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08/14/2007
Esther Dyson
A discussion about emerging technologies with Esther Dyson
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A discussion about emerging technologies with Esther Dyson of EDventure.
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it is interesting that the discussions about genes and the way they could be analyzed reminded me some of the discussions/research topics within advanced diagnostic groups at automotive companies: lots of signals come out of the car, combination of which ones will cause the fault and when, and also you need to consider other factors, such as the weather and driving conditions... fascinating!
Charlie, At the end of your interview with Esther Dyson - Thank you for asking that particular question to Ms. Dyson - Are our best years behind us? (meaning the United States as a country) She stopped to think for a second, then she answered: "Yes." .
Charlie, Thank you for asking that question to Ms. Dyson - Are our best years behind us? (meaning the United States as a country) She stopped to think for a second, then she answered: "Yes." .
Will somebody please decode Esther Dyson's body language because she sure looks like a palm reader I saw last week.
To Aaron: There may have been a question mark at the end of Charlie's blurt...but anyone would recognize that is was a sly comment. The tone of his voice had such glee, it was as if his inner "Friedman" was let out to play. Your description about Dyson is correct though. She'd be the first to praise the private sector, and ignore the crucial public sector. But her statement should make people take notice. The private sector is not the innovator. It refuses to invest the VAST amount of money that's needed to create things like "the computer" and "the internet". The public bears the cost. Our tax-dollars created the internet and the computer. Through STATE defense department research...and STATE partnerships with universities. Once the hard work is done, corrupt governmnets hand over OUR treasure to the private sector. This is a fleecing of Americans. And the private sector owes us more than slick commercials and limited access. They owe us universal access, that makes up for all the funding WE put in through our taxes.
The Dyson interview was about 35 minutes of my life I wish I could get back (I couldn't handle anymore and shut it off). I think she is past her prime regarding net technology, basically saying nothing new that almost anyone with a passing understanding of the net doesn't know. Anyone who thinks a Paypal donation button is going to have a significant impact on funding (even a PBS) TV show is really missing something. Get Robert Cringely on the show if you want to know what's really going on in technology and the web.
Response To Paul Escobar: To me, Charlie clearly asked a question: ~would the internet have been better if commercial guys showed up sooner and you'll see Esther answers him directly: "yes, well"~ the private sector doesn't invest that much money and Esther originally brought up the idea that the internet really started to happen when the private sector got involved, not Charlie. So it's 26 mintues in the program, watch it and make up your own mind.
Charlie, your website will be an effective tool to raise funds for your program. You have so many loyal fans. Your show is so good because of your hard work, and you constantly try to make it better, and of course your capable staff you employed. Before you have this website, if I missed any of your show, there was no way to catch up. Now I don't have to worry about it. I just go to your site and watch the video. Go for it! Good luck!
Did anyone catch Charlie Rose blubbering that the internet should have been privatized...before it was even invented? That blurt says alot about Charlie Rose. It also explains why Thomas Friedman is on the show every week. While Joseph Stiglitz, Ha-Joon Chang, and Noam Chomsky rarely appear. The guest (Dyson) explained to Charlie why that couldn't have been so. The private sector is not an innovator. The public sector is. The dynamic public sector bears all the risks. It puts in the dedication and funding that creates things like the computers and the internet. Then corrupt governments hand it over to the private sector. A private sector that limits access in order to gain maximum profit...not universal access. A good interview about this public sector role in the American economy: http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/19980506.htm
Geez, Dyson spit it out already!! Charlie, please let her finish talking.
Please have her on more frequently. I enjoyed her so.
just a tough "cookie" reminder: Dick Cheney does not have email. (and we know it ain't cuz he is a fossil guzzling dinosaur) Martha Stewart became a felon -in part- because she mea culpa'd herself when her email log was reviewed and the guilty email she tried to alter was revealed. As Esther said, if the very government Dick Cheney is working within decide they "need" some internet captured info, Google or whomever holds it has to pour it over. Technology is it's own risk and reward. Ms. Dyson, if you are reading these posts I think eventful.com could be more visually inviting.
What's with all the posturing? Personally, I didn't think she was so hot in the beginning. Then she started to Sound more sagacious towards the end. More often than not I thought "spit it out!" but then Charlie actually said it. A comely lass with a good head on her, nonetheless.It was obvious she is currently only concentrating on current internet technologies rather than Biology or Cosmology. In passing she mentioned she was taking up space...
Great interview with lots of practical observations on the future of internet technology. Charlie Rose can put a paypal donation button on his site, but I wouldnt count on it for generating any siginificant revenue. I have a few on sites I run, and I am lucky if I get 10% what I expect to get! People nowadays want everything for free. I think the world is evolving into global sharing, rather than global trading.
Esther is brilliant on the wrong end of the stick that other gurus or broadcast media get on privacy, and why its increasingly likely that India will be the salvation of the internet, open education and above zero sum quality service business entrepreneurship people the world over need.
I too was surprised to hear you are not funded in part by PBS or WNET. I recently moved from NYC and was wondering who to support... the local PBS, or WNET since your program is the principal thing I watch on public television. Charlie, I'd love to be able to support you directly. Especially given this mighty website you maintain for us all. Let us know how, and thank you for your journalism!
The doyenne of the future continues to be one of the most fascinating minds to listen to. Dyson has a remarkable way of illuminating issues of our time e.g. privitazation and access; why some companies succeed and others don't. ideas about education and learning...she always leaves me thinking better... bravo charlie rose.
As long as we only value $, education , excuse me, real learning will always be incidental. I work with a number of graduate students from India at an engineering college. I won't argue that they are interested in getting a high paying job, particularly in the USA. But what always strikes me is not only their respect for their professors and learning institution but more importantly their insistence or stress upon the importance of learning for the sake of knowledge, not just for grades or a requirement on their resume. What I really want to make note of, is that I never realized that you function totally independently financially. I know you and others make mention during the Fund Drives but I had assumed that WNET shouldered the major portion of support and each program/programmer helped add to the station/their program. I'm a bit relieved also. I am saddened that Tavis has WAL-MART as a supporter. Necessity vs. principles. I'm glad to see and know that WAL-MART is not necessarily a supporter of all programs on WNET. Seems as if Esther gave you good advice and if you get your web fund drive going you'll be set $. I just think you need to clearly communicate the reason/financial independence issue. And then share the secrets of your $ success with Tavis so that he can free himself of unsavory benefactors.
was riveted and challenged. While I agree there are altruistic uses of webspace, the underlying paranoia(justifiable from past and current examples)rearing its nose from "monitoring" victims still demands a tighter protection for the individual-regardless of the societal conversion to a onemind presence in espace
what incentive does anyone have to pursue science? respecting education assumes we value the outcome of the educational process; having a well educated burger flipper not only disrespects the value of education but tends toward a future where the service sector accounts for enough of a nations economic activity that it continually blocks a budding scientist's view of the stars -- the fault, dear brutus, ...
dear mr. rose -- paypal, eventful, youtube, facebook, linkedin, craigslist, and general google seo are all ways to begin raising money for your organization.
respect for education is long over due. we can not educate sicentists to compete with outsourcing if our intelligent population is not educated. "respect education", not "respect persons educated". we must acknowledge that our best years as of present are behind (with respect to what Ms. Dyson had said) us and that Americans must work to get ahead for the future to be our best years.
educate as many scientist as you like; respect them all you like; give them presence all you like; if companies continue to outsource scientific talent for cheaper salaries overseas both our products and our future will be exported. respect for our science is proportional to the dollars spent on our scientists.
bad "pr" is not the overriding concern as google collects our private data or cookies are given to our browsers -- no matter how benign these technologies are described and dismissed there is some amount of privacy concerns beyond simply bad press. the concerns are what data is being exchanged, who has the data, who is sharing the data, who has access to the data, and for how long.