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The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How The War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals
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07/12/2007
Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Brent Scowcroft
An hour with Zbigniew Brzezinski, Brent Scowcroft & Henry Kissinger
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A rebroadcast of a discussion about foreign policy with former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft & former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
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Zbig supports Barack Obama.
brilliant men, they should be listened to instead of the fools we have to listen to.
I very liked Mr Brzezinski comments. I believe that he got the right track: negotiation and diplomacy instead of unilateral bigotry of Bush administration. We need more people like him.
I feel the Arab people in general, are basically a capable people; able, at least potentially, to support a representative form of government, similar to our own. But they need to unify around a concept or spirit greater than their own individual differences. As Iraq moves toward a unifying concept/spirit, they must simultaneously purge their population of their more violently anti-social elements; those who would seek to violently oppose such unification. The US, in my opinion, has shown adequate restraint in the Iraq war, in the fact that the Bush administration has not resorted (as some have quietly suggested) to a limited nuclear strike, that could indiscriminantly wipe out hundreds of thousands of lives at a time. Instead our soldiers (for the most part) have conducted themselves to find and target on the opposing side "those eager to do battle" as Arjuna related to Krishna on the ancient Indian battlefield, as he sought to pick out who to target with his drawn bow. HenryK has pointed out in the past, the 30 years war between Protestants and Catholics in the 16 century, that eventually gave way to the full bloom of the Renaisance, and the full emergence from the depths of the dark ages for Europe. He has also pointed out (most recently in his March 2001 book) his belief that the Arab region is at a similar point today. The potential dividends to planetary civilization, coming from a more representative form of government mushrooming in the middle east, are immeasurable. As long as President Bush maintains this vision for the middle east, with Iraq as its center, I will probably support him. As I remember the ancient Book of Proverbs saying, "A man makes plans in his heart, but his steps are of the Lord". Maybe another way of saying it is "The Universal Father may not have his way with the individual mortal, but in the conduct and destiny of a planet, his will prevails". I believe the unseen planetary rulers and administrators have far reaching plans for this planet, as they seek for its inhabitants to join the greater system of planets in the possibly not so distant future. For those of us who dare to catch even a glimpse of these supermortal plans, I would not be quick to discount. The Master who briefly walked the earth 2000 years ago said "He who would save his life will lose it; but he who would lose his life for the sake of this gospel, will surely save it, and inherit life everlasting.
I agree with John and Richard's comments. If you really want to grab audience bring them back, but this time bring along Noan Chomsky anf Howard Zin.
Please bow down to your new north american union,new world order,one world global government,nazi,communistic,freemasonic,bohemian grove,skull & bones,bilderberg,CFR, trilateral commission,club of rome,fascists corporate Godless dictators. "They are of their father the devil" a "brood of vipers" who come to devour the whole earth.
This was a great session no doubt. Zbignew B. seemed to be the one voicing a painful truth about ending up where we are due to lies and pure lies. In fact we created a new Al Quaida base in Irak where one never existed instead of focusing on Afghanistan after 911. One should hold policy makers like Paul Wolfowitz, Scooter Libby & al accountable for this mess and lives & billions lost. Kissinger clearly have lot to answer no doubt instead of play the game "where do we go from here" rather than saying:" We made a terrible mistake, we should learn from history!" Zibignew & Brent clearly came out more realistic and wiser. Thanks Charlie for a good program.
While I was alive when each of these 3 were serving their respective presidents, I totally missed the "murder" and other terrible things these guys are supposed to have done. How about doing a show with Ron Melton and/or some of the others who accuse these 3 of murder and everything else. I'd like to see the "murder" case. I'm trying to be open minded. I always thought Kissinger was the Colin Powell of the Nixon administration - ie. the only one who wasn't a crook. Also, another good idea for a show would be to have someone from LEAP. LEAP is Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. So many of today's problems are intertwined and the War on Drugs winds through many of them - Columbia, Afghanistan, health care, immigration and so on.
Zbigniew Brzezinski's response to your last question regarding the new president's most important message to the world was indistinguishable from the communistic dogma of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. His comments made me thank God that this nation survived the administration of Jimmy Carter, and pray that we would never again be subjected to this man's influence.
I just caught your "An hour with Zbigniew Brzezinski, Brent Scowcroft & Henry Kissinger." Dumb people! I guess you were showing us who was steering the country these past couple decades right into the brick wall. They couldn't understand the world when they worked for the government, and all three haven't lost their distorted view of the world in their old age. I can only hope that when they try to advise politicians today, that the door gets slammed in their face.
Interesting, intelligent men who see and discuss the world as it is not through the rose colored glasses of the "peaceniks."
Instead of giving air time exclusively to apologists for the military-industrial complex --those who have led criminal US interventions bullying defenseless peoples all over the world -- why don't you have a program with some genuine peace activists who tell the dirty truth about US foreign policy? Why should Americans be brainwashed into believing that their government "fights for freedom & democracy," when the opposite is actually the case?
Dear Charlie: You really threw them a lot of softball questions that allowed them to avoid being exposed as zionist scum and dual citizens and israel firsters. Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski are the main architects of the North American Union and part of the dual-citizen communist regime that is seeking to dissolve the sovereignty of the United States. They are the devil's pawn. Anytime Kissinger shows up you know 10's or 100's of thousands of non-jews are going to die somewhere. Since he is not receiving justice on Earth we can only hope that he will soon be receiving it in hell.
Dear Charlie - The prism of these men, the prism of these men created through their principle interaction with a particular history naturally frames their prism therein. These men were actors and makers of history and must be considered, to be sure, wise men. Wise men because their insight is sincerely devoid of present tense complexity. Their experiences no longer provide useful insight going forward. Wise for their comforting ignorance and innocent temperance. Phil Urso Russo
The discussion of foreign policy left me with feeling that we best lead by example, that we cannot force our way, that the US government has contributed to problems in the world, that we should learn from this, that our government tends to make mistakes, that folks are ready to solve their own problems. This seems to be what Ron Paul has been talking about. Also, at the end were comments that Americans need to be ready to make sacrifices. It was not clear what this was about. The huge debt? Other financial problems? The stolen social security? Global competition? We need a president who understands these.
Just watched a re-play of your 6/15 show w/Kiss/zib/scow - Great comments. I felt that going to you lately was either to fluffy. That was great and your questions were great --open, let them talk.no bias. Do more of that. Some very, very insightful comments. One thinks why doesn,t a pres put. those three in his/her kitchen cabinet. And i'm a GOP. You have always been opjective. Would love to hear a follow up; A. to the areas you closed with; b. to the points that they raised. c. how to keep politics out of foreign affairs. James a. Harrington
charlie...these three scare me to death...and death others to death. -A