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04/18/2008
Jon Meacham, Monsignor Lorenzo Albacete, Scott Appleby, George Weigel
A discussion about the Pope's visit to the United States
A discussion about Pope Benedict's visit to the United States with Jon Meaham Editor-In-Chief of Newsweek, George Weigel, Senior Fellow of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, Scott Appleby and Monsignor Lorenzo Albacete. Benedict will travel to Washington and New York from April 15-20, speak at the United Nations on April 18, 2008 and visit ground zero on the final day of his trip.
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Albacete adulation flies in the face of hierarchal preservation demonstrated by the church in not crucifying the culpable cardinals and bishops such as Law, Mahoney et al to show their sincerity in being truly ashamed of the church's sexual abuse scandals.
Great program, Charlie. Lachaim! Albacete is such inspiring and funny that makes the Christian and Catholic approach more attractive than ever. Personally some comments I read here on the forum are just sheer regurgitation of media's false allegation on Benedict XVI. It is clear that the secular views of people and press attempt to blind divert from the essence of Christ. An alive Person here and now waiting for our yes to Him. Lively Mercy donated to us on a daily basis no matter what we do. Please do invite Albacete not only for Pope's elections or catastrophe such as 9/11. Thank you for such an open minded set and participants. Too bad the entire show was not uploaded online.
I was enjoying the taped version of the conversation of the Pope's visit when the sound stopped about half way through. Is it possible to hear the remainder of the program?
The irreverent comments in this thread are sacrilegious, distasteful and disgusting. The Cardinals and Bishops have attained a saintly and reverence about them that all should strive to attain. A wonderful saintliness unattainable in any other world religion. Please give this man his due. The Church and its structure is inviolate and should be emulated the world over. Plesae "love your priests." Pedaphilia is not to be overstressed.
As long as he is sequestering Cardinal Law in the Vatican his alleged "pedophilia-shame" is a large serving of puerile-papist-pabulum.
Since the program did not start at the usual time, I missed most of the discussion. That said, I was under the impression that the Pope was here to speak about doctrines. As a "Cafeteria Catholic" I was totally impressed with his warmth and kindness. I found myself following all the events on TV and for the first time, wishing I was there. I hope that this visit will teach priests to rethink their homilies since the ones I have heard recently made me feel so unwelcome because of my political beliefs. The last one I heard told the parishioners to think Republican. I want to go back to the Church, but I also want to feel welcomed. The Post went off on Rudy for receiving communion, and that didn't make sense to me.
make that Lorenzo Albacete...
- I love Lorenzi Albacete - I cant wait until th clip is posted. He has been on in the past and is so wonderful! I would have watched had I known he was part of the group.
I tuned in to see what I had hoped would be at least some critical view of Ratzinger and the challenges to rational, secular, liberal democracy that he and his international organization represents. Only the non-Catholic Jon Meacham offered any commentary of interest, and only he seemed to have any sense of the significance, historically and culturally, of the progress through the domain of the flock of such a figure as Ratzinger. However, mostly the segment of the show was simply a series of vapid statements. I do love Charlie Rose, so I imagine that he doesn't always want to be a critic, but the appearance of such a man as Ratzinger and his entertainment by the US President in the White House (I love Mrs. Bush violating papal protocol in her soft way, a way any American should, it seems to me, if put in the impossible position Mrs. Bush was put into) seems worthy of public and tribune-like criticism, which is what I was hoping would be provided, at least in some small measure, by my Charlie Rose.
I looked forward to hearing the Charlie Rose show and his guests on the Pope's visit. I was disappointed that 50% of the show had technical difficulties in audio. Was this intentional? Did someone create their own form of censureship? How may I get a full audio of the program? I understand the Catholic viewpoint and was hoping to hear Charlie's guests voice theirs. I will continue to be a great fan and promoter of the Charlie Rose show in spite of this disappointment.
His alleged pedophilia shame is hollow as long as the offending Bishops/Cardinals, e.g., Mahoney of LA et al continue without demotion and/or being defrocked. Even excommunication as the damage to the victims is that excoriating. Dante awaits.
With Pope Benedict's visit to the United States well under way, one is reminded daily of the woes which have befallen the American Church. Indeed, His Holiness does have his work cut out for him here--and everywhere else. NEW PARAGRAPH But why so sorry a state of affairs? Since 20/20 hindsight is perfect, I would suggest the present malaise of Catholicism is attributable, in some good measure, to the liturgical changes made after the Second Vatican Council. NEW PARAGRAPH The universal Church would have been better served had the Council left the 1962 Missal (the latest revision of the traditional Missal) in place, allowing, though, optional celebrations in vernacular languages. Translations would need to have been correct. NEW PARAGRAPH More radical liturgical changes should have been avoided. These were introduced by the Council either to appease Protestants or to dumb down the rites for the "benefit" of the marginally educated and aesthetically challenged. NEW PARAGRAPH Gratuitous novelty in the celebration of Mass could well have waited, if not in saecula saeculorum, at least until a later saeculum.
If Il Papa expects to make the confessionals run on time here, it seems to me that he has quite a lot more work to do. I am not sure I would call it evangelizing. It seems to me that the Church is about as evangelical as it can be already. How else do you explain the sycophancy we saw demonstrated everywhere this week? What else is the ultimate result of irrational exhuberance? Neither an Arminian nor an antinomian be to paraphrase Shakespeare. I think though that if the man wants to impress ppl with his great morality, he ought to at least take off his shoes.
if we could only get the pope to drive the pope-mobile into a time machine that sends him back to 1400 or so. it is a win win scenario. he will be happier in a pre scientific era...and we will have slightly less superstitious dogma. IT IS A WIN WIN! also...he helped cover up the whole child rape thing....so....thumbs down on that one, dude. I think there was some nazi background as well but will have to do a bit more research on that front.