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The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How The War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals
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I'm really nonplussed by many of the comments on this particular page. William Buckley is a marvelous conversationalist..I can't believe someone felt the need to justify his pauses. I would much rather listen to Buckley pontificate endlessly, and I am a Democrat, than I would many of the fast-talking bores that are usually featured on all media outlets.
Don Wehn, this is not the place to vent your frustration. Please have some respect.
I agree with those who say you interupt too often when your guest is saying something important. Some claim that this is due to your ignorance. If this is the case perhaps a producer whispering in your ear to shut up would help you. At least you let Buckley talk about death, although hardly enough considering the importance of the subject
The ever-common meme that Catholic Christianity is incompatible with the political philosophy of conservatism is often spread by people who are ignorant of both. These are commonly the same people who have an animus towards Christianity as it holds essential tenets that oppose liberal public policy, but support the aspects of any religion that support their political agenda. William F. Buckley was one of the most important figures in American political history regardless if you disagree with his political philosophy.
buckley once said in his younger and even more arrogant days,that president eisenhower sucked the air out of a room....at least ike had a real impact on the world as a general and president...bill has been sucking forever and will simply disappear--having no lasting impact...."the act" of the slightly rumpled appearance,the sneering grin delighting in some self confirming point scored as if still a frosh at a yale debate...truman capote without a brilliant book...too bad vidal never took him out in the famous encounter,when the act slipped and the true ass was glimpsed. ....the naoime klien interview was in stark contrast to the jack-of-all trades master of none buckley "act".....i don't know if anyone reads this or not,sort of like a buckley novel.
Re: "health is not free" On camera, Buckley never is (or was) much interested in straightforward engagement of a policy issue on it's own merits. His old Firing Line habit was to pull an impertinent analogy out of his hat in order to protect anything that elite conservatism deemed sacred,i.e Capitalism, capital gains, social repair by private philanthropy, Catholicism, military strength. He's appears ever faithful to his precious principles but helpless over the war, the deficit, US trade imbalance-- employment, trade and foreign policy gone sour for the U.S. working poor.
Your interview with Naomi Klein should be required listening for all Americans. An incredible insight of truth about the Corporate/Government entanglemnt.
I, for one, did not mind Charlie's interruptions. Mr. Buckley always needed someone to finish his sentences; he's a better writer than speaker. Buckley's shows were the torture of waiting for him to articulate - always with a pencil, but this time only a tablet, no clipboard. I take the pencil and tablet as indication that he would rather be writing than talking. What a wonderful contrast between Buckley and Klein. Buckley undoubtedly was inculcated at an early age in catechism class - in christian manichaeanism. To Buckley, every geometric shape must have only two sides. Thus, we are christians against muslims - a concept that he could not fully develop. Claims of the "christian" foundation of the US are bogus. The country was founded on the colonial unwillingness to help pay off the debt from the 7-Years War against France and the colonists'desire to seize the lands of native Americans. These land rights were protected by treaties in tribal alliances with Britain formed during the war with France. An example: George Washington had a claim to 30,000 acres in Western Pennsylvania that was invalid under British law. Our struggle today is not religious; it is to maintain American hegemony. Religion is simply a tool for controlling unthinking people. His use of the term "health" for "health care", as in "health is not free", is some new manipulation of the language, perhaps from Frank Luntz, to be compared with "death tax", "islamofascism" and other purposefull corruptions. I'll follow that with interest.
As usual, Buckley was interesting. His connection with oil and the Christian way of life presented a new take on what we normally consider the "demonic persuit of oil." That one was out of left field for me, but it was quite interesting (I'm not sure if it is just a rationalization, or a flash of brilliance!) Thanks for the show, Charlie.
Mr. Rose, Please, please, READ something, like the Norton American Literature so that you can learn one or 2 things about the MAJOR role that Christianity played in the foundation of our country. Your bias/ignorance of Christianity was visible for ALL to see. At least, shut up. DO NOT interrupt on issues that you have NO CLUE about. Let the PROS speak! Asnath Colson