially fascinating. Here is a statesman steeped in spirituality - his faith makes him great and strong.

      Iraq of course also becoming Blair's, not just Bush's, enduring legacy.

      { As an aside it appears neither of you were aware of the epoch-making Iraqi election deal announced to-day!\

    13. mayo  09/25/2008 01:35 AM Report

      FOR CHARLIE

      This was the best show i have ever seen,the georgia president assumed the situation like it is,He just did not say why they invaded,was it oil,land,power,or to exercise power.

      there is no tell weather russia with all it's money,they could,or are the most richest country in the face of the earth,try to bring a world order.

      Tony.

      I love that tony blair is religiously involved in the world problems but for tony I would like to say that,scriptures never lied and what ever is going to happen it is written so it shall be done(revelations)and not in a catholic way.

      study martin luther

      and john huss.

      kjv

    14. sock puppet  09/25/2008 12:55 AM Report

      Re their discussion of Iraq - the success of the surge will not be truly tested until we leave. Now or now + n, where n = 1, 10, 100 or 1000 yrs.

    15. RE Mant  09/25/2008 12:02 AM Report

      Last nite it was reported that Congressional Republicans were not going to vote for this plan and were waiting for McCain's opinion, and since the thing is now in his hands, he has done what he had to. It's not politics, but country. Aside from giving us the Greenspan version of it all, the president, I'm afraid, has cried wolf too often. Besides that, he seems to be unaware that the govt doesn't have 700 billion of taxpayers' dollars at the moment. IMHO the reason the mkts have been fairly steady the last couple days is because it appears the admin plan will not pass, not vice-versa. Any plan must be money-supply neutral to not lower the value of the dollar and cause prices to rise, which will certainly happen if we just manufacture it. We will have the support of other nations not only because much of this debt is owned by them and they have a lot of dollars, but also because they know that the strength of the US is important to their security and stability. But we must act responsibly, and tho that appears in large measure to be the opinion of the public, I still expect the financial hardship entailed will be a hard sell, like German beer to a Coors Lite drinker. A business with a risky business plan has to accept a higher rate of interest, and so must a nation with a lot of debts. What I gather from the Democrats is that they are in favor of the bail-out as long as they get something from it. That is not unexpected. Bread and circuses has been the rule for a long time.

      Mr. Blair doesn't seem to know his country's history. Adam Smith detailed in the last chapter of Wealth of Nations how increasing govt debts were consolidated, eventually forced the payment of interest only, yet encouraged more wars, more govt borrowing, and enticement to investment, diverting capital from more productive uses, which he thought made bankruptcy inevitable. His friend, philosopher David Hume enumerated many instances where beginning the use of paper based on public debt, raised prices, concentrated mkts and removed specie from circulation. The growing power of the public creditors, he claimed not only threatened national sovereignty, but weakened the aristocracy, thus encouraging tyranny and corruption, and that the ppl would be forced to support it because of their indebtedness: "I must confess, that there is a strange supineness, from long custom, creeped into all ranks of men, with regard to public debts, not unlike what divines so vehemently complain of with regard to their religious doctrines. We all own, that the most sanguine imagination cannot hope, either that this or any future ministry will be possessed of such rigid and steady frugality, as to make a considerable progress in the payment of our debts; or that the situation of foreign affairs will, for any long time, allow them leisure and tranquillity for such an undertaking...As it would have required but a moderate share of prudence, when we first began this practice of mortgaging, to have foretold, from the nature of men and of ministers, that things would necessarily be carried to the length we see; so now, that they have at last happily reached it, it may not be difficult to guess at the consequences. It must, indeed, be one of these two events; either the nation must destroy public credit, or public credit will destroy the nation. It is impossible that they can both subsist, after the manner they have been hitherto managed, in this, as well as in some other countries." But, "so great dupes are the generality of mankind, that, notwithstanding such a violent shock to public credit, as a voluntary bankruptcy in England would occasion, it would not probably be long ere credit would again revive in as flourishing a condition as before...Mankind are, in all ages, caught by the same baits: The same tricks, played over and over again, still trepan [i.e., trap\ them. The heights of popularity and patriotism are still the beaten road to power and tyranny; flattery to treachery; standing armies to arbitrary government; and the glory of God to the temporal interest of the clergy. The fear of an everlasting destruction of credit, allowing it to be an evil, is a needless bugbear...The reasoning of Tacitus, as it is eternally true, is very applicable to our present case: 'But the mob attended in delight on the great indulgences that he [emperor Vitellius\ bestowed; the most foolish citizens bought them, while the wise regarded as worthless privileges which could neither be granted nor accepted if the state was to stand.' The public is a debtor, whom no man can oblige to pay. The only check which the creditors have upon her, is the interest of preserving credit;..." Precisely the argument the monetarists are now making.

      A nice big war would do a lot for the climate; not much for globalization. BTW, why do I have the idea that when the Brits talk about globalization, they still mean empire? ...Or the security concerns of the Palestinians, given the video on BBC tonight.

    16. t.d.  09/24/2008 06:30 PM Report

      PLEASE DEVOTE THE TOP TEN OR FIFTEEN MINUTES OF THE C.R. SHOW TO THE 2008 ELECTION OF EVERY SHOW NOW TIL NOVEMBER 4TH...TOO MUCH AT STAKE NOT TO.

    17. Iqbal Faizer  09/23/2008 07:35 PM Report

      For goodness sake, Charlie, please grill him on misleading the free world in service of Bush's non-fact-based mission in Iraq. Demand a truthful answer to the fact the Blair government allowed the US to use faulty intelligence on Saddam's supposed attempt to acquire WMD from Africa and on the supposed connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda.

      Also, I'd ask you to use your knowledge from discussions with moderate Arab leaders to expose the fact that the more reasonable and nationalist terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah cannot fairly be categorized with the colonial Al Qaeda-type groups either in their objectives, means, or moral authority.

      Please, Charlie, your legacy is at stake. Don't give a free ride to yet another member involved in the criminal conspiracy in taking the US and UK to war in Iraq, which worsened the threat of Al Qaeda-type groups to the entire world. Make him ask tough questions of himself -- moral questions. Get beneath the superficial rhetoric that rationalizes state coercion and brutality, but calls all resistance to state oppression "evil".