Charlie Rose

jarts  09/03/2008 09:41 PM Report

Charlie is in St. Paul. You'll notice Cokie and others are talking to Charlie while looking into the camera. Same thing was done last week while Charlie was in Denver.

Carol J  09/03/2008 07:14 PM Report

Hey Charlie Rose, you were in Denver for all 4 nights of the Democratic Convention. Why are you in New York for the Republican Convention, does this mean you have a problem??????????????

sock puppet  09/03/2008 06:46 PM Report

Of Ghengis Khan!

aTypicalProgressive  09/03/2008 06:45 PM Report

I still remember seeing Cokie Roberts break out in laughter when she covered Katrina. Her laughter was so offensive and out of place, I lambasted ABC in writing and stopped watching programs with Roberts.<br>To Cokie Roberts, New Orleans is the French Quarter, Canal Street, and the stretch of I-610 and I-10 that takes her to the airport.<br>Nothing else exists for Cokie. Yet that crux of New Orleans is exactly the areas Roberts doesn't acknowledge.<br>Cokie Roberts still makes me wonder what possessed ABC to hire her. I wish Charlie Rose would never again have her on his show.

jaden  09/03/2008 06:45 PM Report

I have to admit I had to look up ipse dixit. It fits to the "t".

Preston  09/03/2008 06:34 PM Report

jaden, what sock puppet is trying to say, is he hates to admit it, but, Preston is right.

sock puppet  09/03/2008 05:58 PM Report

Jaden -Preston epitomises ipse dixit (crossword had to use).

sock puppet  09/03/2008 05:42 PM Report

It's patently unfair the accusations frivously bandied about that the Republicans thrive (solely?) on the exploitation of human frailty, buy legislation to that end, skim the many for the benefit of the few, decry anyone that objects as being wellfare liberals wanting free rides to posterity (or survival?), willing to foment preemptive wars solely for fun and profit, promote more drilling rather than better alternatives (also for selected fun and profit), condone the venality (that they thrive on) via their proxy lobbyists, decry, buy and avoid their fair share of taxes - despite their benefitting the most, whine and whimper when the lowly upstarts want some breathing room, and callously espouse the glories of individualism and capitalism (well socialism's ok when losses need to be distributed) free of regulation (lest it hamper exploitation). I repeat it's not fair that they all have a I've-got-mine-where's-yours? effete snobbery and entitlement aura about them. Not all ---- (perhaps).

Preston  09/03/2008 05:05 PM Report

jaden, every single word of your comment is wrong. Putin will eat Obama for lunch. And Biden is just one of those dumb dogs that just barks and barks just for the sake of barking.

jaden  09/03/2008 04:18 PM Report

Mr or Ms Cobb, where do you get the idea that Gov Palin can work in a bipartisan manner. She is Cheney in high heals. It's her way or the highway. Yes, she is a reformer, but she is single minded. Yes, she is refreshing, unless you have to do business with her. If John McCain wasn't such a hawk militarily, I wouldn't be so frightened by Palin's hawkishness. The two of them together can do more harm than Bush/Cheney have done. Dealing with Russia now is going to take a great deal of diplomacy. McCain/Palin don't have that in them. And what you said about Clinton having more experience and still losing to Obama: that is my point exactly. Obama has more leadership skill. He can work with people to get things done. And Biden can help immensely in calming the Russia situation.

The Taxciter  09/03/2008 02:06 PM Report

Transcript of this video between 40:50 and 44:00 where Charlie asks perhaps THE most important question:

Charlie Rose:

What is it you need to be president? What is it you ought to look for if you want somebody to be there?

Doris Kearns Goodwin:

Oh, I think that's the most important question we should actually be asking ourselves in the course of these next couple months. What are the leadership qualities that we want to see in the person who's going to become president?

One of them I think is their ability earlier on to triumph over adversity, to come through a trial by fire, because they're going to get it in the presidency.

Probably nothing prepares them for the weight of making decisions about whether or not young people are going to live or die going into a battlefront, and what that means to a country, to bring it into war.

But you want to look about whether or not this person in their past has been able, when they've made mistakes, to grow, to learn, to acknowledge those errors and go forward.

You want to see whether somebody can communicate a sense of conviction to the country.

These are things we know. You want to know whether they have a sense of humor when they need it, whether they can relax and replenish their energies.

If you look at our great presidents, they provide clues, I think.

And I sometimes think the media get so off base by the things that we cover, when if we look at the past, of Obama, now, we look at the past of McCain, we can see these things. They've already come from somewhere, all the candidates did in the primary campaign, and if we just delve into their biographies, not just as narratives, but as analysis for the kind of leadership strengths or weaknesses - they've all got to have a quality of strength or weakness.

Do they have a sense of being able to create loyalty in an inner circle?

Are they able to bring in people who question their assumptions and argue with them?

And yet can they then bring consensus to an end and make a decision when they have to?

What happens if they have to fire somebody?

All of these things I think are the things. That's what I really wish we could think about a lot more.

CR:

But none of those things have necessarily to do with how many years you spend in any particular office, or what your resume looks like, does it?

DKG:

Exactly right. They've all had different life experiences, and it's got much to do with temperament, it has to do with, I mean, certainly, the more political experience you have some of the times, but you can have had more experience than anybody when he got in there and he turned out to be terrible.

So it's life experience, it's temperament and it's character that I think determines the kind of president your're going to be.

CR:

But it's an easy shot for me to say what many people say, that if I'm being operated on for brain surgery I want the very best brain surgeon I can find, and I want somebody that's done it before at least once or twice.

sock puppet  09/03/2008 06:49 AM Report

Kathy Mae covered the bases. Home values tell a lot more about real VALUES and character than any political public postering adorned with fraud. Here's two conversations - one real, one imagined. Real first.

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Real: "Hi Daddy!" from Obama's little girl to his enlarged TV image. Translation (for the mentally challenged): spontaneous real love achieved only thru real quality family time together.

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Imagined: (Shouting) "WHAT!? HAVEN'T YOU HEARD OF CONDOMS OR THE PILL? HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO MY CAREER? WELL, DON'T THINK YOU'RE GETTING OFF WITH AN ABORTION. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CHILD AND MARRY THAT OPPORTUNISTIC PHILANDERER WHETHER YOU TRULY LOVE HIM OR NOT. IT MAY RUIN THREE LIVES BUT IT DAMN SURE ISN'T GOING TO RUIN A FOURTH, MINE! WHAT KIND OF TRAILER-TRASH MORALS WILL THIS PROJECT AROUND THE WORLD? WHY CAN'T YOU BE MORE LIKE YOUR BROTHER WHO HAS VOLUNTEERED TO MAKE ME PROUD BY OFFERING TO MURDER THOSE NONWHITE OIL PROFITEERING IRAQI SCUMBAGS. I'M TRYING TO PEDDLE AK'S FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. JUST THINK OF THE SCIM! AND YOUR LITTLE BACK-ALLEY ANTICS DAMN WELL BETTER NOT RUIN IT ALL FOR ME!"

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Tune in next week - if not sooner.

Cobb  09/03/2008 03:18 AM Report

It's interesting that everybody here opposed to Palin has said nothing about the things that she actually does bring to the table, which is a reform-minded attitude, a plan for energy security and a demonstrated ability and willingness to work in a bi-partisan manner putting the job of serving the people above the sort of careerist inside the beltway multi-zillion dollar media buying campaign business of politics as usual.

Everybody knows that Clinton has loads more experience than Obama and the Democrats voted for Obama. So please stop pretending that everything hinges on experience.

Palin is a breath of fresh air. And from this Conservative, I find it not at all surprising that the people who cast their ballot for the man who questions America first, find all sorts of faults with the VP candidate who is more like ordinary Americans than any in our lifetime.

jaden   09/03/2008 12:48 AM Report

Thank you, Eureka. I've been wondering how people can dismiss Obama's obvious executive ability exhibited by the fabulously smooth run of his campaign. Hillary's campaign did her in. If she'd had half the executive ability of Obama, she'd be the candidate. So, how come people aren't giving him the credit he deserves. I'd venture to say that his executive experience for the last 18+ months is at least as much as Palin's running Alaska. I'm not even going to count Wasilla; Bozo could run Wasilla. (I have spent time in Alaska; Wasilla, specifically.) Democrats would be wise to use Obama's executive experience as compared to Palin's and to detail exactly what she has had to do in Alaska. (I grant she is a reformer and fighter.) And what about Obama's good judgement in choosing a VP who is arguably the person most knowledgable about foreign affairs, and whose first instinct isn't going to put us in danger by dropping a bomb on countries he has problems with.

LC  09/03/2008 12:44 AM Report

There's a black man running for president--and many of us in the white majority are patting ourselves on the back, calling it a mark of our nation's progressiveness, the culmination of the fight for civil rights in 60s America. Yet the treatment of the Katrina issue on Charlie Rose's program was a harsh reality check. Shame on you , Charlie, for inviting seven white people to discuss a natural disaster that affected whites and blacks very differently--and for tolerating not to say encouraging Cokie Roberts in presenting her incredibly biased version of three years since Katrina. I normally enjoy your program very much, but in this instance, I listened in horror as Cokie complimented herself and her fellow New Orleanians for showing so much toughness and resiliency in rebuilding their city in just three years. Never mind the hundreds of thousands of black people who are still displaced and have no means of coming back, no homes to return to in the Lower Ninth Ward. Apartheid is apparently still alive and well in this country, despite civil rights, despite Obama's historic campaign. Apparently, all of this struggle has made hardly a dent in white people's perceptions of what it means to be black in this country. And Charlie Rose, who could do something to expose this situation and turn it around, shows a breathtaking lack of perspective and concern. I was, still am, aghast.

Joe Malone  09/02/2008 11:47 PM Report

As a Republican, all I saw was a lily white

group in denial about the fiasco of the last 8 years. Trying to put a happy face and wrapping a flag around a group of God, Guns and Greed

koolaid drinkers led by Neocon, Jinsa/Aipac,

Kstreet insiders like Lieberman and Thompson,is not going to play to Real Americans

who are tired of this crowd. Whining because the media is poking holes in this facade. This is about continuing the Military Industrial

Complex and keeping their corporate masters

fat and happy. What about the concerns of regular Americans. \WHATEVER/ Charlie, More truth to power questions and Thanks. PBS is blessed to have you and Moyers, Great bookends.

Preston  09/02/2008 10:59 PM Report

Oh look! Who's that? Joe Lieberman?. Isn't he a Democrat? Didn't he run against George W. Bush?. The Democrats main argument, is, McCain is the same as George W. Bush.?. So why is Joe Lieberman there supporting McCain, if the Democrats say McCain is the same as W. Bush, when in fact, Lieberman ran AGAINST Bush. Maybe Lieberman just hasn't seen Obama's commercials yet and as soon as he does he'll surely recognize the truth.

Preston  09/02/2008 10:40 PM Report

Nothing like a Fred Thompson to put things in their proper perspective. John McCain DESERVES to be the President of these United States of America. PERIOD!

Jackson Wallace  09/02/2008 09:29 PM Report

To all repub morons, your candidate did this because he was desperate. For every right-wing christian nut vote he gets with Mrs hockey puck, he'll lose two on the left. The numbers aren't on your side. Oh yeah, she's already lied to cover up her daughter having a baby. She's already a liar, and look for her to get us into a nuclear war if she becomes president, which I dont think can happen. If it does, she will either be run over by the Dem congress, or be forced to compromise, so dream on, right-wing losers.

Jackson  09/02/2008 07:44 PM Report

I was puzzled by Mr. Halperin's dispeptic appearance last night. Normally, he's cool, engaging and thoughtful.

Could it be that, having annointed Obama as the Chosen One 7 times on its cover, Time Magazine is none to pleased that this election may turn into a horse race?

Just because Sarah Palin is not from the Beltway and vetted by Time,WP, NYT, et al, does not mean she should be pilloried. Of course as a governor, she doesn't have much international experience--unless you count shopping in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada which I'll bet she's done. And the gas pipeline deal with the Canadian firm....

What is driving the national press nuts is that, with one decision, McCain has shifted the paradigm of the election: he's back to being the change agent; the Repub base is fired up and ready to vote; states the Dems thought were in play may not be with a hockey/snowmachining/gun totin' Repub VP.

Some questions are legit of any candidate but Sarah Barracuda may be quite a match for the press pirahnas! Mr. Halperin's veiled threat that there would be a lot coming out was downright nasty. Either do good, factual journalism or stick to personal opinion.

I can't wait to see tonight's show.

For the record, I'm voting Democratic so my comments are not because I'm a Repub.

Ralph  09/02/2008 02:49 PM Report

It's all "fascinating." Meanwhile, Gustav wanders off, and the press with it, and the real New Orleans that apparently Cokie Robers has not actually visited still has tens of thousands of unbuilt housing units, levees that are years away from being secure, and still-eroding wetlands that a hundred years ago made the coastal area much more resilient to storms.

A senior McCain adviser is reported to have said today that "this election is not about issues" (Washpost, I think). Boy is he sadly correct!!!

sock puppet  09/02/2008 01:40 PM Report

And try to imagine if you can the pompous hypocricy if the shoe were on the other (Obama's) foot. ----- "Those damn blacks are just a bunch fornicating animals." Yadda, yadda.

Robert Bruce Martin  09/02/2008 11:02 AM Report

Mark Halperin in his agitated comment that the press felt that the Republicans were hiding something about their VP choice Palin, and his insistence on repeating the statement again in his closing comment, revealed something he didn't intend to reveal.

Mr. Halperin and the press are going after Gov. Palin, in a tizzy that their media-messiah Sen. Obama, may be losing in his campaign for the Presidency.

So, let his comments be a warning to us all that the Obama-intoxicated media have their claws out and will attempt to destroy Gov. Palin. But then, that should be no surprise.

The obvious bias in the media is a taboo topic on Charlie Rose's show. To discuss it would have upset his guests no end, and Charlie wasn't about to do that.

Robert

jaleh  09/02/2008 10:04 AM Report

Only in Republican America would a black man with a law degree from Harvard, 12 years in politics, four years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and manager of one of the most impressively flawless and forward thinking presidential campaigns ever not be ready for the presidency while a white female evangelical with 19 months in national politics and a bachelors in journalism is considered "ready on day one.

Preston  09/02/2008 09:26 AM Report

Well said RE Mant and TABS52. Domestically she is exactly what the USA NEEDS. And I believe she has the good sense to transfer that capacity towards the foreign situations if need be... I would like to know who McCain will choose for Secretary of State... I would also like to know if Biden still intends to divide Iraq into 3 or 4 different countries as he has so proudly professed. And if he and Obama still think the removal of Saddam Hussain has had and will be a "destabilizing" effect on the world economic situation... I would also like to know when the media will start asking these kind of real questions. Too bad there's only one Charlie Rose... And every time I see Tom Brokaw, and even worse, hear his annoying cartoonish voice, I miss Tim Russert even more.

Amy  09/02/2008 06:12 AM Report

Having lived next to Chinatown for 9 years, I probably have more "foreign policy experience", than Sarah Palin does. ...... Does it make sense that some aging insomniac knows more about China, than a prospective VP of the United States?

TABS  09/02/2008 05:38 AM Report

Oliver Obama And The Round Head Revolution......................................................................................Back in the 17Th century Oliver Cromwell instituted a fundamentalist Protestant revolution in England. It was at that time that Charles 1st lost his head and the Cavaliers either left England or shared his fate. That is exactly what what Obama represents a REVOLUTION of Round Heads. A secular revolution of the common folk and living green, where anyone who represents the wealthier class of conspicuous consumption will be classified as a Cavalier. Before one knows it, everybody will be known by the salutation of "Citizen."

Amy  09/02/2008 04:13 AM Report

One has to wonder what Valdimir Putin thinks of all this. What with Cindy McCain's claim that Sarah Palin, "does too" have foreign policy experience, living right next door to Russia and all, he must be wondering if he should cut back on the vodka. ...... Some of the panelists might want to think along those lines, as well.

TABS52  09/02/2008 03:48 AM Report

Palin counters the notion that McCain is an old man with old ideas. She steals the younger voters away from Obama, she is a Washington DC outsider, she has executive experience, she is able to go against her own party if she sees that it is in the nations best interests(anti corruption history). She helps shore up the base with her values and injects the party with the vitality of a younger person. Her conservative down to earth values do appeal to those Regan Dems out in WVA, KY, PA OH etc. The Blue collar Dem's will give her a look because she is a gun totin mama with an NRA card. It is all about having your feet planted squarely on the ground and not preachin some big high falutin intellectual gibberish that is Obama's want. So Palin is truly an agent of change in that she is a fresh face with new solutions to problems. Who did Obama pick but tired old Joe Biden.

TABS  09/02/2008 03:27 AM Report

To he11 with McCain now that the idea that the Presidency is a full time job has sunk into GW Bush's think head. Lets give GW another 8 years, after all he allready has 8 years of on the job training. Lets see what he can do if he is really trying.

amilius  09/02/2008 03:21 AM Report

Some nights Charlie's show is more of a crock than others. It may never be this much of a crock of merde again.

Nicole  09/02/2008 03:19 AM Report

Charlie, your objectivity is quickly coming into question. With friends like Al and Doris consistently praising Obama and especially Mr. Hunt's crude description of Sarah Palin - Caribou killing, creation lovin, etc., you might as well call your show The Obama Hour. Tell Al to put a sock in his misogynist mouth. He didn't like Hillary, he doesn't like Palin. He has a problem with a woman being on any ticket!!!

kathy mae  09/02/2008 02:51 AM Report

Thank you Charlie for another good discussion and show. Your show is America at its best, and I love it and learn a lot from it, thanks.

My comment on the "Palin daughter" scandal. I am an Obama supporter but I do not agree with Obama that this issue is off limits. I think it show Sarah Palins unfit and unreasonable values, or life vision, whatever you want to call it these days....that has ended up making bad policy in Alaska and will end up making bad National Policy. Policy that I do not want to live through more of. This subject, along with her total absence of foreign policy knowledge, more than any other needs much debate.

We cannot allow the same calamitous trickle down economics (that funds itself mighty dams (like the bridge to nowhere) high up on the income scale. John McCain has shown himself to obviously be more hawkish and an impulsive man, an I for one don't want him anywhere near the red phone at 3:00a.m. He scares me more than the Bush administration has.

And now with this seemingly impulsive pic for VP, it is scary to me, a woman and a baby boomer, to think about all the progress women have made in the last 30 years going backwards. And what about the breakthroughs in science that has stalled in the Bush administration? We could have done and been so much more, what is going to happen to the liberty of women and science if the evangelicals get control again over the white house, and in an even more profound way in Sarah Palin? Sarah Palin's daughters scandal represents the hypocrisies of the far right, makes it clear for the whole nation to see. It is inescapable and needs to be debated.

Evangelicals have scared me politically since Bush first ran in 2000, when I saw how his campaign was pandering, using their language, to get their votes. I realized then the power the born again evangelicals had gained politically, and they were being wooed by Bush. They liked the attention and responded by becoming an even more tight and powerful coalition; and they are not about to give up that power without a fight. We have become a Theocracy not a Democracy, and McCain's pick for VP just says more of the same, there is nothing maverick about it. He did shake it up all right though, he has motivated the liberals to fight back. We cannot let far right religious radicals make our national policy. We need to vote these people out of office and send a clear message, that we are not a Theocracy and we will not stand for it anymore. It is time we took back our Democracy once and for all, with a clear and decisive vote in November. Let's all work hard to get out the vote. It is time to heal and go forward into the future, not stay the course of failed policy and dire threats of going backwards on so many levels, as McCain and Palin would stumblingly lead us into.

Kathy Mae

sock puppet  09/02/2008 01:41 AM Report

Palin's self-promoting AK's energy. See CR Amory Lovins interview 7/15/08. One sharp cookie. Points out AK pipeline is a security nightmare and a big America kick-me sign.

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http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/07/15/2/a-conversation-with-amory-lovins

Rob D  09/02/2008 12:52 AM Report

I can't stand most of the people on this panel (conservative hack Rollins, plagiarist and power knob polisher Goodwin,Cokie who thinks Hawaii is too "exotic" for `Mericans, Halperin who would support Pol Pot if he had the poll numbers and Charlie himself who said that the handling of Gustav "redeemed" the President for his near criminal neglect of NO 3 years ago..jesus!) and so it was a chore to watch all the way through.

Still, Al Hunt and Halperin had something of value to add and they were all striving to say nice things about her. This is a disaster pick and my feeling is she isn't going to be the running mate anyway as she seems to have left a lot of corruption behind in Alaska, the home of Ted Stevens and other oddball right wing cranks of note. She was for that bridge to nowhere project for starters and that will be easily to establish. Family values people always have the pregnant 17 year old in the background..or an extra wide stance in the men's room..lol..She is far right and will appeal to the basest of the base in the Rep. party but she will alienate as many people who are independant.

If Obama is white, this election is already over. The Rep. have bankrupted the country in every conceivable way. INCLUDING budget wise. I hope the Bubba's of the USA don't allow McCain to become President but at least it would be hilarious to watch this fumbling boob (who makes Reagan look sharp eyed by comparison) try and deal with a massive Dem majority in both the House and the Senate. It isn't going to happen of course but the possibilities for Jon Stewart to ply his trade would be endless fun.

Eureka  09/02/2008 12:34 AM Report

People seem to dismiss the idea that running an 18 month campaign (one that beat the inevitable Hillary, too) with hundreds of staffers, multiple fiefdoms, and extrordinarily diverse influences and forces upon him, that Barack Obama has somehow not had "executive experience."

Running for President in this the 21st century is akin to running a fortun 100 company. And having vanquished the top brand in Democratic politics, I think Obama is running his Fortune 100 company danr well.

RE Mant  09/02/2008 12:21 AM Report

To hear some ppl talk you'd think she was The Queeen of the Night!. Impulsive though it may have been, I'm sure McCain picked Palin for her reform record as well as being representative of a different kind of woman than that usually held up by the Democrats. It also shows without question his solidarity with the Christian right, his lack of sexist bias, and that he means business about change. The choice of a 44-yr old with less than 2 yrs as governor also throws into relief the inexperience of the Democrats' own candidate, and they should be unable to say anything about it without thinking about their own. And he will be the president not the VP. But McCain maintains, and I think correctly, that she has much more experience than Obama, especially as an executive. We only think differently, I'm afraid, because we have inappropriately elevated him in our minds - privileged I guess the politically correct would say. We have had many candidates in the past with even less experience, like Jesse Jackson, Pat Buchanan and Pat Robertson, who no one made a big fuss about. Lincoln had no more, as Obama's ppl have pointed out. A couple more years as governor would put her right up with the majority of candidates. In any case were John to keel over, there's not only the cabinet, but a new VP to select. So I'm afraid I think much of this talk about her inexperience is sexist. However, it also says something about the sad state of our politics, and why Americans stay away from the polls in droves, that you have actors, body-builders, wrestlers, football players, preachers, etc., running for high office.

Ralph Wyman  09/01/2008 11:45 PM Report

I cannot fathom that Cokie Roberts and Walter Isaacson think that New Orleans is nearly fully recovered from Katrina!

OK, there's more restaurants (in the Quarter, I imagine Walter means). And Tulane is back and strong.

But what about the lower 9th Ward? And how many of the black-owned businesses outside the quarter are back?

175,000 people not having moved back is a pretty clear indication that New Orleans rebuilding is far from done.

White New orleans is back. Cokie and Walter need to spend more time in Greater New Orleans to understand the story for Black New Orleans.

DL  09/01/2008 11:30 PM Report

Hurricane Gustave is this convention's September 11th, as they exploit national disaster for their own political gain. Even thoough you can't compare the two.